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Hyundai Sonata Navigation System
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The service person told me that they are issuing a TSB for the system due to some problems. He said some issues had to do with the display, the warning screen not appearing, and some other issues.
My issue is that the keyboard will not stay in QWERTY mode and keeps reverting to ABC mode even though Setup shows the QWERTY option selected. Also, whenever I use the track up/down button on the Nav or steering wheel control to change a song on my iPod, the Random selection turns off.
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Just chiming in...
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As for the fixes, well they kinda worked. The Random function now stays on when selecting another song via the steering wheel control or the track up/down button on the Nav unit. It will not stay on if you switch to another mode (AM/FM/XM) except for the Map function. It also will not remember that you had Random selected when you turn off the car and then turn it back on. If you select Random, that option should never turn off unless you specifically turn it off or you disconnect the iPod.
Also, the QWERTY keyboard issue is still not resolved. If I set my keyboard to QWERTY as opposed to Alphabet, it works fine until I turn off the car. When I turn the car back on, the Main Settings screen shows that I have QWERTY selected, but if I go to a screen that requires text entry, the keyboard is displayed in Alphabet mode. I need to go back to Setup, click on QWERTY again and then select done for the QWERTY keyboard to work. Can someone else confirm this on their Nav Unit? If not, I guess there's something wrong with mine then.
I have also been having a problem with my iPod not shutting off when the car is turned off. It runs down the battery completely then and when I turn on the car it then always starts with the first song on my iPod. Has anyone else had this issue?
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The mapping software for the Sonata Navigation System is by M&SOFT (888-757-0010). There will not be an update till sometime in January and it will run around $200, but there should be a $100 rebate.
The software for the Navigation System is done by Hyundai Autonet America (877-648-7577). I spoke with Charles who stated that they are aware of the keyboard issue and that it should probably be in the next update, although it is present in releases for new models. He also stated that the Random functionality is working as designed in that whenever you pick a new function or turn on/off the car, the Random selection needs to be reselected.
He stated that he was going to look into the iPod shutdown issue to make sure they do not need to update something in their software.
On a side note, he did mention to me that future versions of the software will have traffic and bluetooth built-in. He stated that it will most likely be installed in new model releases, but could not rule out one way or the other if the update would be available to 2009 Sonata users.
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The upgrade fixed the Nav System. The keyboard will stay in QWERTY mode now even when the car is turned off.
The random in iPod and USB works better and stays on now when I go to the map function, but not if I switch to another mode or turn the car off.
The TSB Subject is “NAVIGATION REPROGRAMMING – CAMPAIGN T59” with this description: “Select 2009 Sonata Vehicles are equipped with in-car navigation as part of the audio system. Some navigation systems may experience lock up while in map display mode or the navigation icons may be incomplete/missing from the display screen. This bulletin describes the procedure to reprogram the navigation software to repair these conditions.” Vehicles affected: 2009 Sonata vehicles produced from start of production to August 11, 2008.
And yes, A DVD is used in the procedure.
The update also fixed the Random issue for me. According to the software developer, the Random function is not supposed to stay on when turning off the car or switching modes (except for the Map). He compared it to being similar to the Random function on a CD player. When turning a CD player off and on you need to turn the Random function back on.
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Check your software version (Setup --> Main). If you do not have v_A3_3, then go into your dealer and request the Navigation System Update.
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1) When using the iPod and Random is turned on, if you use the Tune dial to find a new song and then push on the dial to select the song, the Random function turns off. It does not turn off if you use the Seek Up/Down buttons of the Up/Down steering wheel control buttons.
2) When a list in the Addressbook, if you have selected to sort via Alphabet instead of Date and you turn the car off and then back on, the highlight reverts to being on Date even though the list is sorted alphabetically. Also, I have had it where it is sorted alphabetically and I've added a new item to the list. The new item is then added to the bottom of the list. I needed to reselect Alphabet to have the new item sorted correctly.
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I like it a lot. I probably would have found something wrong with any Nav system installed in any car purchased, so don't take my complaints as gospel. Overall, the system works and is easy to use.
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The nav screen can be impossible to read when the sun hits the screen which is also highly annoying, but that's not a problem with the nav, more the positioning of the nav. Also keep in mind this system doesn't have an internal hard drive for storing music or anything like that which is probably why the system is so cheap compared to other units.
One thing I LOVE about the system is you can use it with the car in motion, which is great if you have a passenger with you who can program in an address without having to pull over and stop. Or you can just use the voice operation to speak an address, but I haven't tried that yet.
When they called to say it was in they said your XM radio is in. I reminded them the problem was the nav/GPS; so I asked it if was all one unit. I was told "the tech knows what he needs to replace" I asked if this is one unit will it screw up my XM radio account? "Shouldn't" I was told.
My question is for anyone who is familiar with the nav systems on these cars, is the nav /GPS and radio all in one unit? Or is the GPS a separate module, or what? Based upon the lack of real answers I'm getting from the dealer, I'm tempted to take the car to one of the shops around town that install the after market radios, GPS systems, etc, for a look-see but would rather fore-go the expense of that if possible.
Any ideas or help is appreciated. I'm scheduled to take the car in next Monday to to the dealer. But do I really want them tearing into the dash to do what they may not have to? I suspect that this dealer's 'tech' may not be real knowledgeable about this issue. Hopefully I'm wrong, but I can't believe (although not impossible) that the GPS is defective on a brand new unit.
The dealer also said they had doen the recent firmware/software? upgrade as well. It had no affect on the GPS however.
I am a little curious though because XM just called me to try to sign me up for their service. Part of the pitch was how they just merged with Sirius. From what I've read, in order for subscribers to receive stations from both XM and Sirius satellites they will need a new tuner. So, since the Sonata has an XM specific tuner in it, how would I be able to get Sirius stations?
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I will also say its by far the fastest one i have ever used.
My only complaint is the voice command. Best I can tell the microphone is not working. It does not respond to at all. It just keeps telling me that I can say help at any time.
I am trying to avoid a trip to the dealer. Anyone have any thoughts?
Thanks!
I have had the update done on my 2009 Sonata and my system reports version A3_3. In reference to the fix in the software for the random function...I have a USB thumb drive that I play MP3s from and when I have random on and use the steering wheel to try to go to the next random song, random still goes off and it goes to the next song in the current folder. Is this how it is working for others here? It appears that the random function still is not working on my unit...at least not in USB mode. Can anyone else test to see if this is true? Thanks!
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