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2010 Mazda3

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  • jeffyscottjeffyscott Posts: 3,855
    Cars are supposed to crumple "like an accordian". They absorb the crash energy so that the occupants do not have to. The increased stiffness is not, I think, related to crumpling of body parts, instead it is related to the ride and handling.
  • autonomousautonomous Posts: 1,769
    We are holding out for a bit less price difference.

    Good idea. About a year and a half ago Mazda introduced the 2008, followed 6 months later by the 2008.5 and then again about 6 months later by the 2009 and now about 6 months later we see the 2010 model. Each time there is a new iteration, the previous model has to be moved off the lot quickly, which translates into more deal making. Good luck.
  • tgassetttgassett Posts: 20
    Well, I finally made a commitment on Thursday and brought home my 2010 M3 S Sport automatic today in Crystal White Pearl Mica. I absolutely love the car. I was the first one to buy from my local dealership. If mazda can't sell this car they need to close up shop. I drove an 09 in December trying to decide if I wanted to wait or not. I like the 09 but like a previous post said it is like comparing coach to first class. Boy am I ever glad I waited. It is everything that I was looking for. I have been a Honda guy for years but Honda doesn't really make anything to compare with this car unless you want to talk Civic Si. And it doesn't come in automatic and has very little torque. Different strokes for different folks. You certainly cannot compare this car to the regular Civic or really anything else in the compact class for that matter. If your a doubter, go drive one. I bet you will be impressed.
    Everyone keeps complaining about the gas mileage and says Mazda should make a hybrid. Are you crazy? That is not what this car is about. If you like the car but want better mileage get the i version as it is comparable to the Civic in mileage. The S version mpg is exactly the same as the Civic Si. How can you complain? If you want a hybrid go buy one.
  • bvdj84bvdj84 Posts: 1,703
    The pearl white is beautiful!!! I am so glad you got what you wanted.

    But, I am wondering why they chose to make the navigation screen so small?
    It is almost a joke to even have it in the car. Its a little, tiny screen..lol.
  • marsdogmarsdog Posts: 9
    I believe the reason for the small Nav screen is to make it more accessible to everyone. If you look around, most OME Navs are $1500-$2000, while portable units (of similar size to the Mazda3's) are a fraction of those. I think this nav may start a trend to more affordable, smaller units designed to compete with portable units, with all the convenience of a built in unit.
  • jeffyscottjeffyscott Posts: 3,855
    I think what Suzuki did with the SX4 makes the most sense, just put an actual portable unit in, but with a built holder for it. I'd likely not pay for a navigation system, in any case, but I'd at least consider it if it were ~$500 and could be taken out and used on non-driving trips. $1500-2000 for a unit that is permanently installed will never be something of interest to me.
  • marsdogmarsdog Posts: 9
    I know what you're saying but I've been close to buying a portable unit a couple times, but one of the reasons I hold back is it seems like a hassle to remove and hide the unit each time I stop. Personally, I love this built in unit and the fact that it doubles as all my driving info when I don't need the nav... something a portable cannot do. I'd never pay the huge price tag as you mentioned, but since I planned on buying all the gadgets anyway, the cost for the package makes sense for me at least.
  • bvdj84bvdj84 Posts: 1,703
    You make a good point. For the money, you get a very nice car. I really wouldn't need a navi unit, I use my iphone. Though, I am try to find a suction cup for it.

    Compared to the Acura TSX, the screen in the mazda is very small. I guess the location of the screen works okay, because you could be driving and glancing at the screen to find a location.
  • autonomousautonomous Posts: 1,769
    Everyone keeps complaining about the gas mileage and says Mazda should make a hybrid.

    Q: Why do you think "everyone keeps complaining about the gas mileage"?
    A: Because we all fear that the days of cheap gas are numbered. Once OPEC returns to $4 gas, we'll all be singing the praises of fuel efficiency again.
  • tgassetttgassett Posts: 20
    A: Because we all fear that the days of cheap gas are numbered. Once OPEC returns to $4 gas, we'll all be singing the praises of fuel efficiency again.

    I am all for fuel efficient vehicles. That was a very important factor for me as I was making my buying decision as my friends pushed me toward a 17-18 city mpg v-6 car. What I am saying is that everyone wants the power, sport, handling, and solid feel, you get with a bigger engine and more solid vehicle like the Mazda 3. But on the same hand they also want 30 mpg city and 40 mpg hwy. That combo just really doesn't exist. Let me clarify that, it does not exist in this price range. Sure if you want to drop TDI money on a Volkswagen or similar vehicle you can sort of have your cake and eat it too but I didn't want to spend over approx $20k. For what I paid I can buy a lot of $4 fuel. I am very satisifed with my purchase in all facets. I am not saying that just because I have a big grin on my face.
  • joem5joem5 Posts: 201
    My Mazda 3 I New Value 08 is a nice car but, I want a hatch. The problem is I only have 4701 miles on it and it books for $15475.
    So for the first time in 6 years I went over to a V Dub dealer. I looked at a Rabbit S auto, power seats. heated seats, mirrors and sunroof.The price $19325.00
    What scared me was 170 HP and low MPG. Then I looked at the GTI loaded $23.200. Mazda prices can't compare to VW's I dont think.(no salesman came out they were a watching TV. I was wondering if my Type S is getting 31 highway and is the best HB I ever owned ,where have all the Hatches gone.If the GTI is geared like my Type S I bet I could get decent milage and more standard bells and whistles than Mazda and at a way better price.

    Mazda won't deal at all.Am I crazy but I thought car dealers were in rough shape sales wise. Mazda said , if you don't take the gas grille we will take $500.00 of the GT HB I was interested in.
    Lastly, I went over to Saturn, they have a HB called Astra 3dr. or 5 door and a salesman came out.They both come with heated seats ,lumbar support, but you can only get moonroof on 5 door. Actually the car is an Opel.Sharp cars for $20K,but 1.8 liter engines. handles like a sports car though.
    Well, I'am waiting untill September untll Mazda gets off it's high horse.Also, in 2010 I hope Ford is smart enough to bring the HB Fiesta over.
    Lastly, I think Ford and especially Acura goofed dropping its hatches :confuse: .
  • joem5joem5 Posts: 201
    Right now gas here is $1.99 and Diesel is $2.54.
    Yup, I think gas is giong up near $3. ,or $ 4.00 again . Then Diesel will be $5.50 or better. Then would you want a TDI? I don't think so.
    However, this being ST. Paddy's Day I will Spend $9.00 for a rack of Guiness. :shades:
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    However, this being ST. Paddy's Day I will Spend $9.00 for a rack of Guiness.

    Sounds good to me. Cheers!!
  • autonomousautonomous Posts: 1,769
    That combo just really doesn't exist ... in this price range.
    Hmmm... As we all know car manufacturers choose different vehicles for different markets. In Canada Mazda has introduced the Mazda3 GX 2.0L engine as a fuel efficient cheaper alternative to the 2.3L and 2.5L versions. In the UK and elsewhere, there are the Mazda2 and the Mazda3 diesel; both of which are more fuel efficient while being affordable and zoom-zoom capable. Meanwhile, competitors like Honda are providing options like the Civic hybrid as cheaper alternatives to the Prius for our marketplace.

    My sense is that not enough of dealers are hearing that fuel efficiency is a key driver in our decision making. Consider the last time you've seen an ad for a car praising its lightness and consequently its fuel efficiency.

    Finally, a little disclosure: my 2002 Mazda Protege5 automatic is a treat to drive and averages 25 mpg overall. The P5 became the Mazda3 S in 2004. In the latest (April 2009) Consumer Reports, the Mazda3 S Grand Touring Hatchback was rated at 25 mpg; CR notes "Highs: Handling, powertrain, braking, reliability, standard ESC; Lows: Road noise, instrument contrast, unimpressive fuel economy".
  • dc_davedc_dave Posts: 51
    Q: Why do you think "everyone keeps complaining about the gas mileage"?
    A: Because we all fear that the days of cheap gas are numbered. Once OPEC returns to $4 gas, we'll all be singing the praises of fuel efficiency again.


    Do you know what the 2010 Chevy Camaro V6 and the 2010 Mazda3 2.5 have in common? They have the same HWY EPA fuel economy numbers, both get 29 MPG. Of course, the Camaro also has 304 HP.

    Dave in VA
  • joem5joem5 Posts: 201
    What's a Canadian Mazda GX compared to the cars Mazda offers here? Is it a S or 3 model?
    When I bought my Type S it didn't have heated seats ,but the Canadian model did.
    TY
  • jeffyscottjeffyscott Posts: 3,855
    With a manual, that camaro is rated at 25 mpg hwy. I wonder how they got it up to 29, with the automatic?
  • joem5joem5 Posts: 201
    Dave, maybe if the Camaro is a six speed and your'e driving it like "Granny Grunt" 45 mpg you'll get 29 mpg.
    The Camaro is a muslcle car and a fun ride. I get on I 70 with my 200 HP Type S and it wants to go,but not 45 miles an hour,rather 75miles an hour. No way do I get 29 mpg @ 75, I do at 60 though.Out west some states are'nt posted. I drove from Arizona to Vail . When I hit the Gun Barell 80 miles of road kill and desert I was averaging 85 to 100.
    No way ,if you live in Wyoming,New Mexico, or CO and CA arwe you going to drive like Granny . You'll get run over. NO 304 HP car is bought with gas milage in mind.
  • autonomousautonomous Posts: 1,769
    What's a Canadian Mazda GX compared to the cars Mazda offers here? Is it a S or 3 model?

    The GX is the 2.0L Mazda3 with 148 hp and 135 lb.ft. of torque. It's available as a sedan (called Mazda 3 GX) or a hatchback (called the Mazda3 Sport GX). The GX model is over a thousand dollars cheaper than the pricier GS and GT versions of the Mazda3. For more information, Google Mazda Canada.

    By the way, my 2002 Mazda Protege5 automatic is also a 2.0L but it outputs only 130 hp and 135 lb. ft. of torque. Its curb weight is 2749 lb; compare that to the 3077 lb. Mazda3 S GT automatic which is approx. 330 lbs heavier!

    I'd argue that bigger is not better in this case. Imagine if the 2010 Mazda3 was lighter than its predecessor? Wouldn't that make it more agile, more fuel efficient, more zoom zoomier?
  • joem5joem5 Posts: 201
    Thanks, if i known that I would of looked into a Canadian purchase. I live in Maine in the summer and close to the boarder.
    I agree if the 2010 Mazda 3 were lighter you would get alot zoom with gusto.Why can't they gear a 6 spd mazda 3 HB with the 2.0 and have a cold weather package and sunroof as an option?. No they want you to go to a S model.
    I have had 2 RX 7"s a GX and and GXL and a Mazda 323 HB(I wish they made it now) I always liked the protege ES too.This Maxzda 08.5 New value I can't get my golf clubs in the trunk, let alone my mother in law.
    I'm going to wait as much as I fear Volkswan Das Auto. You get what is optionable On a Mazda GT HB standard for $19600.00 now. I went to VW dealer yesterday. Also they have a 7 speed DGB transmission coming.,That Rabbit had heated seats and a sunroof standard. :confuse: .
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