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Heck... Chrysler practically invented the minivan.. I sure can't imagine VW re-badging an Asian competitor's van... :surprise:
I think they did a nice job with it.
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i don't care.
to me, it's only a van and my wife drives it mostly.
Can i drive a Volkswagen for a change and not have these VW purist calling it basically a fake?
i guess not - a protestant in a catholic church?.... just not "pure" enough.
i just noticed the steering column is not aligned with the dash board. So, the steering wheel seems (even though it's not) off-center because it is aligned to the column.
Does anyone else have this situation?
it may be a simple adjustment under the dash.
It's minor, but it still bothers a precision engineer like me.
A Routan is an AMERICAN van with upgraded interior parts and suspension parts by the GERMAN. From the drivetrains to the chassis, it's all AMERICAN.
How many vans in the American market are built 100% in Japan and Germany? A Dodge Sprinter is 100% German. A Nissan Cube (a mini minivan) is all Japanese. A Mazda 5 is all Japanese...
i consider personal attacks to be inappropriate behavior in this forum.
Hope this helps.
"A Routan is an AMERICAN van"
i think the engineers at Volkswagen would disagree with you.
--- designed by Germans and built by Americans ----
is that so hard to grasp?
it's not worth it for me to argue the obvious facts.
i could just as easily had gotten a Chrysler, Honda or Toyota.
i just like Volkswagen, OK? i am a baby boomer, nostalgia of the 70's, even if it is controversial...
hmmm... isn't it more like
--- designed by Americans and built by Canadians (Windsor, Ontario) ----
If you open up the hood you'll see a Chrysler logo. I have a Routan and I think it's a great van. Besides the grill, suspension and interior it's a Chrysler Town&Country. It's like saying Dodge Grand Caravan and Town&Country are completely different vans.
I'm not saying badge engineering is anything bad. If you look Japanese imports they do it all the time. Toyota Highlander = Lexus RX, Honda Pilot = Acura MDX. But let's not get carried away and think that this van was actually designed from VW.
I bought the SEL with RSE in early May.
I paid $27.6K before tax and registration.
There was a $1500 discount for RSE and $500 for owner loyalty as well as the $6K cash from VW that I took in lieu of the 0% financing cuz I financed through my CU at 4.99% for 72 months which has a lower NPV than the 0% financing offer.
I tried negotiating some of the "hold back" but that discussion wasn't going anywhere fast.
Cheers ~ Rio
What color did you get? How do you like the RSE?
Kris of Seattle (Q)
Package 3
RSE
Asked for and received as part of deal second two sets of ear phones and second remote (hey, room for 5 in the back most of them should have head phones, right?).
Very no-hassle deal.
MSRP 39,3k
Trade: 2004 Chrysler Pacifica priced by Volvomax on "Real World Tade in Value" forum at 4-5k
Out the door price including tax (8% here, ouch), dealer fees (if any -- I don't really care), DMV (at $165 but will be refunded difference if there is any) -- etc. etc. etc -- of 26k even.
Net was 13.3k off list -- maybe 5k of which was Pacifica (which means real discount was 8.3k off list).
Paid $500 less than invoice, plus got the $3,500 cash incentive, AND used their special rate financing (was better deal than taking $7k and using my credit-union financing). Add 3% tax, $55 tags, $459 doc fee. Got $3k for my 2003 Mazda MPV w/ 145k miles, a cracked windshield in 2 places, scratches all around, an indention in the rear liftgate and a front bumper with a hole in it (don't ask). I thought that was great, and more than KBB for that condition, actually. Here's the breakdown:
Invoice $37,037
Discount ($500)
Incentive ($3,500)
Trade ($3,000)
Net Cost $30,037
3% tax $901.11
Tags $55
Doc fee $459
OTD price $31,452.11 with 0.5% for 72 months
What do you think?
What was incentive if you paid cash?
it was $6,000 couple months ago, if you paid cash in full.
and $2,000 if financed it.
i would say it's pretty good deal.
Red one, huh? i love that color! we ended up with a Silver. Those are the best colors i think. We considered blue, but we thought we would get tired of it after a while and blue can look bad when it the shine goes away.
In my local area, there are five VW dealers... Four of the dealers sometimes run a general VW ad, touting 66 months for Routans, etc... But, the other dealer isn't included in those ads..
That dealer runs their own ad... with 72 month financing.. I'm assuming they can do this by using what they would spend on the regional advertising association to buy the extra months on the rate from VW Finance...
regards,
kyfdx
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Cash price is $26400
Plus sales tax and fees , $28,850 OTD.
Like the nav&satellite radio&backup camera a lot so far. 4L engine is very powerful.
Yes, the going price for SEL is 10K off list.
SE is 9K off list.
S is 8K off list.
Black looked really cool, we got a silver because we are laze
We liked the sky blue at first, but changed our mind.
The trend seems to be black, white or metallic (not crayon colors)
msrp 39,400 ~(7,000) off
purchased for 32400 plus got the additional 0% for 72m.
While not a door buster the price seemed reasonable, considering it is a dealer trade.
MSRP: $44,500
Invoice $41,233
Price: $34,500 w/o 0% - rate was 6%
Price: $38,000 w/ 0% 72 mos.
I'm probably going to go with the 0%.
Thanks for the help!
If you can get outside financing and walk in with a check, you should be able to get the $10K off.
As a side note, I believe we got the 7500 b/c there is apparently a 6000 factory to dealer incentive and a 1500 customer rebate. If I'd taken their 0% financing for up to 72 months (what a deal!), I couldn't have gotten that amount off. I had my own financing.
I recently received an email from Roseville VW, they have about 9 SELs on stock, mostly loaded w/ RSE and/or Nav. They are advertising $10K off on all remaining Routans. Also learned that the factory-installed RSE package has an additional dealer incentive of $1,500. So if you are in the market for a Routan and in central/northern California, I suggest buying one right now. It should be easy to haggle $11.5K off MSRP on SEL Routans w/ RSE package. But check with Sunnyvale first, they might have more S/SE trims.
Price is $33,400 + tax, tag, title with 0% 72mo financing. If I went without the financing they would have taken an additional $4500 off but the financing works out to be a better deal as we are planning on keeping this van for a long time. The best deals will be had before the end of this month, so if you are thinking about buying, now is the time. Good luck and happy negotiating!
Great price! I am working with a dealership in Md that offered $30k on a $40k 2009 SEL Routan. I walked away. Found on Edmunds they are listing it for 28k. How were you able to work it down to $25k with your dealer? I would love to get if for the same price. Want to buy tomorrow to take advantage of the tax credit!
Thanks,
Tom
Laurel, Md