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Also, here is a link to one that is a base model (no moonroof). I post it only because the comment was made that most are being made with the 501A or 502A packages (which is true as far as I can tell). This one has only the 500A and is thus not as loaded or expensive. I am in no way associated with the dealer - just putting it out there in case someone is looking for a less expensive option or doesn't want a moonroof. Dealer is in Tennessee
Type the following item number in ebay: 320372084933
40% for April.
I am finally learning how to drive this car. It takes me about .2 of a gallon to get to work. I am getting 40-42 if I am in a mood to have fun. It is like playing a video game on my drive to work. I need a 3rd eye to keep up with all the gauges!
Ordered Milan Hybrid - 3/31/09
Order verification by Ford Hybrid division - 4/1/09
Asked dealer and got a VIN and build schedule - 3 weeks later
Build complete confirmation - 5/2/09
Delivered - 5/20/09
Driving......so far 400 miles mixed use city/highway
Average on system - 37.2 mpg
Trip mpg variation - lowest 32 to highest 46 (trips of 10+ miles each)
Excellent navigation system and sync works great
Really fun to drive with nice power and control
Very very quite inside
Sometime hear high pitch whine from electric motor but not much distraction...
I hope reliability will be as good too:-)
Tej
Just wondering if any of you new owners have experienced this and do you think it is normal?
I am wondering about the owners manual saying that you go 10,000 miles between oil changes. I am not sure I will be following that advice.
Yea, 10k is too long. I'm planning to change at 7.5k miles.
Turned over 3k miles today. The constant readout mpg just increased to 39mpg (I think that is for the last 2k miles). The long term mpg you see when you turn off the car is 38.8mpg.
http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/ticker/article.aspx?Feed=PR&Date=20090428&ID=98- 46069&Symbol=F
I was amazed that they were able to get that outside of DC.
Probably Fusion/Milan Hybrid combination has overtaken Camry Hybrid sales.
After all, these 2 vehicles give nearly 40 MPG while Camry gives around 37 MPG.
Finally, Americans have learnt to make Excellent Hybrids.
Possibly that is true, but the Camry hybrid probably sold around 3,000, and remember: it's a 3-yr-old model, while the Fusion/Milan are brand spanking new.
And I'm sure there are good number of people who might have been shopping both the Camry hybrid and the Fusion/Milan hybrids, but who decided to "hold off" and take a look at the 2010 Prius which is upcoming. The anticipation for the new Prius is hurting all other hybrid sales right now.
Brand new cars with "good buzz" usually have a sales spike.
Not to say they are not excellent cars, but before declaring them "excellent," why don't we give it a couple of years and let them get some good road miles under them, eh?
More competition from Ford helps Toyota work harder, so it's all good.
“Consideration for our new products is increasing,” said Ken Czubay, Ford vice president, Sales
and Marketing. “Even as the competitive environment intensifies, Ford’s relentless pursuit of
quality, fuel efficiency, smart technology and appealing designs is winning new customers.”
I agree, folks are starting to take note of this. If Ford is going to strike this is the time.
I must admit that I am confused why the over 50% drop in the Focus. Even the Taurus is 50% off. I actually like how the new Taurus looks.
http://media.ford.com/images/10031/May09sales.pdf
It is funny how the marketing guys can swing the figures. They are at a 36% vehicle drop from last year. However I use to work in Army recruiting and I know how to make the lines on the chart go up.
I was reading about GM and how it started going down one it started sharing platforms and the cars uniqueness disappeared. Perhaps that can explain why the Mercury Grand Marquis is still selling. Brand loyalty you think due to uniqueness?
I know I posted a lot in this mail.
Three months, 3k mileage on my Milan HB, 36 mpg overall with spurts up to 45 mpg. No issues, and not one Milan HB has showed up at one of the largest Mercury dealers in Maryland. Where are they?
50% drop in Focus because gas is $2.50 not 4.50. Americans have short memories. Good thing we have CAFE to mandate what car you want, right? Losers.
The 50% off Taurus is still the old Taurus, the new one isn't on the street yet as far as I know. It looked pretty sharp that the Chicago auto show, kind of Acura TL-ish in the front, while the Fusion strikes me as TL-ish in the back. I guess there are only so many ways you can draw lines on the front and back of a car.
They are at a 36% vehicle drop from last year. However I use to work in Army recruiting and I know how to make the lines on the chart go up.
Yeah they went from talking about vehicles sold to market share...I guess a bigger piece of a smaller pie balances things out a little? :confuse:
The fact that Ford saw a month over month improvement and had a "less bad" month than Honda or Toyota is significant. The fact that they did it while reducing incentives is even better. And they have yet to sell the MKT, Transit Connect, new Taurus and Ecoboost versions of the Flex and MKS, all due later this year.
Throw in the Fiesta which will be a new market segment for Ford plus a redesigned Explorer, Euro Focus, etc. and Ford should be sitting pretty at the end of 2010.
The only real advantage the Prius has over the Ford, MPG, that's about it, it sure isn't quality anymore.
I am about to part ways with my 2005 Prius (with 127,000 miles, so I've gotten my use) and have ordered a Fusion hybrid -- like you said, the MPG is better in the Prius but after driving the Fusion there is no comparison when it comes to ride quality.
I hate to buy before I see/drive a Fusion hybrid. Saturday I went to the local Ford dealer. My wife and I walked all around the showroom, walked around the lot, looked at numerous cars, and not one salesman approached us.
Next i called another Ford dealer 25 miles away. No 2010 Hybrids, and none expected for "several months."
I then called another dealer, 50 miles away. He said they have none and do not know when the factory will begin 2010 assembly.
I once rented a Fusion, and was impressed with the vehicle. But the dealers are going to need to show a bit more interest. Plus there is still a tax credit for the Fusion. Get with it Ford!
As for being ignored at the Ford dealership, what city and state was that in? I like to play the "Mississippi" game where I count "1-Mississippi, 2-Mississippi, etc" in my head to see how long they take to get to me. The first visit to the dealer made it to 12-Mississippi, I was almost over to the Fusions. We took a test drive in a regular Fusion (no hybrids on the lot, 2 were due-in) and that's all we wanted for that night, our only aim was to take a drive. The next time was just me going to back to place the order, and I got to 2-Mississippi and there was a guy there "hey there, can I help ya?" and I said no thanks I'm looking for (salesman's name). I should have started counting again because I wouldn't have made it past 6-Mississippi and there was another just as I had gotten halfway to the showroom... I made it past him, and like an NFL zone defense as soon as one broke off, there was another to pick up my moves. I finally made it past #3 to get into the door of the showroom and find my salesman, where we wrote up the papers to order the car. Sorry to hear your experience was like walking through a ghost town.
As for calling the dealer 25 miles away, they might have had none in stock at the time, but didn't they offer to special order one for you? I understand that you probably would not want to take them up on it without at least a test drive, but it's surprising that they didn't offer to order one for you as I think that's easy money for them with just watching the car come off the truck and doing PDI and then out the door it goes.
The other dealer (50 miles away) that said that they did not know when the factory would begin their 2010 assembly would have to be really out of touch. You should be able to (just like dealer should be able to) run a "build your own" online and then do an inventory search in their area. In fact, the dealer should have the capability to use their internal system and put in the car criteria and run a search within 500 miles. My Dad is retired and spends his time ferrying cars from one dealership to another (for a Toyota dealer), they do searches within their region all the time and my Ford salesman did a search for me to find my exact match and we decided we needed to order one. To hear that the dealer didn't know about any of this or not even know if the model was being built yet (I saw a window sticker with a build date of April, so there were probably some before that), wow that is surprising.
Well, whatever you decide on, be it Prius or Fusion or otherwise, good luck with it!
Several of us have commented on Ford's Fusion Hybrid advertisements, but no cars to buy.
The 2010s are out, each one of us who has a MMH or FFH has a 2010 car. My dealer has 2010 regular Fusions.
I've never driven a regular Fusion, but I suspect it would drive the same as the FFH.
If you can find a car to test drive, maybe a regular Fusion, you might want to special order a FFH so you get only the options you want. Many, but not all of the dealers are pre-ordering the FFHs with all the options because the demand is still high enough that FFH buyers will pay for options they don't need or want just to get the cars. Which means more profit for them.
Yesterday I read a review of the specs on the 2010 Prius and the FFH. There was very little difference between the two cars on interior dimensions. Now, I've never been in a 2010 Prius, but I drove a 2009 Prius for a week, and there is a big difference in the "feel" of the interior space, with the FFH "feeling" like an Accord. I know "feelings" aren't facts, but the Prius only felt a little bigger than my Saturn Ion. I suspect the Prius does have more trunk room than the FFH due to it being a hatchback.
The Prius is versatile and you can flip down the seats that cram all sorts of stuff in it, so if that's one's interest it's probably the better move. For me it was the ride as well as the $1,700 tax credit which is not longer available with the Prius and softens the blow of the price differential.
We live in Utah, and there are other dealers not much further away. I plan to make a decision soon, and for that reason I would really like to drive a Fusion first. I like the tax credit, but thus far, the indication is the Ford dealers will add more than that to the MSRP. The Toyota dealer did not, plus they offered $2000 more for my trade-in than I expected.
Again, thanks .... I will not jump into either without a great deal more research. Actually, that is the phase I most enjoy.
I feel some urgency to proceed soon. I am absolutely convinced that gas will continue to get more expensive. Hybrids will become hard to find again, and the dealers will take advantage of the shortage. Plus, I feel congress will raise taxes .... that is the only way they will ever get the public into small electric vehicles. Yeah, I know, pretty pessimistic .... but that is what I foresee.
Rarely (if ever) have I seen such positive reviews for a vehicle. Out of 24 reviews to date, there is only one negative review. People are extremely happy with their FFH.
I would also encourage any FFH owners who have not added a review to do so...
Go drive a regular Fusion and if you like it and you want the hybrid then order the FFH. Because this doesn't count against their allocation (that runs out this month I believe so don't procrastinate) they should be willing to order one for you at no more than MSRP, sometimes a lot less. This is different from buying one off the lot.