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Thanks,
I am considering covering the areas of the piano black:
AC Vent areas, Door trim.
Also the top of the center console where the cup holders and door switches are. and possibly the power window switch areas...
but NO additional dash trim, nothing near the speedo, or radio etc...
I had a similar treatment on my Infiniti G35
I would probably lean towards a black interior even though I know it would be kind of dark just to stay away from that look. The door trim doesn't look as bad but still too much contrast IMO. I know some of the pictures make the colors look a little off but wondering what others think. It could be just me as I really don't care for the multicolored leather seats in some other makes either.
I agree, but I'm not too concerned since I bought the black interior. My wife hates black. But after seeing some pictures of the other colors I wasn't going to get anything else.
I've asked the question of 3 different dealerships, and have gotten different answers. One told me it was some different type of paint that resists chipping better than the other colors. That would be a good thing around here ( lots of rock trucks on the freeway ). Another told me it was because it was 7 coats of paint ( but didn't know how many coats the other colors had ). The last dealer just didn't have an answer.
Tuckedog1
in the sportier SE model, and the upcoming 2.0T(274 HP Turbo). Right now they're only
putting the stick shift in the "base" GLS model. BORING!! I want the sport tuned
suspension, the 18 inch wheels, and the sportier interior of the SE, but I don't want the
automatic (even with the "paddle" shifter levers on the steering wheel - WOW!).
If Hyundai put a crisp, close ratio "stick" in the SE and the 2.0T, I'm sure it would sell in
sufficient numbers to be profitable.
Let's put some pressure on the marketing gurus at Hyundai to make the fun of shifting for
ourselves available to a wider range of auto enthusiasts.
I came very close to buying a used Caddy CTS "V" from CARMAX last week. Big V8,
400HP, 6 speed stick. The price was at the high end of "retail" and they offered too little
on my trade. Besides, I'd rather wait and see if Hyundai will see the light and tap into
another segment of the buying public.
Feel free to try and absolutely nothing against the Sonata but it is not a car really meant for "auto enthusiasts". It's a very competitive, probably #1 value midsize family sedan with a version that is a little tighter sprung for people that like that sort of ride(SE) and that's about it. Even the Mazda6 with the V6 doesn't come in a manual anymore and that was always known as the drivers car of the midsize sedans. Same with the Altima I believe.
IMO, Hyundai is going to be selling so many of these cars that they won't be searching for a way to reach that 1-2% of people that may want a stick in the uplevel versions. However, it's possible they may just offter a stck in the SE Turbo down the road when things settle down. You have to admit, they have been pretty busy putting out some wonderful new product to do everything at once. Right now I think they are going to building these as fast as they can and probably don't want a burp in the steady stream of auto trannies moving down the line.
Why??? Because that "other segment of the buying public" that you think is out there just didn't buy it. Why would they want to cut into their models that are actually meant for driving enthusiasts like the rear wheel drive Genesis line? Especially when they see all the other manufacturers dropping manuals in anything other than their absolute entry price versions. BMW sells a small percentage of manuals and they bill themselves as the car for enthusiasts.
I feel for you but I think it's getting to the point that if someone really wants what you seem to be looking for, the price of entry is probably going to be higher than Sonata....maybe like the Caddy you were looking at.
If I remember correctly, "alert" feature uses different "speaker" located in somewhere around front fender. The poster said he had a bad speaker so that his dealer replaced it for him.
However, you might want to check car's system setting first. There is a way to "personalize" things using "trip" button on your steering wheel. You can find those information in your Owner's manual.
By the way, I often hear some noise like clicking mouse button 5 times per second from passenger side. It only disappears when the shift is at certain gear and I'm not stepping on the gas pedal. After a while after speed is down and shift changes, it sounds again. I don't know if this is normal or I'm too sensitive :confuse:
Thanks for any suggestions.
I'm all for this! Hope it can happen~
This would be one way for Hyundai to steal sales from Honda. Honda is abandoning manuals. If Hyundai became the company that gave the option of a manual throughout the line of its sports sedan, it could become the affordable BMW--which is what Honda has sometimes been called.
I would give a call to service dept of your dealer and let them know and check if they have any idea about it.
They probably have no idea at this point but you can report it to them at least. When it happens again, you can call them right away and they might want to tow your car in.
I believe there is a sort of "black box" that keeps last electric signal about for 20-30 seconds. So once they tow your car in, they can analyze it to see what causes the issue. However, if you restart your car and move, those records will be overwrited with new data.
I agree and I want the camel interior. Is there anything that can be done about that? After market or request a black steering wheel? Cover or something? Although on second look I guess it's not as bad as I had remembered going by this picture:
Camel Interior
Pearl white is beautiful.
Eco light makes me want to drive like a grandpa. Been averaging 34 mpg in mixed driving per the trip computer.
I and many many other people can't believe this is a Hyundai.
Everyone thinks this is a luxury brand car.
Surprises:
3 blink lane change signal
Little light by sunroof button (but doesn't appear to be a mood lighting)
Dimension stereo sound is great
Dislikes (nitpicking):
Horn (supposedly being replaced with stronger horn for currently built sonatas)
No light inside the center console
No digital readout for automatic temperature
Things Hyundai should consider for 2012:
Power passenger seats
Auto up/down for passenger window
Trunk cargo net
Put instant MPG info together with average MPG info like Acura (it's more fun to look at both at the same time)
4 cyl engine noise is similar to TSX. It's got plenty of power and the car is very quite when driving, very little wind or road noise. Steering feel is good, suspension to me feels just right, not soft but not too hard. Overall, I am impressed with the new Sonata and this has to be the best value whether you lease or buy. More updates comings soon. Ask any questions you may have.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nba47/sets/72157623641980373/
No, that's for the outside temperature. But there is none for setting the auto temperature controls. It's a dial knob.
The Hybrid was pretty different outside, with a much more feminine look (IMHO) than the regular Sonata thanks to the removal of the flashy grill and some other exterior changes. Overall I liked the look, but not as much as the regular Sonata's. I guess getting 37mpg city would be nice though.
The Equus is a beautiful car. Interior features and quality were superb, and hopefully Hyundai will be able to convince current Lexus/Mercedes buyers to consider it. Like the Genesis, there is little reminder that the car is actually a Hyundai from the outside.
Sonata 2.0T -
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Hybrid -
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http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs462.snc3/25392_545490241602_581033- - 87_32008082_4299362_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs462.snc3/25392_545491663752_581033- - 87_32008217_4164047_n.jpg
Equus -
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http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs462.ash1/25392_545491648782_581033- - 87_32008214_464814_n.jpg
Where is this 'little light'?
TIA
Does the tranny shift down often while going up a minor grade or hill? Is there a control feature to not let the tranny shift down? I think the older Sonata had it.
It seems like the 2011 Sonata would downshift more often now that the eng RPM is slower while cruising at 70.
The reason I ask is I had a GM that had a very stupid transmission that would downshift at the slightest grade, speed back up to 70mph, then shift back into overdrive before hitting the top of the grade, then it would downshift again. Needless to say it was very annoying to me.
That was one reason I bought a manual shifting car the last time, no more stupid transmission..
It will probably arrive while I am in Seoul next week. It amazes me how far Hyundai has come in the last 10 years or so.
My work has me traveling to Asia 2x a year to meet with our Vendors. (Including Samsung, LG etc..) I have been traveling to Korea since 1991. When I would arrive at the Airport, I was always picked up in a Cadillac, or Mercedes sedan; never a Hyundai.
I watched over the years as the Korean cars evolved from smoke-belching jalopies, to their current state. In the late 1990’s I had the opportunity to ride in a few of the Sonatas, and noticed the improvement. In 2000, I got picked up in an Equus, and I was blown away! I thought it was a re-badged Lexus or something. My hosts pointed out that it was a joint venture with Mitsubishi, and that it was about a $80,000 USD car. I also had a chance to ride in a few XG/Grandeur, and was impressed. In 2001, I bought my Mother in Law a Sonata. In 2002 We got my Wife a Santa Fe, and a used 2000 Sonata for my kids. All of them were great vehicles with no significant problems.
This past summer, we traded my Son’s 2000 Sonata (With 155K miles) on a 2009 Sonata GLS. During that time I also test drove a 2009 Limited, and was pretty impressed.
I recently decided it was time to replace my 2003 Infiniti G35 RWD. It’s been a great car, but since I have moved back to the Chicago Area, it can be challenging to drive in our winters.
I considered buying several cars including; Buick LaCrosse, Ford Taurus, Ford Fusion, Infiniti M35X and G37X. I also test drove the 2011 Sonata Limited, and was very impressed. I came very close to getting the M35, but I got seriously low-balled on my trade. :mad:
On the way home from the Infiniti dealer, I passed a gas station where the price had just changed to $3.05 a gallon for Reg, and $3.25 for Premium, that the M requires. :confuse: It made me question why I should spend $15K more for a car, and then spend more on gas, insurance etc No, it won’t outrun the G35, but after carefully weighing the value, I pulled the trigger on the Sonata. :shades:
Maybe it's something that just takes getting used to as this is a little different look than most cars have on the steering wheel.
I've never driven a TSX, so can't give a comparison between that & the Sonata Limited, But did compare an SE vs the Limited. Two different sales people didn't want to oblige me with a drive in the Limited after the SE, both saying there was no noticeabe difference. But I insisted, and they were wrong ( or just lazy ). I mean how can one have a sportier suspension, 18' vs 17" wheels & lower profile tires and not feel different? The Limited did have a more comfortable ride. The SE was fine for a test drive, and everyday trips. But I'm getting older, and suspect if I took a longer trip and put 1K miles under my butt in a day, that stiffer ride would start to really get noticed. I prefer the look of the SE ( 18" wheels & dual exhaust ). But at my age, prefer to impress those on the inside, more than those on the outside.
Tuckerdog1
TSX is certainly more nimble and suspension feels like a true sports sedan. Sonata however is not far behind in terms of stiffness of the suspension even on the limited model. It certainly doesn't feel like a Camry. The seats in Sonata are as supportive as those in the TSX. I have not gone above 3,000 RPM yet and turned corners fast so the true comparison has to wait. I find the Sonata just right in terms of ride comfort and handling. Hyundai may not have the true and tested Honda steering accuracy yet but I feel they are very close and something non professional drivers would notice. Brake feel is very good. Sonata is much roomier, has huge trunk space and feels $10,000 richer although it's priced a lot lower. Did I mention great stereo system? Also, Sonata's door closes with a thud whereas TSX feels cheap.
There is a little light by the sunroof switch. However, it's not strong and does not create any "mood" lighting by the console.
I uploaded lots of pics of my Pearl White Limited w/o Navi. One of the pics show where the light is:
http://www1.snapfish.com/thumbnailshare/AlbumID=2340350017/a=7356081_7356081/ots- c=SHR/otsi=SALBlink/COBRAND_NAME=snapfish/
More wishes for 2012:
Memory seats with separate key fobs for driver 1 and 2.
Auto window open feature from the key fob