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Sorry you are having issues but I'm not surprised.
Well I don't consider that particularly remarkable. We bought my son a 2000
Chevy Cavalier for $10,500 new. He drove it for 8 years and then gave it to his
girlfriend. It now has 190,000 miles with no major issues. (A/ C is out) I sold
a 1989 Chevy Astro a while back with 160,000 milles and met the new owner a
few years later and he had 320,000 miles on it and still running strong.
(2 engines - original tranny)
That would destroy the interior of the car after a while.
That dealer should not be allowed to sell Hyundai's if they think that way.
I told my salesman at my local dealer and he agreed they shouldn't be allowed to sell..
Yes,,, a little too amazing. Why would a dealer say that for goshsakes?
Wondering if the OP meant "common" rather than "normal". It's not real uncommon for sun roofs to leak and make noise.
I've had 6 cars with sunroofs and not one leaked EVER, even in a carwash. Maybe I'm just lucky but I would think if it was common most people would skip that option. Now make a little noise I would agree is fairly common.
Could something like this be the source of your problem?
CallHyundai Corporate and relate your story to them. I believe you will receive immediate action!
That said, the vast majority of owners seem to be very satisfied.
I bought this car with very high expectations, coming from 2 Infinitis previous to getting a 2011 Sonata Limited. So far, I have no major issues, and only a few minor suggestions for improvements.
I've heard a few people comment it looks like a Solara recently and I can only conclude they either have not seen a new Sonata in person or are smoking crack. To me the Solara is rather ugly, and this isnt even in the same league.
I haven't had a chance to read all the posts. Sorry if I missed something. Are you sure the sound you hear is from the C-pillar ("C-Pillar tapping sound")? I've noticed a similar sound, but it is at the B-pillar.
There is a plastic rivet that holds the latch for the seat belt at a location that is easy to reach. When wind enters the car a various speeds, it causes the passenger seat belt to "flutter" and the latch to tap against the plastic on the interior of the B-pillar. You may not be able to see it, depending on the location of the passenger seat.
The tapping is very loud and happens at different speeds. I'm not sure if the passenger window has to be open or if it happens with the driver's window open and the passenger window closed. I'm also not sure about the sunroof position. I'll have to pay attention the next time it happens.
I also had a similar problem with the passenger seat. It appears that the recline lever does not "seat" correctly at times. You can try changing the recline position and verify that the lever is all the way down.
Hopefully this will help you, or someone with a similar problem.
Either way, good luck getting the problems resolved.
link title
The 2011 Hyundai Sonata is selling strongly out of the gate--but two new versions on the way later this year will give mid-size sedan shoppers a couple more reasons to reconsider the V-6-powered competition.
Green-car fans can look forward to the Hyundai Sonata Hybrid, which shows up at year's end with a set of lithium-polymer batteries, a conventional six-speed automatic transmission and a potential 40-mpg highway fuel economy rating, according to John Krafcik, CEO for the American unit of the Korean automaker.
Enthusiasts will skip ahead to the Sonata 2.0T turbo, which Krafcik says will complete the "perfect trifecta." Under the hood: a 2.4-liter turbocharged four-cylinder with 274 horsepower. He estimates the Turbo version will only lose 1 mpg of fuel economy from the standard four-cylinder car, for a possible 34-mpg EPA highway rating.
"We think no car has ever put those tow numbers together," he adds.
The Sonata turbo won't be much more expensive than standard Sonatas, he notes. The new Sonata carries a base price of about $20,000, which rises to about $26,000 in the Limited edition. The Sonata 2.0T Turbo will range from about $26,000 to just under $30,000 in Limited form, he says.
Hyundai starts production of the new turbo version in September, with sales starting at the end of that month.
Krafcik also confirms Hyundai's American sales arm is looking closely at a proposed wagon version of the Sonata. The new model's in development for other world markets, particularly for Europe, and Krafcik admits he'd like to see it come to the U.S.--particularly as new fuel-economy regulations for 35-mpg cars are phased in over the next few years.
"Hyundai starts production of the new turbo version in September, with sales starting at the end of that month."
Sweet. That's perfect. Thanks for posting the article!
That's a little bit more than I had expected. That means that with Nav the Ltd turbo could be around 32k. Wow, that's a lot of money for a Sonata. I thought it would add maybe $2500 to $3000 to the price but it appears to be around $4k. I know you get a couple of extra bells and whistles with the turbo pkg but that is still a big jump. Maybe just wishful thinking on my part.
I mean looking real quick at a 2010 Mazda 6 as an example. V6 with very similar HP and torque, you're hitting 33k MSRP and you're not getting near 34 MPG. Plus the Turbo would probably out equip it as well with a panoramic sunroof and paddle shifters, I dont think the 6 has those.
I agree with your analogy about getting more car for the same money though. Still will probably be a pretty good deal though.
To my knowledge, the Mazda6 V6 gets the worst mpg in the class. I have an I4 Mazda6 and was kind of looking at the new one with the V6 until I saw those mpg numbers. The Mazda i4 is a good engine but a little underpowered compared to the field now but the v6 sucks gas so bad, the combo of those two things knocked the 6 off my list. However, I would put the handling of the 6 well above the Sonata and still slightly above the Fusion, Altima and Accord. I've heard the Sonata SE handles very well but it also has been ragged for riding harshly. The Mazda seems to be able to have both the handling prowess and the ride as well. Sonata will probably get there too but it's not quite there yet. It took Mazda a lot of years and a lot of racing to develop that suspension and steering system to what it is today.
This is my remaining area of concern with both the Optima and the Sonata. Turbo or not. Probably the main reason the Regal GS is still on my short list of cars to watch.
Used 313 litres gas which equals an average of 7L / 100 Km (OR 40.4 mpg/ Can gal. OR 33.6 mpg /US gal.)
Approx 20% driving on Expressway (120 kph or 75 mph) - 10 % city & 70% on country roads (80 kph or 50-60 mph- drove a lot of scenic roads through NY, Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine, New Brunswick & PEI). one section of road, 150 miles when my wife babied the gas pedal and held to the 50-55 speed limits & we averaged an unbelievable 5.6 L / 100 km (50.4 mpg /Can gal or 42 mpg/ US gal).
The overall trip was great - good ride, only trouble was a couple of cases that the GPS froze, but restarting car cleared any problem (you know, if computer freezes, unplug it.) Probably something I had done wrong setting it.
Had a lot of positive comments on the Limited, Venetian red w camel leather. Couldn't be happier with the car particularly the fuel economy - Why wait for the Hybrid ?
Also, can I buy the extended warranty later ? How much higher will the price be, let's say, if I buy after a year.
Thanks,
Sandy
How do you unplug the GPS system?I didn't buy my car as of yet but planning to in Aug.Is there any pulling to left?noise?that's what I've been reading.I love the Sonata SE I just hope it will be a good car.Good luck with yours.
I placed an order with my dealership on 4/23/10 to purchase a fully loaded Black on Black limited Sonata 2011. On 6/21/10 I finally received it. During that time the dealer offered me a grey limited fully loaded as well as a red one. However, I held out for the Black on Black.
I am pleased to write that I could not be happier with this car. In this segment, I believe the hyundai 2011 sonata is hands down the winner. I am certain Honda & Toyota will update their Accord & Camry respectively to compete in the coming months and years, and I am sure they'll come with something worth looking at.
However, the sonata is clearly the winner in 2010. From looks, gas mileage, cost and amenities, it is difficult to compete with the Sonata.
All of this is personal preference, but this is a Hyundai blog, and I just want to share my thoughts on this.
The navigation menu and blue tooth features are sweet. The voice activation for dozens of different items was an awesome unexpected surprise. (I am sure this is available on most nav systems - this is my first one).
Already I have received comments about how the car looks like a lexus or a mercedes. The 400 Watt speaker system certainly brings an additional smile to your face during your drives to and from work.
I have only driven 150 miles thus far, but I just wanted to post my thoughts. These limited models I am being told are extremely hard to come by. I was also told from the Dealer, because they are hard to find, it may be difficult to buy one under MRSP.
In recap, this Hyundai owner has a big smile on his face, and looks forward to driving miles and miles with a shiny new stylish sedan with some kick [non-permissible content removed] amenities.
Don't know what you mean by OTD in this reference. Usually, OTD means price+tax, title, tags, dealer fee etc.
Stand by my earlier statement. What you are quoting is many months old from the LA auto show. According to other poster Hyundai has just now come out and said the current models run from 20-26k and that the turbo models will run from 26k to just under 30k. So if the new Ltd turbo is just under 30k and you add NAV you have $32k MSRP. If sold at MSRP the OTD price would be substantially more than that in states where sales tax is charged. So a LTD turbo with NAV would probably be around 34k OTD if sold at full price and that is all we can go on right now. Street prices will vary but there will probably be little discounting for awhile.
So as of this latest info, it appears that the turbo and associated other goodies include with it is going to run about 4k more.
Typically, an extended warranty can be purchased at any time while the mfg warranty is in effect. So no, you don't have to buy it on day one.
What did you replace and how is the power and ride compared with your old car?
My previous Sonata had a V6 with approximately 180 hp. The 2011 Sonata has a 4 cylinder but 200 hp.
First, the cabin in the new Sonata is much nicer and quieter than the 2002, even though the engine is slightly louder. But the ride is much smoother, quieter and more powerful.
Not sure how many have kept with the Sonata. I am certainly pleased with upgraded model.
Let me know if you have any other questions.
My car does not have any strange noises and does not seem to pull to the left or right. I have tried this at different speeds since reading about on this forum.
With all my experience with Hyundai/Kia there have been very few problems, This goes back over 6 vehicles.
Good luck in buying in Aug, What color do you plan to get?
Hyundai shouldn't need to pack on any more goodies to the Limited trim by just adding Turbo. They only need Limited trim and just add the turbo, period. If that option is more than $2,000 msrp, then that is too much, especially when only adding the V6 only added $2,000 msrp to the previous gen Sonata. What else would they need to add with turbo? Too much and then they will start pricing themselves out of the segment.
Oh, I spoke to my brother yesterday. He is an engineer at the plant in Montgomery. He was gloating over driving a new turbo model around the plant. Only around the plant and not outside for a full-throttle run. I'm sure he'll brag the first chance he gets when he gets to take one outside for a test.
I already drive a 2009 GLS I4 and have over 58,000 miles with no problems. I am very pleased with it. The wife is getting the new limited. Maybe I'll drive it every now and then. I was very pleased when I first test-drove the new limited and that has not changed today after driving it a good 60-plus miles home from the dealership.
That's kind of where I was going with the price with getting up around $32k MSRP. I don't think they'll price themselves out of the segment but at the very top end of the segment you start crossing paths with discounted luxury brands.
They already announced that the turbo package for the Ltd would include several additons like panorama sunroof, dual exhaust and a couple of other things that I can't think of right now. They announced it a couple of months ago. Also adding some stuff to the SE turbo package but I can't recall those either. I'm sure somebody.else here has the answer.
The above was from a quote from Krafcik. From 26k to "just under 30k" is about $$4000 more for the turbo limited or am I reading this wrong? I'm not just guessing, it is based on a statement from the Hyundai US president.
The Turbo SE is said to be under $25K
And who is saying that??
Above copied from autoblog.com. Serious speed noted here if it turns out to be true.
http://www.autoblog.com/2010/06/23/hyundai-new-2-0-turbo-hits-60-in-6-5-seconds-- returns-34-mpg-hi/