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Go figure
I brought my car in the dealer 3 times, the first time w/ the grinding/bake light/ABS problem I spent over $1,200 for new rotors and brake pads. A few months later the same grinding problem occured, I towed my car in the dealer again, but they could not find any problems at all specially when they have records of the new brakes work done. The third time it happened on the freeway and it nearly cause an accident. I took my car back again, all inhouse mechanics there could not figure out what the grinding/noise/brake problem was with my car, except when I'm about to pick up my car, the guy at the frontdesk said the computer shows that I need to replace the brake boosters...! He laso said, if it happens again, pull over, turn off the engine, and restart after a few minutes to reset the boosters, but it is a temporary fix and that will not solve the problem until I replace the parts. He said it will cost about $850...!
If you have replaced these boosters, please verify that $850 is for 4 boosters or just the 2 front wheels.
I am planning to have a petition for all you Armada owners to sign. I believe this problem warrants a recall from Nissan.
Thanks
Amber
The bare facts are:
1. Nissan knows about this problem from many, many owners.
2. Nissan is not interested in fixing this problem or they would have by now.
3. Nissan obviously doesn't give a hoot about your safety, your wife's safety or the safety of
your children.
4. The dealers can't or won't fixt the problem. They continue to do things which they know don't work. I have a 2004 Armada, one of the original. It has had this ABS and brake problem on and off for 9 years. I have written to Nissan USA, brought it to various dealers and complained to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (They have a web site where you can e mail your complaint).
In my opinion, not enough Armada owners file their complaint in appropriate places. If all armada owners would file a complaint with NHTSA, as above, maybe they would order a recall and then Nissan would HAVE to fix the problem.
My other suggestion, which I have made, to no avail, to other Armada owners is to join me in bringing a Class Action Lawsuit, on behalf of all Nissan Owners similarly afflicted, against Nissan USA and the manufacturer. I happen to be a Long Island Attorney. I would be willing to commence the prosecute the suit, if the fellow owners would pitch in the share the Court costs and disbursements with me. My fee would be paid by Nissan if we win the law suit.
When I make this suggestion, it would appear that most Armada owners would rather rave about the problem on line, then go back to the football game on TV. Nobody appears sufficiently serious in bringing this matter to a head by making Nissan either fix this problem to pay damages to the owners of the defective vehicles it sold to Armada owners, with knowledge that the vehiclesl have this very dangerous defect.
So, unless you guys all get serious about this, stop putting these posts on line which are more than copious by now and become redundent. In all fairness, I have been reading these posts since I bought the Armada in 2004 and not one posting owner has thought the problem serious enough to do something about it.
Thanks for listening. Nissan must love the "sheep" who purchase their defective Armadas and do nothing.
NISRJZ
You may think your problem is fixed by rotors and brake pads, but that is not the problem. The real problem is in the ABS system, which actuates when it is not supposed to. Nissan knows this. They supposedly reprogrammed by ABs controler, replaced a sensor for the ABS and performed a recall on a switch/relay in the engine compartment, but the problem persists--worse than ever. Then the dealer took it back and tell me it needs a new brake booster. I asked the service writer " What does a brake booster have to do with the ABs coming on randomly" - His answer
was " I don't know...that's what the tech says". Perhaps he should had the "tech explain this to me", but no such effort was made. My usual local mechanic says it sounds like hogwash to him too.
Owners afflicted should join in a Class Action Law Suit in Federal Court.
The lawyer's fee will be paid by the defendant if we succeed.
Filing fee disbursements would have to be advanced by a few of us, however.
If anyone is TRULY interested in solving this problem once and for all, instead of leaving your family's at the mercy of Nissan's inaction and probablly endangering their very lives, I would suggest you get in touch with me and we can get the ball rolling.
NISRJZ
If you really want action, just go to small claims court. But no one (much) ever does that either.
Meanwhile if the recall didn't fix the problem and there's still a safety issue, owners should contact the NHTSA.
Meanwhile, the brake booster is a routine they go through to get you to spend money. I refused to do it, and my mechanic agreed. There is nothing wrong with your brake booster...trust me. Get it checked out with another mechanic.
When I refused to do that, I took the car back and went to my gas station mechanic....he put the car on the lift and found that it wasn't even the ABs acting up this time....the brake pad had come off its mounting plate which was clashing with the front rotor. Also he found a broken spring on the same right rear side. I got new brake pads, new rotors and two new front springs. Cost me $1200. but at least the right this was fixed. This was after Smithtown Nissan on Long Island gave me a checklist stating they performed a "safety check". They put my life in danger by writing up a phoney "safety check". Nissan owners out there, learn from my experience.
NISRjz
Put it in the public records so some smart attorney can pull it up when someone is badly injured because of this. In fact, even better, send a letter about it to Nissan USA in California, certified mail, return receipt request and keep the letter and the return receipt so you can give it to an attorney if you hear about an accident because of this problem. Keep them in a place where you can put your hands on it in the future.
All of you Armada owners should do this. Form a database of letters sent. Someone should organize this and have it ready so anyone hurt can sue Nissan USA and succeed.
Do yourself a favor. They use this problem to suggest you pay for
ridiculously repairs which have nothing to do with the abs problem, and they know it.
Get as far away as you can from any Nissan dealer. They are not honorable..all the way to the top management of Nissan USA.
Get rid of the Armada when you are able and never buy a Nissan product again. Vote with your dollars and your feet.
The Japanese just are no honorable people. we knew it in WWII and it is still the same way. Don't do business with them.. Their cars aren't so great anymore and US cars are better...wake up, all you jerks like me who bought a Nissan.
Nisrjz
08/18/13 reoccurrence of same issue while driving downtown Chicago in stop and go traffic. Brought it in with no lights on to Nissan Service (who have said I need the lights on to see what was wrong). Now all of a sudden they are telling me I need brake booster and to reprogram ABS = $1100. That should correct the problem, should is what they said at service. Not what I've read on the Internet.
I have read it could be the brake booster, could be just a ABS software issue that just needs an upgrade, a delta sensor, etc. Seems like Nissan is throwing parts at these vehicles without truly figuring out this very sporadic, terrifying problem! I called the Nissan dealer where I originally purchased the vehicle. They tell me I just need the brake booster replaced. Called a third dealer, they stated I just needed the ABS reprogrammed.
So, called Nissan Consumer Affairs, who had closed my previous complaint since it was a few months. Didn't know anything about this situation. Recommend doing what dealer that diagnosed it says, even though I was questioning what the real fix was and all that I've read online. Told me Nissan wouldn't pay for the fix. I told them I didn't care what the cost was, if it truly will fix the problem. I demanded to talk to a zone service manager and was told I couldn't. She said she would and call back. While waiting for her call back, I had it happen twice in the last week. The last time, I had 4 children in the car with me.
09/03/13. Nissan consumer affairs returned called, stating know nothing but just go ahead with repair. Refused to give out any supervisor or contact information. They provided NTB 06-040, which says to reprogram the ABS, not anything about the brake booster which is what I was told to replace. I asked if they could reimburse diagnostic fee and I would go elsewhere. Refused to do anything.
It's parked in my driveway, luckily it's a 3 rd vehicle. Nissan needs to recall these vehicles!
No idea where to go from here as its not yet interfering with running of the vehicle. I also notice the class action lawsuit one member mentioned is 2 years old but no update.
Thanks to the forum though as will print off the entire thing to slap in the face of the first service guy who pleads ignorance to the issue. I think I will also do as suggested and record letters /emails sent to Nissan Corp about the issue in case an accident happens in the future.
I was told that I needed new tyres badly (when the last engine light came on) and that it would wear my brake pads and rotors quickly if I don't, which I don't think is quite right and they discovered a steering fluid leak which cost me $1000 which again I can't confirm if I needed or not but am now not comfortable even taking it to the dealer after reading the dog chasing tail posts here.
Will ask husband to look at pads this weekend (we did discs and rotors a couple of years ago but only now realize this is a Nissan error and thought just normal wear out)
I did have the recall engine control module relay replaced just recently does anyone think it could be connected?