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  • geepersgeepers Member Posts: 93
    Undercoating . . . bad. This sums it up.

    http://cartalk.cars.com/Columns/Archive/1996/September/10.html

    My Chevy pickup manual says it could void the warranty. Still they tried to sell it to me, sigh. Scotchguard on a Wrangler ! ! ! Dirt is a badge of honor. Heck, the mayor is even putting dents in his ride.
  • geepersgeepers Member Posts: 93
    is a patient dog. Thanks for the pic.

    Gary
  • drosketerdrosketer Member Posts: 203
    Yeah, heard that one before too. Excellent... no rust-proofing/undercoating. No Scotchguarding. No anything else. Hey, makes my life simpler! :-)

    Must... wait... patiently...

    Andrew
     - Cute pic Tom.
  • mtngalmtngal Member Posts: 1,911
    Must say that Ross Allen is better looking than a boxer and an Irish Wolfhound I saw today. Though the chinchilla (a live one) was cute and so soft! Tom, make sure you give that pup a hug from me.

    Andrew - it sounds like you've got a good deal on that Rubi so taking a bit of a hit (as long as you can afford it) wouldn't be that big of a deal. I'll most likely try to trade in my Taco when I can afford to - I'm not going to get much for it anyway, and I'd rather not have to try to sell it myself. When I sold the Nissan I put in the ad "after 6pm" and would come home every day to dozens of phone messages. I was really surprised how many calls I got on it - granted, I didn't ask much for it but I made a point to say it needed tranny work. In fact, I sold it the first day and it was towed off the next day (the tranny was VERY dead). The calls kept coming in for 2 weeks! If I can possibly afford it, I'd rather trade the Taco - I'm willing to "pay" for the convenience of the dealer getting rid of it.
  • drosketerdrosketer Member Posts: 203
    I see your point. I've recently taken an ad out in a publication but thus far there has been no interest (unlike the last time I did this) - so in some ways I wish I had the problem of people calling in all the time, but definitely with you on the convenience of letting the dealer deal with unloading the car. I'm just a little skeptical of what they'll offer for it. I suspect not much as it's about to turn 10 years old... Ah well, nothing I can do about it so no point in worrying!

    Andrew
  • tsjaytsjay Member Posts: 4,591
    Hey, if that Bird is paid for, and I would assume it is, since it is nearly 10 years old, it might be a good idea to keep it anyway. It's really pretty nice to have a second vehicle. Maybe you would STILL have another vehicle to drive, even if you sold the Bird?

    It has worked out real well for me to have that little S-10 to drive to work.

    I can leave Thelma Jane topless and doorless and keep her in the garage, if it is raining or threatening rain.

    I get better gas mileage, of course, with the S-10 too.

    Also, driving the truck has kept the mileage down on Thelma Jane. I have put 33,000 miles on that S-10 since I bought it, and all of those miles would have been on Thelma Jane otherwise. So, instead of having a Jeep with 39K miles on it, I would have had a Jeep with 72K miles on it, if I hadn't had the truck.

    Hey, Thelma Jane WAS my daily driver for the first seven months that I had her, and I had no problem at all using her like that. It's just that it made sense to put miles on an old truck instead of a new Jeep. The S-10 had 134K miles on it when I bought it, so depreciation really wasn't a factor at all as I racked up those 33K miles that I have put on it.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • tsjaytsjay Member Posts: 4,591
    Gotta take a trip to Cambridge, Ontario, today. Will be flying into Toronto and renting a car to drive to Cambridge. Gotta see a customer there tomorrow.

    So, TURN UP THE HEAT!

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?

    P.S. Please stop using that darned Celsius scale for your outdoor temperatures! Geez! It says I can expect temperatures down to -18 degrees (with the wind chill factor)! That sounds WAY TO COLD! That converts to 0 degrees Farenheit, and even that doesn't sound good, so you don't have to make it worse! :)
  • tsjaytsjay Member Posts: 4,591
    Oh, I forgot to mention that I believe I have overcome the language barrier, so that shouldn't be a problem when I get to Canada, eh?

    :)

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • colorado1974colorado1974 Member Posts: 177
    Anybody have experience with the tummy-tucker skid plates on the Rubicons?
  • mac24mac24 Member Posts: 3,910
    Not personally, but if you have the need and the cash it seems a sensible way to go.

    I expect you already have it, but for anyone else interested, here's a link:

    http://www.nthdegreemobility.com/tt.htm
  • mtngalmtngal Member Posts: 1,911
    My (Canadian born) husband wants to ask you which would you prefer - cold and crisp or warm and icy? Also he suggested visiting LL Bean's web site...

    We took a look at the new car dealers today and I really can't make up my mind. The new Prius looks very nice, has comfortable seats and you can't argue with 50 mpg with my 150 mile daily commute. On the other hand, that new Ford F-150 extended cab truck is very appealing - comfortable also, easy to handle and adjustable pedals are wonderful for "vertically challenged" people like me. But wait - I love the practical interior of the Element. And then there's the WRX that mixes FUN with the ability to get through snow easily. Now how's that for vehicles to compare??!!!?? If I can't make up my mind, perhaps I should just get a second Wrangler - at least I KNOW that I love them...
  • drosketerdrosketer Member Posts: 203
    Oh yes, the Bird is paid for. I thought about keeping both, but since neither is particularly practical I think I'd be better off getting my Rubi, dumping off the Bird and eventually getting something more practical... like a Unimog! ;-)

    Turn up the heat? In Canada? In winter? They grow 'em potent down there, eh? lol. I haven't checked what the weather is supposed to be like down East, but in Edmonton it's chilly enough. No cold snaps yet, but those usually don't hit until late December and then in January. Have a good trip though... and remember, don't lick any metal posts while you're up here, eh?!

    Mtngal, plenty of choices out there. Although I am not keen on the styling, you can also get some pretty decent mileage out of the Nissan Murano(?) along with room and awd...

    Andrew
  • mtngalmtngal Member Posts: 1,911
    I haven't really liked any Nissan since they went to the Frontier. That old '88 Hardbody pickup of mine was great - it was 11 years old and had 290,000 miles on it when the new owner towed it off (that was the dead tranny). The engine was still in great shape.

    I'm hoping that my Wrangler will last the same way!
  • erickplerickpl Member Posts: 2,735
    Well, I checked out my TJ's problems as reported by a 17 year old... typical. Exageration. There was some hesitation in the acceleration, but there was no problem I could find while driving. I put in some STP engine treatment and filled up with Chevron Supreme to clean things up. No more than an hour after putting it in, the STP went to work and the hesitation is gone.

    We'll be putting in some cleaner gas for a while, but at 1.99 9/10 per gallon, we'll probably go back to midgrade or the cheap stuff at Chevron.

    As for the gauge, is there any way to fix it? Will it involved dropping the tank to fix something in there? If that is the case, we'll get used to using the trip odo. :)

    -Paul
  • mac24mac24 Member Posts: 3,910
    Chevron Supreme isn't any cleaner than the other grades, it's just higher octane, which helps overcome pre-ignition but does nothing for hesitation. Just use the recommended grade (87 octane), unless you have a pre-ignition problem.

    There was a fix for the sender on the '97. You can get a dealer to bring up on their computer whether it was fixed under warranty. However, it wasn't always successful. The fuel gauge isn't directly linked the sender in the tank. The fuel sender signals the PCM which in turn tells the fuel gauge what to display. Filling by odometer reading is a good plan. I like to do it when about a quarter of a tank remains.
  • wildbl1500wildbl1500 Member Posts: 48
    Well, we have had a great snowy weekend up here in the Pine Tree State (home of L.L.BEAN). I have decided that the 30" standard issue goodyears have to go as soon I can afford some BFG T/A KOs.

    Also, it was quite an adventure to find some 13" winter wiper blades at the local parts stores.

    I am not used to having a vehicle climb over the snow instead of through it like my Ram. What a change!

    I don't know about anybody else, but ice builds up awful at the bottom of the windshield. DC
    should have put in some defrost elements in there!

    -Bill

    Don't turn up the heat, crank up the snow!
  • nolid5nolid5 Member Posts: 148
    I live just north of Boston and we have 33" on the ground.

    Mtngal, we definitely have enough to share if you can find a way to come pick it up.:)

    Rich
  • mtngalmtngal Member Posts: 1,911
    I wish! Do you think FedEx would be able to send us some? We had a bit of rain last night - there's no snow anywhere around me (sigh). Though 33" is a bit much - I got my Wrangler stuck in 30" of wet snow that fell overnight one night a couple of years ago. I didn't shovel, the snow packed under the frame and I got high centered. It was a great excuse to stay home that day (I later heard they had over 100 cars stuck on the interstate). There's a huge difference between big snowfalls in the east and snow in SoCal!
  • tjraytjray Member Posts: 38
    It was almost a top down day down here in the sunbelt, over 65 degrees today. I would love a few inches of snow down here. Maybe by Christmas! Anyway, a couple weeks ago I got some new headlights for Ol Red. I never was happy with the stock ones, they're like me, not too bright! The new ones are Sylvania Silverstars and they are quite a bit brighter and it is a brilliant white light that makes regular halogens look dingy yellow. Not very expensive either. -Another happy Jeeper- TjRay
  • shortbusshortbus Member Posts: 3
    Just bought an '04 Solar Yellow Columbia Edition on Friday and I have a qustion for any kayakers out here. I was wondering what the best way to carry one is. I'm looking at the overhead racks like the Congo Cage or the Olympic Dave's Rack combined with a Yakima system to actually hold the boat, are there any other options I'm missing that might be a little cheaper as I don't have a whole lot of spare $$ lying around right now? Thanks for any help
  • tsjaytsjay Member Posts: 4,591
    Congrats on that new Jeep!

    Don't have any info for ya on the kayak rack, but I just wanted to welcome you and congratulate you.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • wildbl1500wildbl1500 Member Posts: 48
    Being the new owner of a Wrangler myself, I was wondering how to carry my Canoe this spring.

    The only product I have found is Lange Original's "The Rack" on 4wd.com . Looks like a good product, (it should be for the price- $367.95) but having the rack rest on the spare tire seems like a hassle. I'm thinking of getting a heavy duty light bar for the front and possibly have someone weld me up a bar to slip into the receiver hitch in the rear.

    Post a note if you find a inexpensive product that will work and I'll do the same!

    -Bill
  • wildbl1500wildbl1500 Member Posts: 48
    We got about 2 feet or so of accumulation down in the foothills, but 41" up the the Rangeley area about an hour north. I can't wait for a few colder nights to get the ponds solid, load up my Arctic Cat and get up there!

    Hey, has anyone attended a Jeep Jamboree? I am thinking of attending the Maine Mountain Jamboree next October. I don't really have any off-road experience, just some rough logging road driving. It seems kind of expensive to attend the event though. I guess I have enough time to save my pennies.

    -Bill.
  • tjraytjray Member Posts: 38
    My wife and I went to the spring Ozark mtn. Jamboree in Potosi,MO and had a great time! I new I was in the right place when we pulled into our motel and the parking lot was packed with Jeeps everywhere! The area is postcard scenic, it is part of the Mark Twain Nat'l forest,and the trails are at the nearby Sayersbrook Bison ranch,which is a beautiful, first class operation. The trails were the most challenging I've ever attempted, mostly because of heavy rains the night before the event. It was a muddy winchfest! My skidplates got plenty of use on the abundant rocks, there were stream crossings and a Jeep 101 course where one guy rolled his CJ off a small muddy hill into the mud pit! There were a couple of Liberty's that had so much trouble they had to be towed out of the woods and one had scraped a hole in his oil pan. I think their stock tires weren't agressive enough for the muddy conditions. We really enjoyed the comradery and recommend the Jamboree experience to anyone who loves Jeeps and the outdoors. Keep the shiny side up! -TjRay
  • 01r101r1 Member Posts: 280
    I use a little utility trailer for my kayaks. It seems like there's usually 2-4 of us that go and I just throw the boats and all the gear in the trailer. I didn't want to try that much weight above my roof (a lifted Wrangler) and also didn't want to block the sun when the top is off. YMMV.

    Welcome aboard!

    -Pete
  • sbindleysbindley Member Posts: 28
    I see that 235/70-16's are a direct replacement size tires on 16" rims for my 95 Wrangler. Will 245/75-16's fit on a Jeep with no lift? Same tires, same price, just a little more rubber, but I won't do it if they rub.
  • erickplerickpl Member Posts: 2,735
    I've seen racks at JCWhitney and DPGOffroad that will carry kayaks/canoes on either a hard or soft top. A couple of them will even flip over the back of the Wrangler to act as a sunshade if you put a tarp on them. Legs are available too so it doesn't strain the connections to the car. Lights can be installed on them as well. Not sure on pricing though.

    -Paul
  • twylietwylie Member Posts: 619
    We have a couple of SOTs that we use on local lakes and on the FL Gulf. I looked into rack solutions for the Jeep but the best quality solutions are all in the $500+ range. For the same money, I bought a utility trailer that works great for the SOTs and gets used for other hauling duties behind the Jeep and the Explorer. Like Pete, I didn't want to miss out on the sunshine overhead. The trailer is a Snowbear and we got ours at Home Depot. Really slick design - allows for a 12' load floor by dropping the front and rear gates, the bed can be tilted to drive a 4x4 or mower on, and the axle can be located in two locations depending on how much tongue weight you need for the load.

    http://www.ewylie.com/images/kayak/destin020916/P9191601.JPG

    -twylie
  • texasjeeptexasjeep Member Posts: 270
    I think everyone should try to go on one Jamboree. It may not be for everyone but I really enjoy the experience. The cost is definitely high but so far I am still willing to pay it. Some jamborees have a Jeep 101 course for beginners. A lot of the Jeepers are new to off-roading and just go on the regular trails. Some Jamborees are easier than others and the trail ratings do not seem to be accurate. The trail guides are there to help you and make sure you have a good time. Just ask for some guidance if you have any doubts or a bypass if you don't want to do something.
    I have some pics and video and hopefully I will get some posted soon.
    I think Mayor Tom needs to go on one. They have 3 in KY. I will drive up for it if he does. Tom could also find a bunch of other Jeepers to go wheeling with on the weekends.
  • mac24mac24 Member Posts: 3,910
    16" rims on a '95 are a little unusual. Are you sure they're sixteens?
  • sbindleysbindley Member Posts: 28
    The wheels are aftermarket 16 x 8"
  • mac24mac24 Member Posts: 3,910
    In that case the answer depends on the offset, or backspacing, of the wheels. See if the tire store will let you try them out in their parking lot, to see if they rub. It's not an unreasonable request.
  • coakleysdcoakleysd Member Posts: 32
    I am in need of a new or rebuilt engine for my 1994 Wrangler. I reside in Baltimore, MD and if any of you have info on a reputable repair/installer, please let me know.
  • drosketerdrosketer Member Posts: 203
    Went over to my dealer to find out if there was an update on the status of my baby. Found out she's still in "D1", but they already have an estimated shipping date... Dec.15th. Meaning I won't see her (likely) until right around the New Year... which seems somewhat appropriate!! :-)

    Here's hoping that the timeline is feasible.

    Andrew
  • tsjaytsjay Member Posts: 4,591
    Oh baby! The waiting is gonna get even tougher as the you get closer to delivery.

    I guess you're gonna track the progress during the shipping phase? You been to twylie's site and found out how to track the rail shipment?

    Keep us posted!

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • jptjjptj Member Posts: 53
    My wife had 31x10.5x 15 on her 91 with a 2" body lift they did not rub when she went off road I lower the YJ to a 1” body lift and had to go down to 30x.950x15 for clearness. Looking up the 245x75x16 I see that they are about the same size 30.5 v 30.7 so I believed that you would need a lift kit. You can put 30x9.50x 15 on a stock YJ if you are not planning to go off road.
    Walt
  • tsjaytsjay Member Posts: 4,591
    I can't believe it has been three years since I picked up Thelma Jane! It was December 8, 2000, when I got the call and rushed over to the dealer to pick her up.

    AIN'T NO OTHER VEHICLE IN THE WORLD THAT I COULD OWN FOR THREE YEARS AND STILL BE SO EXCITED ABOUT!

    Yeeeeeeeeeehawwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Just made payment #36, so still two years to go. It feels so good to have a vehicle that I can pay completely off and know that I will still be thrilled with it at the end of the payments.

    I can see some serious mods coming when the payments are done with. Still want to keep her very much street worthy, but there will be some goodies for her.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • mtngalmtngal Member Posts: 1,911
    Andrew - Waiting isn't any fun at all, but when it ends, it will be SO nice! Hang in there!

    Tom - Congrats on the 3 years! What a difference between vehicles - you are now celebrating the fact that you are over half way to having her paid off and owned outright. I, on the other hand, recently celebrated the 3 year anniversary of the buying the Taco. I'm excited about that because I am getting closer to being on the right side of the note and I'll be able to finally dump it...

    Aren't Wranglers so much fun! I celebrated getting the pink slip for my Noble Black Steed by fixing the dash gauges, and perhaps this weekend he'll get a bath (he needs it after the St. George trip). It's a Jeep day forecast today - they are talking snow levels at 5,000 feet. Hooray!
  • jacknimblejacknimble Member Posts: 171
    Is there something wrong with autologin? I thought at first it was cookie settings on my computer, but I've noticed that it does not work on any of my computers, including a brand-spanking new one. Host?
  • dchristo1dchristo1 Member Posts: 59
    Looking for help on deciding to buy a used 98 or later Jeep Wrangler vs a new 04 "X" or Sport model. Most of the used jeeps I have looked at are at the 30k-51k mile range and was wondering about reliability, problems and concerns. Also wanted to know what options that all you Jeep Junkies would consider invaluable.

    Thanks in advice.

    Future Jeep Junkie
  • tidestertidester Member Posts: 10,059
    Is there something wrong with autologin?

    Not that I am aware of. I'm sure you've done this but are you sure you're clicking the "accept" settings link after you've done the login? You might also try clearing your browser's cache as that occasionally can lead to problems.

    tidester, host
  • erickplerickpl Member Posts: 2,735
    I purchased a 97 TJ with 81,000 and paid under 7,000 for it.

    It was not in perfect condition, but workable. The biggest issue was the exhaust manifold, which was cracked and had a leak. I had to replace it, then a week later, the catalytic died. That was not fun. But other than that, I've done all my repairs myself.

    97 and 98's had the most issues with the exhaust. After 98, I think things are a lot better. With the repairs and mods I've done, the Jeep is a good reliable vehicle.

    Here's what I've done, some required, some not:
    1. Replaced top (leaking) with Sailcloth Replace-a-top.
    2. Replaced carpeting
    3. Added Seat Covers
    4. Installed Soundbar with 6x9's
    5. New Stereo
    6. Door Sill Guards
    7. Repair - Valve Cover Seals - EASY
    8. Repair - Replaced leaking Radiator - EASY to Moderate (fixed with tightening hoses better)
    9. Replaced SE Wheels with Canyons and 30x9.5 BFG AT KO's
    10. New lights and fog lamps (install soon, but ordered)

    You can see the car at http://community.webshots.com/user/skimblz_ to see how it ended up.

    Once those repairs were done, it has been driving great. I suspect most of those repairs came about because previous owners didn't do routine maintenance, so when looking, check into that.

    Based on my experiences, when you look at a used TJ, check for:

    1. Scraped underside to indicate offroading
    2. Check the differentials (both on the pumpkin side and on the driveshaft side to check for leaks. That may be an issue for tranny reliability, IMO.
    3. Check the engine compartment to check for other leaks (oil, coolant, etc). Some may be easy to fix, some may not be - it depends.

    For a best bet, a stock TJ would probably represent a better value. A modded TJ would probably have been used offroad and you may not necessarily know how much it had been abused.

    You CAN find a great TJ even in the 30-50k range. I live in soCal and I put 30,000 on a car per YEAR! My 2002 BMW already has 52,000+ on it, my 2000 JGC has 82,000. Mileage isn't always an indicator on wear. Almost all my miles are highway (80+ percent). My 1999 Civic had 94,000 miles on it when I sold it, but it had the original brake pads with over 60% of the pad left. Go figure.

    Good luck and let us know what you find.

    -Paul
  • drosketerdrosketer Member Posts: 203
    Thanks Tom and Mtngal! Luckily it's a pretty busy time of the year, so the waiting is made somewhat easier...

    Tom, I did check out Twylie's site... I just might try and track it that way. Almost willing to let it be a surprise (I'd hate to get my hopes up and then encounter a delay)... Last but not least, congrats on passing the 3 year mark.

    In regards to mods... what sort of mods can you put in without voiding the warranty? I haven't looked into it, but suspect I may have to go pretty well mod-free for the duration of the warranty (and an extensive one that is). Was thinking that eventually I'd like to put in the EMU HD lift, ARB bull bar (I like the look of it and it has a great location for mounting the winch), the Safari snorkel (don't ask!), dual battery mount... and probably a ton of others that escape my mind (like seat heaters for our cold, cold winters).

    Also, does anyone know if you can use the Rubi's lockers air-compressor to air up tires? I know this is a possibility with the ARB locker compressor, but aren't sure if that is the case with the Rubi.

    Thanks in advance,
    Andrew
  • mac24mac24 Member Posts: 3,910
    Making mods won't affect your entire warranty but may nullify the coverage on related parts.

    For example, you're struggling back to the dealer with a blown 'u' joint on your factory drivetrain, when your aftermarket high output alternator fries itself and PCM (powertrain control module). There should be no problem getting the 'u' joint and any related damaged parts replaced under warranty. However, the alternator, and all the expensive related parts, will not be covered.

    Conversely, you're struggling back to the dealer with a blown 'u' joint, but you recently fitted a lift and larger tires. On the way, your factory alternator fries itself and your PCM. This time it's unlikely you'll get warranty coverage on any of your drivetrain parts, but the electrical repair will be picked up under warranty.

    It's a fairly commonsense system that's fair to both the customer and the manufacturer.
  • erickplerickpl Member Posts: 2,735
    Okay, I have to ask... :) What's the snorkel going to be used for? :)

    -Paul
  • sbindleysbindley Member Posts: 28
    I went with the 235/70-16's, which I know fite fine.

    Thanks for the help
  • mtngalmtngal Member Posts: 1,911
    I have a '98 that I bought new, and the only thing I would add to Paul's comments is that I had a problem with my dash gauges. They would occasionally completely disappear and the air bag light would come on. It turned out to be a very easy fix - did it myself with some help from a friend.

    The exhaust manifold is a very expensive repair - cost me $800 and I've heard of dealers asking $1200 for it. If you go with a '97 or '98, make sure you check it! They redesigned the part in something like 2000 so later models (and ones where it has been replaced) won't have the problem.

    Mine has something like 115,000 miles on the odometer and it is still great. In fact, we drove it today since they were talking about a 5,000 foot snow level. I missed it, though (urrr!). The snow started after I got to work, and it will probably all melt before I get home (looked like it was clearing off on the webcam). Oh well, it gave me a great excuse to drive the Wrangler today!

    P.S. The rubber on the back tailgate has dried out and needs to be replaced. That is probably due to our very dry climate, so I wouldn't worry about it if you live in a more humid spot.
  • tsjaytsjay Member Posts: 4,591
    Welcome!

    You should buy new, if there is any way you can afford it. I say that not because I am afraid of the reliability of the TJs, but because of all the current incentives, not the least of which is the 7 year/ 70,000 mile warranty.

    Also, you will find that a used Jeep Wrangler holds its value very well, which is good if you are selling one, but not if you are buying one.

    If you do go used, there is no more risk in buying a TJ than there would be with any other used vehicle, and maybe even less. I think the reliability is just fine.

    If you plan on ever doing more than mild off roading, you probably should make it a point to get a Jeep that has the Dana 44 rear end. They are stronger than the Dana 35s and will allow you to install bigger tires and a locker without being in constant fear of breaking an axle shaft.

    If you can afford the time, reading a LOT of the old posts in here should give you a real good education on what's important and what's not so important as far as model choice and options.

    Ask any specific questions you may have, but in order to give you a good answer, we will need to know how you plan to use the Jeep. Will it be on the pavement almost exclusively? Will it get off roaded much? How severe will the off roading be? What is the climate where you live? Will the Jeep be driven mostly in town, or will it see lots of highway miles? All of these things are factors that need to be considered in your choices.

    We'll help ya any way we can. We LOVE to talk Jeep around here! :)

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • tsjaytsjay Member Posts: 4,591
    You don't have to wait until your warranty expires to do mods. Like Mac24 said, they cannot deny your warranty for a part that is totally unrelated to any mods that you have installed.

    You DO bear the risk of being denied warranty coverage for a problem that legitimately can be attributed to a modification that you have made. That is only reasonable.

    There is even a law here in the US (don't know about up there in Canada) called the Moss-Magnusson Act that prevents dealers from denying warranty coverage unless they have a legitimate case that a modification made to the product caused the failure. I'll bet there is a similar law in the books up there in Canada too.

    It's a good idea to establish a good working relationship with the service manager at a dealership nearby. Those guys can really go to bat for you and do you some favors. They are blasted by lots of people on the Net, but there are some very competent, very friendly service managers out there that are willing to go out of their way to help you.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
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