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Tons of $30k cars don't have push button start including the TSX, Accord, MKZ, etc. Many of the luxury cars that offer this feature don't even offer it as standard equipment.
If the 2.0T has a decent 0-60 time, as you surmise, then it may be a go.
Looking forward to seeing and driving it.
Push button start IS a gimmick!
I see your point. It would possibly be more convenient than a conventional key but is it ultimately yet another electronic gadget to cause problems sometime in the future?
The experience with new electronic parts in many recent cars (e.g. i-Drive in BMWs) has not necessarily been a happy one.
Your thoughts?
Since the insignia lacks push button start I wouldnt expect it on regal anytime soon.
When Lutz made those comments it was likely before he knew GM would go bankrupt. They can make money on cars that wouldn't have been profitable before.
Just for reference a loaded Camry is about $32k and a loaded Mazda6 is close to $33k. The TSX V6 starts at $35k+. I don't think the turbo is overpriced.
$35k isnt a lot of money these days for a loaded midsize luxury sedan. A loaded Maxima is close to $38k BTW so I suppose many prospective Maxima owners would be smart to buy a G37x instead. Other cars in this price range are the Avalon (starts at $33K) and the Taurus SEL/Limited. There are numerous "lesser" vehicles that would cost more than the $32k TMV figure you have for a G37x.
I also had the chance to try the back seat. I did the "sit behind myself" test on the drivers side and was impressed - I was quite happy back there even with the drivers seat at a comfortable setting, a real surprise. Then on the passenger side I set the front seat to a setting that was a bit more forward than the drivers seat was, but still quite good for comfort. Sitting behind myself on that side was great -- scads of legroom, an amazing amount actually. Combine that with the massive trunk and the Regal does very well for space utilization.
I like this car very much. I can't wait to drive a turbo model.
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
That said, there will be lower trim lines coming when production starts in Oshawa so hopefully a CX turbo will be available.
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
The small block V-8 in the Impala is already gone.
GM, if you are listening, don't sacrifice your affordable performance cars upon the altar of minimally higher mileage for if you do you will lose many of your loyal customers as there are and will be many of us who will not trade driving fun for that unproven green agenda.
Another interior color will probably be added next year.
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
Black does show lint but its more of an issue on the dash than the seats.
I am hoping that the supply catches up quickly so these cars can be had for good prices. I've read that Buick dealers aren't discounting the Regal. With MSRP at 35K and Southern California sales taxes the Regal Turbo will find itself in a similarly equipped G37 territory and priced above a TL FWD w/Tech.
TSX 2.4L with nav- $33,270
TSX v6 with nav- $38,810
TL 3.5L with nav and 18s- $40,695.
Even if you account for discounting its hard to see the Regal turbo being more expensive than the V6 TSX or TL. The loaded Regal comes with 19s, the IDCS, music HD, Onstar, 8 airbags, 12 way front seats (TSX has 4 way seat) and a larger trunk than the TSX or TL. The only thing you get on the Acuras is memory seats and homelink which arent on the Buick.
I can't comment on the features since those are pretty subjective based on individual wants or needs. I for one would love to have key less entry since I'm always carrying food or grocery when I get to my car. It would be great if I don't have to put them down so I can get the keys out of my pocket. I also need an advanced navigation since I'm the type of person who gets lost everywhere I go.
Don't get me wrong, I drove a 2.4L and really liked the car besides the lack of power. The only car I found to have more fitting seats for my body is the CC. I have to be honest to say that the seats fit my frame better than all the other cars I've test driven, the TSX, TL, G37, Mazda6 to name a few.
Now I hope by early next year Buick lots would be filled with Regals so the prices can come down. If I can get a Turbo with TO7 package for 32OTD then it just might blow a lot of its competitors out of the water.
By next year I'm sure some incentives will be offered and prices will come down but I wouldnt expect any miracles. The Lacrosse has been out for over a year and incentives have been minimal.
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I know there wouldn't be much discounts which say I emphasized that pricing might be an issue at this point in time. Let's move away from the pricing right now since we really don't know how much a loaded Turbo would really sell for. The dealership I went to didn't how much is going to cost them either so they couldn't give me any kind of numbers.
The TSX V6 has push start. Tech Packaged TLs have push start too. The TL with 18" I got quoted includes the tech package and it does come with power lumbar via 10 way driver's power seats. The Acuras come with more features that "I want" so you can say I'm biased when it comes to features.
I was underestimating the incentives on the TL, I guess they are really making an effort to move product. I believe the styling is a major factor there. Other than push button start and memory I'm not aware of any significant features on the Acuras in spite of their premium prices. I know for a fact the Lacrosse CXS(which matches up better with TL in size and price) offers more equipment than the TL. If I was in the market to spend $35k I might actually get the Lacrosse CXS over the Regal turbo. The main reason I got the regal is because for $30k its better equipped than the Lacrosse and I would want the 3.6L V6 if I got the Lacrosse which means spending at least $34k.
Some good info, but still confused, especially why they would modify it and still call it Epsilon.
First was Epsilon, then extended Epsilon. Supposedly the extended was used under some 08 Malibu which had two wheelbase longer one under the wagon which matches WB for current. It would take more digging to find out for sure which Epsilon.
And more confusing is that it says the Regal is on an Epsilon 2. So what exactly is it?
It hints that the Malibu might move to an Epsilon 2 and in the works is a super Epsilon for large vehicles. The Lucerne going away to become a new Park Ave eventually and it and the Impala will have the Super E. But that is so far down the road they hint the Impala will be on an intermediary platform, Maybe the Epsilon 2.
Confused!
The Regal is the Insignia which means its on EP2 platform. If any Buick larger than the Lacrosse shows up it will be a RWD car, not an epsilon car.
Compared to the CC the regal's advantages are better equipment in the base model, 5 seat capacity, 18" wheels standard, larger trunk and onstar. My friends have a CC luxury and its a very sharp car BUT for nearly $28k you dont get features such as XM, auto climate control, 18" wheels, USB connection, etc. All of that is standard on the Regal for $27k.
The article did not say if the Super Epsilon was for RWD, FWD, or AWD.