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And why wouldn't Ford "honor" the Toyota warranty, Toyota's money is as good as any other.....
Mercury Sable and Ford Taurus were the "same" car.
Just a thought, 'cause I certainly agree that someone who wants to watch a movie while driving is plain dangerous. I used to crack up, years ago, when I was an accident reconstructionist, at the people who read books in commute traffic (way before text and cell phones...). Responded to plenty of those rear-enders and just used to shake my head. I still see the face of this one lady who was actually reading 'War & Peace'...now there's a page turner.... :surprise:
Who sits, and why, in a parked car watching a DVD content...?
Like you, I still don't get it; however, I certainly do not profess to understand the intricacies of sanity and how that relates to personal satisfaction in owning something that seems "not very useful", at least IMHO (and you seem to agree...).
On forum topic, I am very glad that our Avy's don't have that feature. IF I sit in the car in a parking lot waiting for the wife, I am certainly content to put the seat back and enjoy a bluetooth Pandora stream via my Blackberry into the superb stereo that Toyota has provided to us....or just a nice CD or Sat channel....those quickie naps always do me good! :shades:
I am also impressed with all the options. In fact being a new comer to the Avalon I've learned some of the options this vehicle has. Did I say I have the Limited? LTD model. Floating head lights. boy, what a blast and such a surprised. Imagine having that option in the 60's. Love the automatic wipers. Extension on the seat is really a plus for a big person like me. So many things and such a comfortable car to drive. Even after a long trip you don't seem so tired. I now wish I bought the navigation system, even if it doesn't play DVD's. Anyway here is a link to show most options.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1MKYnPem54
I think everyone will enjoy this you tube and maybe someone will learn something new. TC,
1. 9266 miles driven by me......128 miles was driving car from Kirkland WA to Aberdeen WA
2. Total gallons of gas purchased......357.14
3. Total cost for gas........$1017.85
4. Average cost for the 357.14 gallons of gas....$2.85
5. Mileage......25.94 MPG
I have gotten as high as 31+ mpg and as low as 21.5 mpg...like a few others, I love the 6-speed transmission and have been know to "hot rod".
Car will go over 105 mph and still had petal. 268 HP is awesome....would have been something special in the 60's..........quickness and great gas mileage.....I remember gas at 13.9.
Can tell you for sure that straight gas, without the ethanol, will get you 2 - 3+ miles per gallon more but you spend more for "straight gas", IF YOU CAN EVEN FIND IT.
I agree with you on the straight gas. I always figured it cost me about 2 mpg to use ethanol. I don't ever have a problem getting straight gas until I travel out of state. Around my home straight gas costs from 4-10 cents more per gallon. Even paying a dime more per gallon you will still come out sligthly ahead if you only gain 1 mpg. Gaining 2.5 mpg will save you around $7.00 dollars per 1,000 miles.
We have zero type weather now and I see that this is going to greatly affect the mileage. Until the car warms up the mileage really suffers. The other morning I was on level ground for the first two miles and driving carefully and the mileage show between 13 and 16. The choke must of been wide open. The next around 20 miles was in the low 20s and then the motor must of warmed up as it started showing about normal. I will be going south the end of this month so hopefully I don't have to drive all that much between now and then.
Anything for the State, to heck with families......
Anything special at the 10,000 mile check up? We don't drive that much. I'm afraid my warranty on the free maintenance will run out before I have anything done.
I have an expensive set of snow tires (Blizzaks) on the FJ; however, we did have some light snow the other day and I was happy with the performance of the OE Michelins on the Avy. I've heard that the OE Bridgestones on the Avy are horrible. There were two Blizzard Pearl Limiteds on the lot when we bought and we went with the car that had the Michelins. Glad I did.
With rising gas prices, I thought perhaps, we should have bought a Prius. I know the cars would be totally different. Comfort for gas mileage. Has anyone owned a Prius out there? I'm not going to run out and do any trading. That would be counter productive and foolish. Especially with the amount of miles I drive. HOWEVER, in a few years, maybe then. MAYBE!
I've done some checking on real gas. There are some real gas stations in SC. Some around here. There is a web site that tells you where all real gas stations are. I do not know how accurate this site is but here is the site for anyone interested. http://pure-gas.org/
My Avalon is running great. I can tell I have the Bridgestone tires with the cold weather, especially when it's cold. I don't believe a set of Michelins would ride like this. The Bridgstones are ok once they warm up. Oh well, life goes on. Merry Christmas everyone, Happy Holidays to everyone.
Oh yea, here is a guy that supposedly is comparing Buick VS. Avalon. He is so bios it's not even funny. Never the less, I had to share with the group.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26zmv7qG9CQ
Motor Trend "Car of the year" ?? Which car is it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEKaSaIEZNg
I have ridden in the rear seat of my neighbor's new Buick
The comparison with the lacross was really funny. The storage doors don't shut unitl they shut.
Spent a few days out of town last week and the town I was in got about 6 inches of snow. We spent the day and early evening driving around town before the plows had run. I was really impressed out the avy handed the snow. It will take me some getting used to as the tires don't spin like I'm accustomed to. You give it more gas and it just doesn't feel like you're going to gain anything but it just keep chugging along. Sure is different in a good way.
Now a sore spot. I called my dealer Monday and told them I though 7 months was long enough to figure out how to fix a compass. I told them I was going south for the winter the end of the month and I wanted a compass and I was going to start calling people until I got one. They think they can get something done so I'm giving them a week and if not I may not get it fixed but they will be busy answering consumer bureaus, lawyers, senator and representatives. If anyone knows of anyone else I should contact please let me know.
I'll be coming up for my first oil change soon. I have a coupon for free pin strips, so I'll probably have them both done then. Anyone in here have pin strip there car?? My Avalon is silver, with gray interior, and of course those attractive black floor mats. I use to sell cars and had a gray set mats left over from my Cadillac Alante (1992 model). I kept them for a souvenir, when I sold the car. Glad I did. Long story why I kept the mats. I recently put those mats in my Avalon. Really nice mats, thick and GRAY!
On you tube the comparison was silly. The center console does adjust on the Avalon LTD, model, the only thing I seen about the Buick I liked was access to the truck through the back seats. The lights in the Buick seemed nice. I would think the Avalon would smoke the Buick in a 0-60. Anyone know? I've also heard about bad gas mileage in the Buick Lacross. Plus dealing in cars, trust me on this. Toyota resell value is hard to beat.
Are the two position adjustable rear seat backs still available?
I said the only thing I liked about the Buick was access to the truck through the back seat. By letting the seat down. HOWEVER, I forgot all about the reclining rear seat. I"m always driving. Any problems with your 07? Just curious. Take care and Happy Holidays.
I think their rule is if it ain't broke, break it.
My grandpa owned a 64 Chevy Impala maybe a 63 with a 327, 2 speed transmission. Going 20 to 30 mile per hour that car would kick down to first gear and outrun most cars for a few miles. After 70 you would need a third gear which it didn't offer. Great car, with an odd transmission.
I owned a Dodge with a slant 6, my wife always asked why it made that sound. I told her honey, these engines sound like sewing machines, they are simply purring. Not one bit of problems with any of these cars.
Of course when I dabbled in cars. I bought many cars then sold them. However, I did have the luxury of owning some nice cars for a brief time. Impala SS (96 model), Cadillac Allante, (92 model) Both are fine cars and both are very fast. I even had the privilege of driving an NSX produce my Nissan.
The point is the big car companies are always changing. No matter what, I believe it comes down to the almighty buck. My opinion of course. I am one to believe that some things are better left along. I do understand emissions changing, mpg changing, so I can somewhat understand change. Our slant six got a steady 20 mpg and that's 25 to 30 years ago.
The Avalon is a rare breed. I've owned two but one was only a short time. So basically I truly only owned this one. The 6 speed is something else. I really believe if rear wheel drive was offer would be a improvement. I can see that happening in the future. HOWEVER they might not offer that ever because it would cut down the MPG. My opinion it does need RWD. I guess any Lexus owners would know better than me. Well, enough for today.
The worse car I've own was a Rambler.
The vehicle required a TSB transmission reprogram on the 5 speed very soon after I purchased it, and I had my dealer install the all metal VVTI oil line before the issue became a recall (most folks got a rubber line during the recall). Both of these issues have been resolved in later model Avalons (6 speed tranny and metal oil line from the factory).
I didn't understand what you meant about the tranny. WTI oild? Please explain. Thanks, Pop!
Anyway, just thought I'd give those of you who questrioned it an update. My dealer in GA says they will honor it.
I did not get great mileage (25 MPG) but I attribute that to the driving conditions etc. I did find that the AVERAGE MPH display is locked at 35MPH. I will have to take it to the dealer to check on that.
Does anyone but me get irratated that the wiper seems to go one pass too often when you spray the window?
The VVTI oil line failures started happening after Toyota released the current design V-6 engine in 02 or 03. The rubber oil line would fail with no warning and dump all the engine oil on the ground as folks were driving. Toyota had an all metal line for some applications, but the dealers were reluctant to make the change and Toyota would not acknowledge the problem. For the whole sorry story, google "ToyotaV6OilLineScandal". A recall was finally issued, but Toyota replaced the rubber line with a new "improved" rubber line. All new vehicles were built with metal lines starting during the 08 model year.
Toyota has always been reluctant to step up to vehicle issues, but I think they got their wakeup call in the last year or so.
I'm not sure who's giving us the run around on this issue, the dealers or Toyota. I think Toyota is trying to avoid replacing more than they have to thinking they will find a cheaper fix.
Merry Christmas to everyone.
We love the car but sure feel the customer service department at Toyota sucks. Its no wonder everyone is waiting to purchase. This will be our last Toyota because of the way the guy at customer serviced acted with such arrogance.
Also, not sure how you financed, however, at least here in AZ, my friend said that to get the $1k cash back, you HAD TO use the Toyota Motor captive financing at the 'current rate', which was not the 0% but 5.9%, so he said they get you one way or the other on that cash back. If you got a good deal on the finance rate, you may have come out ahead on this one. When I ran our numbers, using the 2.9% we got versus the 5.9% we would have paid, we came out almost $700 ahead, so I would have chosen not to get the $1k cash back. Now, if I could have gotten the 0% instead, I would have saved another $560 or so, so that I would have possibly done. If you paid cash, then it is another story, tho.
We got a good enough deal on ours, tho, that I'm happy either way.
Glad, at least, that you love the car, as we do ours. Did you get the Limited?
Not sure about that one. Stores can change their policies on price matching and returns. Amazon.com used to price match/adjust within 30 days of the sale (on their own prices, too) and refund you the difference. They changed that policy awhile back and no longer do it. Many stores will price match within 15/30 days; however, many do not. I tried looking on Wiki and google for anything on your comment with no success; however, I may not have used the right search terms.
It would be interesting to see if that law does exist....
No matter, it is good business to give the sale price after the fact, or to price match within an certain amount of time...and I would bet that that dealership could've pushed it with Toyota and gotten the incentive through all in the spirit of good customer service....
Which is why Video Only demands that the manufacturer supply them with UNIQUE model numbers.
IF I bought a 2011 Avalon and days later they had a better sale. I would definitely talk to someone. At least give it a shot.
In our search for an Avalon we had to get dealers to compete for my business. I found this method to work much better. Our Best deal come from Atlanta, the dealer I bought my car from a dealer close to me that came within 100 dollars of that low offer I had. But to add a twist to this story I had a trade in. So it wasn't just the low cost of the car but how much I could get in trade on my other Avalon. All in all, I got a good deal. I'm happy with the New Avalon. I bought a used Avalon only to find out it had electrical problems. I didn't feel right taking advantage of someone else. LIKE that woman took advantage of me. Trade it in was my only option. All in all I would have NEVER bought a new 11 if not for that. I'm glad I did and I really like that car. I am very impressed with the buttons, power, mpg, comfort.