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The only thing I can think of is the people that find the headrest intrusive must drive with their necks bent back or with their heads constantly resting on the headrest. If that's the case they may not like it. But for the other 99.9% of us it is just fine. Much ado about nothing IMO.
As far as the '11 Edge. I liked it a lot and it has a lot of features going for it. However, there is still a vast difference in the feel of the materials and quality of the leather, soft surfaces and switches and such versus the old Infiniti SUV I drive now. I don't expect the Ford to be the same as the Infiniti but I was hoping that it would be a little closer. Still a very nice vehicle that I could get used to and is still on my short list.
I found the XC comfy, but it hit my wife wrong, and she partly ruled it out for that reason.
Actually, the bigger drawback (to me) was the darn things are so big and obtrusive that you can't see past them to look behind you.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
BTW, they aren't called head rests. They are head restraints - designed to restrain the rearward momentum of your head in a collision.
Head rests are pillows on your couch and bed.
The way I look at it is a mis-positioned head restraint can be a head rest because one's head will rest on top of it when one's head snaps back at high velocity.
Head restraints should be adjusted so the head strikes it - well head on - at a 0 degree vertical angle. The head snapping back beyond that can lead to injury.
because I test drove 6 new cars in the small crossover class this weekend and this is the only one that I had this problem with.
I agree that the Edge had plenty of good features but the discomfort from this head restraint would prevent me from buying. Maybe women under 6' are not Ford's target market for this car.
For some reason, the icons don't show on my display so my ability to discern internet humor is pretty low.
I consider this feature a total waste of money. A futile attempt to eliminate a self-created blind spot.
Assume I have my mirrors aimed the old way. If the amber light in the mirror is NOT on, is that adequate information for me to safely change lanes? Not for me.
If I am foolish enough to trust that no-amber-light means it's safe for me to change lanes when a vehicle is overtaking me, I'm almost certain to have a collision, or a nasty situation. Why? As I said above, I don't get the amber light until the overtaking vehicle is ~ even with rear bumper. If the vehicle is overtaking me, it's going faster, so will be in "my space" when I change lanes.
Bah! Marketing trumps Engineering again.
The Cross Traffic Indicator, which is included in the same package, seems to be a valuable feature, but I haven't evaluated it yet. I'll check it tomorrow at the mall parking lot.
The Edge? I LOVE it. So far it exceeds expectations. VERY quiet, excellent performance, comfy seats, good ride, excellent handling. Fit & finish as good as I've seen.
Learning SYNC & My Ford Touch is a bit daunting ... like getting a new computer with a different operating system. I'm getting a feel for what they were thinking when designing the system. This should provide a common logic thread as I explore it more.
The manual really needs to have a flow chart showing what happens when a selection is made. I would often have to look at the bottom of the chart to find my desired result, then trace my way upward to see what I have to do. I may create such a chart.
Time to eat & have a beer.
Be well, and do good things.
I agree that it's not really necessary if you aim your mirror properly and glance over your shoulder. But it doesn't hurt to have the extra info. What I do see is a lot of people trying to rationalize wanting it by making it a "must have" safety feature which we both know is bunk.
Glad you like the new Edge. It's not a Lincoln LS, but it's a really nice vehicle.
I agree about the LS. I can't say it's the best car I've ever owned, but it is my favorite.
About a $7k spread... seems pretty high for better leather and the Lincoln name???
One day was ~750 miles, one driver (me). The 2011 Edge is the best, most comfortable mile-eater I've owned. This includes 1996? Lincoln MK VIII, 2000 Lincoln LS. 2001 Lexus GS 430, 2003 Lincoln LS, 2007 Mazda CX-9. Seat comfort is excellent for driver & passenger.
I'll have more to report after we're organized in AZ.
I'll be glad to respond to any questions.
My intent was to compare the Sport Edge, not the Edge Limited,..
to the Lincoln....
as you say ... the Sport is a different animal... but it is still 5k cheaper than the Lincoln, so what is the Lincoln advantage other than the Brand?
Hundreds of thousands of people(many pretty smart and frugal I would think) buy these premium brands for the the total experience and see value in the additional $5k+ these vehicles cost. I don't think that many people would just waste their money if they couldn't tell the difference.
I bought an Infiniti QX4 in 2002 because I got it for only a couple of thousand more than a Nissan Pathfinder due to end of year discounts and the Infiniti dealer was just dealing better. It is mechanically pretty much the same as a Pathfinder but the dealer experience, warranty, quality of materials, fit/finish, etc. were much better/nicer than the Pathfinder. I was happy to pay extra for it and still am after 8 years of ownership.
FWIW, the Lincoln FWD MKX MSRP is $39,995 and the Ford Edge Sport FWD is $36,995....a difference of $3,000.
The MKX is rated at 19/26 mpg and the Edge Sport is rated at 18/25. Some of the things that come standard on the MKX that the Edge Sport doesn't are:
Power liftgate
Drive and passenger auto up/down windows
Univ. Remote transmitter
Remote engine start
Electrochromatic driver side mirror
Cargo area floormat
To be fair there are a couple of things that the Sport has that aren't on the MKX including 22" wheels and steering wheel paddle shifters. After all it is a sport model.
I read at one point that it would be out at the end of the summer. That's now??
like edge/mkx
like jeep grand cherokee
jeep has a rear flipper glass does the edge?
edge will get a turbo which I like any guesses on mileage?
It will appeal to those people who want a mid-size crossover and don't need seating for 7 - the same people targeting by the Outback, Venza, CrossTour, XC60, X6 et al.
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I test drove a Subaru........same problem, which is why I didn't buy the car. I guess I should have read these posts first!
I ended up buying a 2011 Civic, and didn't notice the strain on my neck & shoulders until halfway into a 4 hr. drive. That was REALLY uncomfortable. Guess I'll get a wedge pillow for my car, too.
Next stop New Orleans and a 2011 Ford Edge Limited. This had 11k on it and was a front-drive model. Jumping in, I was impressed by the dashboard graphics and the Sony sound system. Jumping onto I-10 to head for Florida, the Edge settled into an easy and smooth 80+ mph cruise. Very impressed by it's drive, but I liked the Jeep better. The Jeep felt more settled on the interstate and offered better sightlines. Finish and trim on the Ford was very nice but again, a bit below the Jeep in my opinion. The SYNC system was awesome, my i-Phone paired almost instantly and the Sony sound system with Sirius was much better than the Jeep premium system. But, after the initial experience, The Ford's arcade style graphics and touchscreen controls were distracting and much less convenient than the Jeep's traditional controls. Just turning on the seat heater in the Ford required multiple touches on the touch screen and I never figured out the presets on the radio. The Ford returned about 24.5 mpg on the trip, also 80% highway. The V-6 had tons of punch however and felt strong off idle, unlike the Jeep. Both vehicles are about 37k in Limited, 2wd 6 cylinder trim. Given the choice I'd take the Jeep. It's straightforward controls, highway stability and ability to tow more than the Edge give it a leg up. Both are very impressive vehicles however and an owner would be pleased regardless of their choice.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
I'll post it. 4wd systems would really differentiate these two as the jeep's is highly sophisticated and off-road capable, the Edge is really just for foul weather. If 4wd was a must, the jeep wins hands down
No need to wait if you really want to upgrade to aftermarket HIDs. The only danger with aftermarket HIDs is if you fry the smart junction box. It won't affect anything else. Just make sure you get a reputable brand.
EDIT: Also the HID equipped Egde models use D3S also new to me. I'm used to D2R and D2S, and so forth. Definitely going to research some more. Any more info will be gladly appreciated. Thank you!
And I must agree. While I do love technology and all the cool gadgets today, I think it is way overdone in a MOVING VEHICLE. It's just not the right, or safest place to implement such technology, period. It's enough what we already have, it's difficult enough not to be talking or texting or emailing while driving, no eating or drinking, why complicate us even more with such a "intuitive" system? That's too much while driving.
And in general, what was so wrong with the tried-and-true actual buttons and knobs? It was the easiest to use, even with gloves, and served its purpose perfectly well. Why mess with a proven tech? I mean, this is actually an answer to a question no one asked! It's like making my toilet with a touch screen and all I need is to swipe down on the screen in order to flush, or just press a button to activate the voice command and say "FLUSH"!.. That would be very funny, but it's useless. No one needs it! And so is the complicated interface in the car. Leave the complicated interfaces for the high-tech gadgets, where it belongs, not where it is not safe to use. But that's just my opinion, and you may think different, of course.