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  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 29,017
    As long as the dealers are gouging I would buy something else. When they first came out here in San Diego the dealers were including the charging station in the MSRP price. I see a quite a few of them. Way more than the Volt, which I have only seen one. You can get a Prius under MSRP and there is a great supply of them in CA. If your electricity is as expensive as ours down here, the Leaf is no bargain. Unless you have solar and charge during the day.
  • You're fortunate as the LEAF has been available in CA for some time so at least some dealers are actually discounting it or at least just getting MSRP w/o a markup -- check this thread out on mynissanleaf.com on dealers that sell at MSRP or less:

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  • I've had my Leaf since May (2011) and have been running it off the PV array (5kW) I installed so I wouldn't have to buy my electricity from the power company. I purchased the Leaf as a replacement for a 97 ford Escort that gets about 22 mpg in rush hour traffic (ugh) which I drove about 50 mi RT/day plus side trips. The Leaf works out very well, I rarely use the Escort and may sell it (give it away). I originally calculated my energy savings from the deferred cost of electricity generated by the PV array. But, a few months ago I realized that my Costco bill was about $250/mo less than it had been (I live in HI where gas is expensive!). Then it dawned on me, my real deferred cost was the cost of the gasoline I was not using -- not the cost of the power company electricity I was not using. So, I have redone my calculations and shown that I will get my ROI on the solar PV array in 3 years, rather than the 8 years I had expected, by applying the $250/mo savings to the PV loan. So, in less than 30 months (now) I will have free electricity for any e-car I own (lease) AND I will be able to apply the $250/mo gas-not-used savings towards the lease of my next electric car! My cash flow has not been affected in the first 3 years and been improved thereafter! I have not compared this with the life-cycle cost of a hybrid, but I think it is still competitive over 5 to 7 years.
  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 29,017
    Which Island? We just sold our place near Hilo. Electricity was horribly high. Will your electric company let you store up energy? Or are you off the grid? I can see where your setup would be great. Mahalo for sharing.
  • Electricity from the Leaf can be used to enable refrigerators, air conditioners, washing machines, televisions, and others. This inspired the development of post-tsunami and earthquake that hit Japan in March 2011. At that time Japan experienced electrical supply disruptions. From there, the Nissan engineers develop V2H.

    for more article : Speed Encounter

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  • Thanks for the wonderful review. The Leaf has been on our radar since it was slated to come out. We bought a couple of Toyota Yaris's hatchbacks in 09 and 10 with standard tranny's. So far 30k miles each and just regular maintenance. As it should be on a Toyota.

    I am waiting on the Leaf to hear the good bad and ugly in maintenance, such as battery replacements or other horrible expensive computer modules having to be replaced. Those items that they force even people like me with experience to have to return to dirty dealer for service. If the Leaf can turn out 200K miles without such expenses, then it may be justifiable in long run. I shudder to hear what they want to replace the batteries, controller or whatever else. It would not surprise me either if the circuit boards are potted making it impossible to repair. Yup, I even have electronics under the belt.

    Keep the info coming, I just put this car forum on my watch list. Getting older and the trips are getting shorter. So the gas Yaris's will soon be open road units and the Leaf around town when purchased.

    May I suggest a wide angle mirror from JC Whitney for rear blind spots? I bought the smaller ones for the Yaris's which have terrible blind spots in rear and pulled the headrests out to improve view. They clamp over the OEM mirror, but have no night time feature. The mirror works fine as long as no one is in the back seat. 99% of the time that is the case anyway. If someone hits the brights in the back, I aim the mirror down.

    Girlcarbuilder
  • Agreed, the issue of how to charge the battery is very important, as is the total range available. Personally, I feel that the current state of the art is lacking when it comes to electric cars, although kudos to Nissan for offering an all-electric car at the price it does. I also feel that a hybrid gas/electric car is currently probably better at the present time than risking it all on an all-electric vehicle. I wanted to FYI an interesting fact that I came across re recharging lithium batteries. Northwestern University in Evanston, IL recently came out with a news release where they appear to have figured out a way to recharge a lithium battery, of ANY size, in EIGHT MINUTES. Yes, you read that right, EIGHT MINUTES. This means that consumers won't have to install their own recharging stations, they can just go to a gas station that has a recharging station and recharge in eight minutes. How long does it take to fill up a tank of gas? Five minutes? Ten? I hate to say it, but it seems as though the "early adopters", although an incredibly important factor in the dissemination of new technologies, may have jumped into the fray too soon. The range and recharging factors will be solved in the near future, and it will be as easy and quick as filling up a tank of gas. FYI for the discussion related to recharging times, etc. John V. Karavitis
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 40,764
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  • Karen_CMKaren_CM Posts: 5,018
    If you own a Chevy Volt or Nissan Leaf, a reporter would like to talk with you. Email PR@edmunds.com by Monday, May 14, 2012.

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  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 29,017
    I parked next to a guy in a Leaf this morning. He was more than willing to tell me about the car. He likes it, BUT. There are still no 440v charging stations that the Feds gave SDG&E millions to install. The private ones have some issues. It seems there are a lot of EV rentals running around San Diego. Several times he has been plugged into the 220V charging stations in one of the parking garages, only to come back and find his vehicle unplugged and a rental plugged in. It seems the range is marginal going from where we are 30+ miles to downtown SD and home. It takes about 8 bars to get back up the long grade to our little village. From sea level to 2000 ft. Now to the best part. He has the 220V charger and SDG&E installed a separate meter. If he charges at night the rates are very low. If he charges during the day they are higher than the normal top tier rate for homeowners. He has calculated his cost to date and if he was driving a 30 MPG vehicle gas would have to be 68 cents per gallon to match what he is paying for electricity charging at night.

    He thought about waiting until they get more range. But did not want to lose out on the $7500 from the Feds and the $5000 from CA. With tax and license out the door it cost him right at $24k.
  • early74bearly74b Posts: 34
    give the service guys bad marks, my dealer needed to perform an unofficial Nissan 'campaign' (snow shield and software update) as well as some post delivery things (offset steering wheel, creaky hatch strut) and it was done right the first time as well as a loaner provided so I gave them high marks. The 'problem' however seems to stem from being overly aggressive and pricey for things that should not cost so much (i.e., rotate tires, battery pack check, etc.) versus a 'standard' non-EV car or possibly just not getting an issue fixed. If you check the mynissanleaf forum you'll see both good and bad owner reviews from current Nissan LEAF owners not unlike other makes and models. Both sides should realize that there is a learning curve so there is bound to be some issues ...
  • espo35espo35 Posts: 144
    Fair enough- I admit that I've helped a few really, nice Leaf owners (you sound like a good guy/gal). But I must say 9 out of 10 are elitist cry-babies.
    Sorry. More than almost anyone, I wish this was not the case (it costs me money!).
  • Karen_CMKaren_CM Posts: 5,018
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  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 29,017
    We first became aware of the issue back in May, when owners on the MyNissanLeaf forum started to report that the battery capacity gauge on their cars was showing at least a 15 percent loss in capacity.

    In one case, this had happened after just 13,633 miles and one year of ownership.

    In its official response to us last week, a Nissan spokeswoman told us there were “a few isolated cases where a very small number of consumers are reporting a one bar loss,” but that “the battery will have 80 percent of its capacity under normal use after 5 years.”


    http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1077107_more-nissan-leaf-battery-loss-nissan- -doesnt-blink
  • kevinwfskevinwfs Posts: 1
    Hi,
    Hybrid cars are still in the developmental stages. We get teething problems but they'll improve. Once there is a consumer base, we can expect dramatic improvements as developers will be more willing to spend on R&D. Just wait ...

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  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 29,017
    That won't help the American workers. Most of the hybrid stuff has to be built in 3rd World environments where there is little regulation. We are throwing good tax money away subsidizing the EVs and Hybrids.
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 10,890
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  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 29,017
    Nissan launching production of Leaf in U.S.

    Washington — Nissan Motor Co. said it will begin U.S. production of its all-electric Leaf on Thursday in Tennessee as part of a $1.4 billion government loan.

    The Japanese automaker won an Energy Department loan in 2010 to build a battery plant in Smyrna, Tenn., and to retool to build the Leaf at its assembly plant next door.

    The Leaf will be built alongside the company's gasoline-powered products.

    Nissan says it is the only automaker that manufactures its own electric vehicle batteries, at the biggest lithium-ion automotive battery plant in the United States.

    http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130109/AUTO0104/301090398/Nissan-launching-- production-Leaf-U-S-?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|FRONTPAGE|s
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 10,890
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  • ev_curiousev_curious Posts: 1
    I purchased a used, 2011 Nissan Leaf. It's been an interesting experience! I had so much curiosity from friends that I began keeping a diary... follow along, if you're curious, too!

    http://EVearlyAdopter.blogspot.com
  • yerth10yerth10 Posts: 428
    I wonder how much will it cost to make a small 4 seater EV wagon with a 300 mile range which does not have a bonnet since the motors can be mounted on axle or wheels.

    Batteries can be mounted on the chassis, so this car can be just 130 - 140 inches in length, and with a smaller frame and lighter weight, it may need only lesser batteries. A small space of 10 cu. ft can be allotted for things at the back.

    I wish some company makes such a car and put it to market. May be they can choose another scientist name like Volta, Ampere, Watt for it.
  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 29,017
    It will take a lot of battery to go 300 miles no matter how small the vehicle. Add that to all the safety requirements mandated in the USA. Start by calculated how many KWHs are needed just to push enough batteries around in a vehicle. You figure the Leaf is minimalist and weighs 3291lbs with a range of maybe 90 miles. I think the batteries weigh 900 lbs. So triple that and you need a frame that would hold about 2700 lbs. Not any easy task.
  • PF_FlyerPF_Flyer Pennsylvania Furnace, PAPosts: 5,890

    As a long time Nissan owner, I get emails from Nissan regularly, and I got one this morning pointing out that Nissan has now sold 100,000 Leafs (or would that be Leaves? :D )

    I've only seen one on the road here in central PA, but I get the feeling that our terrain/weather is less than ideal for making the Leaf a practical primary vehicle for a lot of folks here.

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  • PF_FlyerPF_Flyer Pennsylvania Furnace, PAPosts: 5,890

    Another "clean" addition to the Leaf... self-cleaning paint?

    Will repelling water & oil keep dirt off? An interesting product idea at the very least

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