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  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
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    This time I'll start with the link (just for Steve).

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    http://scoop.daimlerchrysler.com/prod05_Wrangler_Rubicon.shtml

    and the same release with a slightly different title:

    http://scoop.daimlerchrysler.com/prod05_Wrangler.shtml

    2005 Jeep® Wrangler
    2005 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon: The legend grows again

    Building upon the success of the Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, the 2005 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon takes extreme off-roading to a new level.

     
    The Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon model builds on the award-winning capability of Wrangler Rubicon with an off-road system that includes locking front and rear differentials, front and rear Dana model 44 axles, four-wheel disc brakes and a 4:1 low-range transfer case. Not only is this premier off-road package fully synthesized by Jeep engineers, it's an exceptional value to customers.

    "The Wrangler Rubicon was too popular with Jeep owners not to expand it to the successful Wrangler Unlimited," said Bell. "With the Jeep Wrangler Unlimited, we brought the Jeep sense of freedom and adventure to a new customer who required more space. The standard wheelbase Wrangler Rubicon continues as the ultimate off-road Wrangler, but both are rigs that are ready for serious off-road trails-and at a significant savings, compared to the costs of modifying the vehicle with aftermarket hardware."

    The Rubicon editions feature a Rock-Trac™ transfer case with 4:1 "low range" that slows vehicle speed to give the driver more control, while increasing the amount of torque available at the wheels. In addition, the front and rear axles include "air-actuated" Tru-Lok™ locking differentials to maximize traction. The Wrangler Rubicon also features Goodyear Wrangler "Maximum Traction/Reinforced" 31-inch tall tires with a beefy tread pattern that wraps around the sidewall to help grab ledges along the trail. This state-of-the-art off-road tire includes a three-ply sidewall and advanced silica compound for excellent durability and puncture resistance. The LT245/75R16 tires add an extra half-inch of ground clearance to the Jeep Rubicon models.

    The Jeep Wrangler Rubicon and Unlimited Rubicon feature unique exterior design cues that include heavy gauge diamond-plate sill guards, 16-inch five-spoke aluminum wheels and a "Rubicon" graphic placed prominently on each side of the hood.

    (Published September 1, 2004)


    Looks like I posted the first release six weeks early!
     
  • On the door ding. I have factory running boards which generally ward off doors from cars and most other SUV's. This looks like a back door ( ever notice how they stick out about half way up) got me.

    Oil pressure - My oil pressure runs about 40 or a little less driving hot. At hot idle, it goes a little below 20. That assumes the markings are linear and the sender is accurate. It has never bothered me.

    Terry
  • Saw 7 Wranglers at NorthWest Hills in Torrington,CT. Easy - Relaxing Ride - I have no idea about reputation.
    George
  • Thanks. I will check it out.
  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    About 20/40 is pretty average.
  • 2004 Silver & Black Sport. My daqughter picked her color. She also could not help but to notice the silver.

    I have the duel tops…it’s the only way to go, in my opinion. Have to have a hoist to take it off though. It’s too heavy for one person and it’s too hard to find a friend willing to risk his (or her) back. I also have the auto transmission. The auto is the best way for me to go, I deal too much with heavy traffic. Plus I did not want to have to worry about shifting or burning out a clutch on a hill. As far as freeway driving the auto has good passing acceleration, as long as you have the 6-cylinder engine.
  • Outstanding!!!!! I am in my mid forties and do not consider Ellie'Mae a mid-life crisis either. But it is the best…and the most fun…I have owned.
  • “Midlife crisis vehicles are sports cars”?? I had my first (new) sports car when I was 23, two more by age 35, and my Porsche in my early 40’s. None of them were a mid-life vehicle…in fact I have not felt like have hid mid life yet. In fact I am applying for a bike (that’s a two wheeler without an engine) detail at work and I am 44.5 years of age now.
  • Have you noticed that this has been a real mild summer? It gets real hot (triple digits) where I live…but this year the A/C has not been on more then a few days all summer.
  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,109
    Chalk it up to global cooling! ;-)

    tidester, host
  • 1:30 am...Don't you people sleep!!
  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,109
    Don't you people sleep!!

    Sleep? What a novel concept!

    Seriously - I'm a couple time zones over so it's not really all that late.

    tidester, host
  • Its got a hard top and just about every option available. The hard top will probably stay on through winter, but I'm hoping to have a soft top bought before April.

    more details tomorrow, right now i'm late for work (again)
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Will you guys PLEASE buy your Jeeps! This is killing me! I get almost as excited over other people buying new Jeeps as if I was buying one for myself. :)

    Yeeeeeeeeeeeehawwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Ain't nothin' in the world like a Wrangler, Unlimited or regular size, Rubicon or SE.

    Good luck, Guys!

    KEEP US POSTED.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    CONGRATULATIONS!

    Yeeeeeeeeeeeehawwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    WAY TO GO!

    You must have been typing your post at the same time I was typing my post urging you and John and George to pull the trigger.

    GOTTA SEE PICS! Need any help posting pics, just let me know via email.

    When can I expect ya down here for some Turkey Bay wheelin'????

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    You guys are next. :)

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • I remember someone was talkng about hard top liners. Here is a link where you can find one on E-Bay.

    http://cgi6.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOther- Items&userid=edge_automotive&include=0&since=-1&s- ort=3&rows=50
  • Well, as I see it, there is only one solution. Get yourself a 6.5" LA suspension lift, put on 35's (or, if you put on a good sized BL, maybe 37s) and laugh as those back doors get jammed on (or under) the rocker panels. As a side benefit, you'll have a ride that other wheelers will drool over... ;-)

    Okay, maybe not the most practical solution due to all the other related changes and costs involved - but just think of the fun factor!

    Andrew
  • Now that they are making it when can we get them? I really hope they offer the dual tops.

    What is the largest size tire that fits with no lift?

    If the Rubi comes with 31" will a 32 or 33 fit?
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    I don't know of any reason why a stock Rubicon or a stock Rubicon Unlimited would take any larger tire than would a stock Wrangler Sport, Sahara, X, or SE. The limit for an unlifted TJ is 31" x 10.50."

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • So Jeep just put the largest tire they could fit on the Rubicon with no extra lift? Doesn't that usually affect clearance and articulation? I just thought if a standard Jeep could max out at 31" with smaller standard tires the Rubi might go up a size or two from the standard 31". Standard tires aside if the distance from the axle to the top of the wheel well is the same for all Wrangler versions than I guess 31" is as big as you get w/ no lift mods.
  • keatskeats Posts: 412
    I believe the Rubi has different springs and definitely has different shocks than a standard TJ. I think it sets about an inch higher than a standard TJ and then you can another 1/2 inch for the 31inch MTRs. Many have complained of "stuffing" the 31s on Rubis (shoving the tire so far up into the fender well that it dents the fender) in off road situations requiring a lot of articulation.

    To go 33s on my Rubi I'd still need a 2 inch suspension lift and a 1 inch body life to accomodate them. That sucks, but then at least, my speedometer would be accurate.
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    What Keats said is true. If you disconnect the sway bar when you are off roading, then the 31" MT/R's can actually touch the fender where the flare attaches. I know a guy who slightly bent his fenders because of this.

    I have a two inch lift on my 01 Sport, but I still have distorted flares from stuffing my 31 x 10.50 BFG Muds with the wheels turned one way or the other.

    TJ's have crazy flex, and that's a major reason why they are so capable off road.

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    You can see from these pics what I mean about stuffing a tire and messing up my flares.

    Now, if a guy is not going to off road and not going to disconnect his sway bar, then that might allow a larger diameter tire to be used.

    Tires need room for their width as well as for their diameter, and 10.50" is the max for wheels with the standard backspacing of 5.5." Even at 10.50," some folks need to use washers on their steering stops to limit their turning a little to prevent rub on the lower control arms.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • keatskeats Posts: 412
    Awesome pics, Tom. What kind of lift did you go with? No body lift?
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    I have a little two inch Procomp spring and shock lift. One of my very earliest wheelin' buds had that lift kit on his Jeep and wanted to sell it, so that he could get a bigger lift. I bought it from him installed and all for $200! Couldn't pass up that deal!

    I am finally adding that page about mods to my website about Turkey Bay and Jeepin'. I tried the last night or two (whenever it was that you reminded me about it), but the "site builder" server was not working, I guess. I was able to get through tonight, and I have added a few items, but I have more to do before I am through.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?

    P.S. No body lift as yet. I will only go with 1" on the body lift, if I ever do put one on. It is commonly believed that more than 1" on a body lift is not a good idea. As the body sways and leans, the further it is away from the frame, the more stress load (leverage) is put on the sheet metal where the bolts go through, and the more stress on the bolts themselves.
  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    Tom, as I expect you know, slightly extending your bumpstops will prevent the flare damage. Although articulation will be fractionally reduced, traction could very well be improved a little. It's always a compromise!
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Right!

    I chose to keep all the articulation that I could get, but you are correct, of course, in saying that bumpstop extensions would limit the axle travel and prevent rubbing.

    I actually added some, but they apparently were not long enough, because I still rub. The flares are already distorted as bad as they are going to get, so I am not worried about the rub.

    For those who don't understand about articulation, just take a look at those pics I posted. Look how Thelma Jane's body is almost on a level plane, despite the extreme angles her axles are on. All four of her tires are still touching the ground.

    Without that kind of articulation, she would have undoubtedly had two tires up in the air and would be tilted to one side or the other or be teetering back and forth.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • 99tj99tj Posts: 187
    Tonight, with the help of a buddy, I took off those weak factory sway bar links and replaced them with JKS quick release links.

    I had been driving around with a broken one for a while. What a difference it makes having those fixed. My friend went through 3 of the factory versions before he found the heavier duty JKS links. I decided to spend the extra money now and buy the good ones. Besides, if I take the old girl off road, I'll be able to disconnect them and get the articulation that Tom was talking about.

    -Dan
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Good deal!

    You'll definitely want to disconnect for wheelin'! It make a WORLD of difference.

    Speakin' of wheelin', where is it that you live now??? :)

    If I remember right, you are in New England? That might be a little far for you to come to Turkey Bay and wheel with me, but if you are ever over in this part of the country... :)

    Dan, I can hook you up with an Internet Jeep buddy in western MA, if you are ever interested in doing some wheelin'. He lives in North Adams, and he has a whole world of great trails within ten miles of his house. MUST BE NICE!

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    driving that shiny red Unlimited to post tonight.

    Come on, Jeff, give us your first impressions, if you can get out of it long enough, that is. :)

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
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