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RockAuto and Amazon both have the Moog CC80841 for $85/pr, and Monroe SensaTracks for $35~/each. Seems way cheaper than a conversion kit, but maybe too good to be true???
Has anyone else converted this way? Please let me know before I take the plunge and find out for myself.
My only concern is the kit from SunCore shows some rubber isolators/insulators, whatever you want to call them. Do the other kits have this?
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1998 Expedition 4x4
~Just bought the truck (there for i don't know any history)
~When i bought the truck it was sitting fine (not deflated) (reason 1 why i think there is no leak)
~It had a dead battery
~It has a junk yard air pump (can tell by the writing)
~Replaced battery with a good Optima
~When truck is running the air pump runs ALOT
~I have caught the pump running when the truck is off (not often)
~Battery will die after 2 days of not running engine
~I have been disconnecting the battery to avoid having to jump start
~I have had the battery disconnect for 2 day and truck still shows no sign of sinking in the back. (reason 2 why i think there is no leak)
~It will run 5 sec after i start the truck and it will run for 4 mins of so, then stop. And for example every 5-10 mins it will do the same.
~I will be sitting parked with the truck running and it will still do them same.
QUESTIONS:
?~Why is the pump running so much if there is no leak?
?~Is it the leveling sensor? relay? Solenoid?
?~What do i need to fix. I will fix it myself i just need to know what to fix!?!?!?
I don't want to do the conversion. I did not know about the switch under the dash until this post. !!!THANK YOU!!! I will do this in the mean time. But I DO want to fix it.
PLEASE HELP! ANY INFO WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED!!!
The Moog coils work for 1997-2002 2WD and 4WD Expeditions.
Also, you will need a coil spring compressor for the installation. Auto Zone has a Loan-a-Tool program where you can borrow one for free. They charge a $35 deposit, and refund the deposit when you return the item.
If you prefer to buy the coils from a local auto parts store, they can do a look-up using the Moog item number to find the comparable brand item that they carry. We opted to order the Moog coils from Amazon, however, because they had the best price and since it's tax free, it came out to be about $20 cheaper than buying the same item of a different brand from Autozone.
The instructions that can be found online at Strutmasters do not include the instuctions for disabling the Check Susp light. You must buy their coils to get those instructions. However, I have seen instructions for removing the bulb for that warning light on this thread. We didn't even mess with the light, because quite honestly, it just doesn't bother us enough to spend the time to take the bulb out. If we sell the truck eventually, we might worry about it then.
Lastly, the ride on our new coils is great. We've had ongoing problems with the air ride suspension for the last year, so it is great to have our suspension restored.
I hope this information will help someone else.
Wish I had read this forum before buying - and had noticed that Ford does not seem to offer the Air Ride Suspension in the 2011 model.
My dealership's Service group is telling me it is a "normal" sound that happens when the air suspension pump turns on to refill the load leveling bags.
Anyone? Anyone?
(1) Do you feel any vibration when you hear the noise?
(2) Does the noise appear to come from the right or left side?
(3) list your mileage, suspension mods, engine mods, wheels, wheel size and, any brake mod and/or type of brakes you have.
Mine goes like this:
Note:the noise is a low grinding noise. the noise goes away if i turn the steering wheel to the right and gets ever so slightly worse if it is turn to the left.
(1) no vibration.
(2) noise from the driver side front wheel area.
(3) mileage: 55k
engine mods: n/a
air suspension
18x7.5 +36 wheels
215/35/18 tires
oem brakes
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And it was diagnosed to have a bad wheel bearing.
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Hope this helps.
I appreciate your post - it gave me the confidence to tackle this. No more air ride head aches...John
If the engine's been off for more than about 40 minutes or so, you may need to start the engine, put your foot firmly on the brake, and shift in and out of gear a few times, just to get the air suspension to turn on again. When you stop the engine, you should hear the clicking of the solenoids and a gentle release of air from the air bags. This may cycle on and off for a few minutes with the truck parked and jacked up just as described.
Come back in a few minutes, and gently press on the sides of the air bags with your fingers. You should find them nice and soft at this point. Don't let the suspension all the way down in this condition, or the bags may come loose from their footings and/or lose shape. Be sure to support the truck with jack stands if you intend to slide yourself under the chassis.
When re-inflating the system, take the truck off of the jack stands and bring the jack down to where the truck is approximately level, then start the engine the same as when you deflated. The bags will now inflate to approximately normal level, and the jack can be removed. The system may continue some leveling adjustments to bring everything to a proper height.
First of all, you should jack up the end of the truck on which you intend to deflate the air springs. So if you intend to deflate the rear air bags, you must jack up the rear of the truck, and correspondingly the front of the truck for the front air springs, if so equipped.
Secondly, when re-inflating it would be useful to lower the truck to a little lower than level on the end you intend to re-inflate, rather than approximately level as I originally wrote. That will prompt the system to raise the truck by re-inflating the bags.
thanks for any info.
Thanks
John
Thanks for any help!
John
# when i start the truck the compressor kicks in and work prefect the front and rear air shock works to its level then compressor stops..i barely hear the compressor again when the truck is moving or running i guess its a good sign....
# then notice when i turn off the engine i heard couple clicking sound coming from the rear and my rear end starts to go down about 1 to 2 inches then stops.. IS THIS NORMAL???
#then after whole day off not running the rear end drops and rear driver side sits on the tire and the rear passenger aside almost sits on the tire..IS THIS NORMAL JUST FOR COUPLE OF HOURS THE REAR END DROP??? IF NOT HOW LONG WOULD IT LAST UNTIL THE REAR END DROPS?
#then i turn off the switch still the rear end drops,so there must be something wrong with it....
#Where can i start looking for for the problem? need help...ty
I checked for leaks and my Motor Compressor will work when I bypass the relay---
Thank you
Charles
Baton Rouge LA
Everything worked well until this week. Ironically the same thing has happened--- All four Bags have deflated. I can activate the compressor/motor by jumping the relay and checked the air lines going to the solenoids--- I found no leaks...
I would like to manually inflate the bags to check the bags as well as Keep this EXPO from riding like a Bronco Horse.
I am not sure how to best activate the solenoids at each bag--- I know I can disconnect the ASM connector from each Solenoid and apply 12 volts across the coil to activate each solenoid---
While I think it could be the ASM needs reprograming AGAIN...I am reluctant to take it to the dealer without making other component checks ----
IF anyone has pulled the Motor/ compressor relay off and checked the voltage at the relay connector/wires I would appreciate your Voltage Readings---- The readings I got were the Following: At the 2 large connections that go to the Motor/compressor I get 12 volts on 1 and zero volts or groundd on the other. The 2 smaller connector/wires ,which activate the relay by the ASM, get 12 Volts on one and the other which i think goes back to the ASM reads about 3 volts.
All your suggestion, information, or references to help me will be greatly appreciated.
Charles Pace
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Baton Rouge, LA
Are you getting rid of the Air Suspension 0r changing out the Air lift bags?