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Fight for recall of CVT for Nissan Rogues and the like

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  • juankjuank Posts: 1
    I have a Nissan rouge 2008 with 58k, I always did the service and maintenance in the Nissan dealer , I felt the noise and vibration in the car but in the dealer said that's a normal for this car, so I never take a lot attention , but one week ago I went to the dealer to replace the pads breaks and after that I felt a click when I pull the car in drive it made a click, so I was thinking that something happens with the breaks, then I went today to the dealer for check the noise and they told me that the transmition has to replaced it because the case has a malfunction problem. I can't believe that a car with good maintenance and only 58k have this kind of problems.
    I don't recommend to buy this car, I was reading a lot of reviews about all the problems that rouge has. :sick:
  • The repairs should be covered...yes, inconvenient.
  • I have had an issue with my air conditioner and now the CVT on my 2008. Calling the Nissan Headquaters in like calling adeaf person and waiting for a response. I did get a response on the air conditioner problem but a refusal to repair and a rude customer service person also came with the call. Let me not forget to mention that the customer representative claimed to be at a higher level than those in the call center. I asked for a letter stating that the air would not be repaired and he told me that there would not be a letter sent and the only notice I would get would be what he is telling me over the phone. How frustrating! After this episode my CVT (transmission) went out. To the credit of the dealership (Gastonia Nissan) the CVT was replaced. There are still some concern over the new CVT, but as of this writing they are trying to work out the kinks. Koodos to Gastonia for doing their best to rectify the problem.

    For those of you with transmission issues...do take to the dealer for a replacement...otherwise you are risking your life. the car will accelerate to more than 70 miles an hour without warning. Be safe and get it done!
  • Does anyone know if the CVT problem has been fixed with the 2012 Rogue's? Really like the look and feel wanted to buy until I saw this discussion.
  • Yes I would VERY MUCH like to know if the issue has been rectified with the 2012 model going forward.

    I am glad that I stumbled onto this discussion thread as I have been researching the vehicle before purchasing.

    Now I'm worried for my friend whom owns a JUKE with the same CVT transmission!
  • van65van65 Posts: 13
    What model years are covered under the extended cvt warrant? I have a 2011 Rogue
    Will appreciate input. Thanks
  • You can go right to the Nissan web site and there is a Tab just for that particular warranty. FYI...we just bought a 2008 Rogue and have had absolutely "zero" issues with the trans. It has 61K miles. Hopefully I'm not speaking too soon, but with the warranty, I'm not all that worried about it. It's like anything else, most of the time there are only a few with problems. If you factor in all of the units sold with this trans, it's really not that many who have problems...It's just that the internet has a way of amplifying isolated "glitches"...Good Luck.
  • van65van65 Posts: 13
    Thank you very much. I concur with your thoughts about the internet effect. I had a 2005 Sentra before w/o any problems. I've never had a CVT transmission before. My Rogue has 1000 miles on it w/o any problems.

    Thanks again, Jim
  • I was going to buy a Rogue today for they have 1500 of cash back by tomorrow. I thought I have time tonight to see more users review before I buy it. Now I have to think about it. Thanks for everybody's sharing of the experience with Rogue.
  • I have the car for a year. No issues found so far! Getting the same mpg as it should be, 22 - city / 24 - mountain / 27- hwy. With the AC turns on, it drops about 2 mpg.
  • Jim,

    I just bought a 2009 Rogue and decided, after the fact, to look at maintenance issues. Woops! I found this discussion group today. My car is used with 25,000 miles. What has your experience been since last August? My dealer offered a seven year 120K warranty which I took. I drove the Rogue to Charleston, SC last weekend without incident.

    Don
  • van65van65 Posts: 13
    I have 3000 miles on the car and have had no problems. Were planning a long trip over Easter and in July to the Smokies.

    There is engine drone from time to time, but that is normal with a cvt. I get 24mpg in town and 27-29 on the road.

    The extended warranty with your vehicle is a good thing. You never know.

    Jim in St. Louis.
  • van65van65 Posts: 13
    I have 3000 miles on the car and have had no problems. Were planning a long trip over Easter and in June to the Smokies.

    There is engine drone from time to time, but that is normal with a cvt. I get 24mpg in town and 27-29 on the road.

    The extended warranty with your vehicle is a good thing. You never know.

    Jim in St. Louis.
  • testagmtestagm Posts: 7
    I have taken a couple of long car trips since I had the replacement CVT put in and so far, so good! I will be putting about 900 miles on this week for a road trip, so we'll see. I'm hoping that the new CVT has fixed the problem.
  • Jim, Thanks for the note. You will love the Smokies this time of year. Creeks are full and waterfalls beautiful. Also the parking lots are not packed yet. I talked at length with our Nissan service manager, today, about the CVT reliability. He was not aware of a big problem with them. He was given a Rogue to drive to work from Sevierville (50 miles one way) two years ago and loves it.

    Don
    Oak Ridge
  • dougc56dougc56 Posts: 1
    I have a 2008 Rogue and without warning the power steering went out I almost went off the road but keep the car in the road. Got it back to the dealer and found out my certified car was not under warranty for this problem and it would cost 1000 to repair. i have filed a complaint with nissan. I cannot drive the car. and it has set for a week because I cannot pay for repair. I have a friend as an attorney and plan on a lawsuit. I hope Nissan goes Bankrupt for selling JUNK!!!
  • van65van65 Posts: 13
    I would contact the district manager for nissan. Also, does your certification exclude the power steering in writing? Also, contact the state attorney general for your state and complain, and file a complaint with the BBB.

    Good luck, Jim
  • kotoberekotobere Posts: 1
    I have rogue 2008 purchased as second hand (in Ghana). It has recently developed a problem of abrupt reduction in speed when in motion. What are the causes of such problem
  • My first look, see would be the transmission fluid level and type. Standard transmission fluid is red, and Rogue fluid is not. Usually quick change oil service will not know about the requirement.
  • van65van65 Posts: 13
    You should also taste the fluid. Bad fluid has burnt taste. Do not swallow. If the fluid is bad haVe it power flushed, do no just drained and replace. Use a qualified mechanic, and use Nissan transmission fluid.

    Check if the car has a recall on the transmission. You may be covered.

    Please advise as to what happens.

    Jim
  • gailintxgailintx Posts: 3
    My 2010 Rogue's CVT went out in December 2011 while I was driving 75 mph on the tollway. I had it towed (on a cold rainy Sunday) to the dealership where I bought it. The next morning, it drove just fine for them. The could not find any codes in the computer indicating a problem. I refused to take it back until the found something. A week later they said they replaced some valve and seal and I was good to go. Fast forward to March 2012. Same problem, same speed, same roadway. My car has 36,000 miles on it at this point. Had it towed back to the dealership. The next day, thankfully this time, it duplicated the problem for them. They replaced the transmission. It still did not show any computer codes, by the way. The warranty for the CVT is 120,000 miles. I wish I wasn't so upside down in it so I could get rid of it!
  • van65van65 Posts: 13
    I am glad you got the transmission replaced. I would keep the car now. The main problem with the car has been fixed.

    Enjoy the car. It is a very good vehicle.

    Jim
  • nena_whitenena_white Posts: 1
    We just bought a Nissan rogue 2012 last month with 3400 miles on it. Im completely freaked out now to even drive it and were suppose to be going from Augusta ga area up to NC mountains this coming week in it. I havent had any issues yet but it sounds like its coming. Can you tell me anything else about the 2010 or should I just sit and be scared?

    Before we bought it, it was a fleet car for a company and then the dealership bought it at an auction where we got it. The reports for it are clear thus far. It now has 5000 a little over miles on it. Any tips help TY :/
  • captmillercaptmiller Posts: 1
    Nena, Please ignore the hot air you read. Many like to demonstrate their personal insecurities by telling stories where no one can confront them face to face with truth. I bought my 2009 with 25,000 miles and now have 30,000. Beautiful!! Although a bit expensive, you could have the transmission fluid changed to give you a little extra confidence. It is true that a very small fraction of these CVT transmissions had early life issues, 99 % are just fine. I have come to believe most trouble comes from young drivers who like to race, but will not admit it when sharing their personal grief.
  • testagmtestagm Posts: 7
    I am one of those who suffered loss of acceleration in the middle of an intersection. Very scary, and thank god I had the green arrow and wasn't struck by oncoming traffic! However, I would agree with captmiller when he says not to worry. If you have a 2012, I'm sure they have worked out the bugs of the 2010 that I still drive. I had my CVT replaced and the problem has not returned since. Drive happy!
    (By the way, I would disagree with the comment of assuming the people who had problems are young drivers who like to speed. I am not one of them, and the others who wrote in sounded like nice couples on long road trips like I was.)
  • kgbatlkgbatl Posts: 10
    I am a 40 year old mother o two small children who had a horribly dangerous experience on a road trip (see earlier post) I took my Rogue to two different dealerships, including one in the middle of our trip and both dealerships acknowledged that they were aware of issues but they could not replicate the problem so Nissan would do nothing. We are one car payment away from paying it off and will be trading it in as soon as we can. In the mean time, we refuse to take it on another long trip and after loving Nissan since I was in high school and owning a Nissan Altima and Maxima in the family, I refuse to buy another Nissan. I refuse to put my children in danger so Nissan just lost a lifetime customer.
  • jka3jka3 Posts: 1
    Madison, Wi Nissan dealer says they are booked for weeks replacing transmissions and to expect recall. my 08 rogue with 41k will not go from park to reverse.
  • rustywerrustywer Posts: 21
    So on a recent trip to Vegas, going up hill on a fairly cool night at 75 - 85 mph, the transmission drops into failsafe. This is the 2nd CVT in this vehicle to have problems. First one was replaced at approx 80,000 miles due to noise issues by a dealer in San Diego.

    Being in the Business and having some technical experience with diags, I want to make sure I can see what is going on. I consulted two dealers and One says "It's an overheating problems, and Nissan is working on a fix" (This was from a service advisor) - I contact the Service Manager and he calls the Factory Rep, and I get the Blond Salute (The "I DUNNO SHRUG")(Yes, I'm Blond also)

    I call a Buddy of Mine who is a service rep at a local dealer and he's at least willing to listen to me.

    Here's what I see with a Snap On Scanner while Looking at Transmission Data.

    (Quoting my email to my buddy the service rep)

    So I drove the hell out of the Rogue this weekend with the scanner on it. The Datum I pointed out to you seems to be an issue.

    When monitoring the ATF Temp readings, you can monitor both the Temp Sensor Voltage Reading and the ATF Temp in Degrees Fareheight. The Voltage readings Stay Between 2.0VDC and 0.6VDC which, according to the weighted values from mitchell Should be 68 Degrees and 230 degrees respectively. When I read temperature (Weighted Values) from Trans Data 2 the 2.0 volt reading is consistant with the 68 degree temp, but as the voltage drops the interpreted data shows that the trans is reading 275 Degrees at .6 volts. This will cause a failsafe mode if the TCM interprets this value as a condition that is above normal temp. When I read the temperature of the transmission with an infrared thermometer, it never gets close to the high temp reading that the interpretted datum shows.

    As the transmission heats up, the whine in the transmission returns and gets louder as the temperature climbs.

    I know that Nissan is aware of this heating issue and they are working on a "FIX".
    I am also getting an intermittent burning smell when going uphill in warmer outside temperatures.
    I know that this transmission, if it is heating up, will have excessive wear in the transmission drive belt due to the high temperatures.
    I know that the whine is not an acceptable condition for the transmission to have.
    Having the transmission drop into failsafe mode after 2+ hours of driving is unacceptable.

    With this transmission dropping out of warranty in less than 500 miles, we need to do something about it ASAP.

    (End of Email)

    So, here some more "Sauce for the Goose" - If this is a problem with Data Interpretation they should have been able to fix it by reprogramming (Or cause it, because part of the first Technical Service Bulletin they performed, did a reprogramming of theTCM) - OR - If the problem is heat related and the problems don't show up untill the transmission get a few thousand miles on them, they can let it fall out of warranty with an average of a one time transmission replacement for problem units prior to the extended 120,000 mile transmission warranty expiration.

    Either way, Nissan needs to step up. If you are getting a Whine, Burning Smell, Failsafe Mode (Normally with no check engine light in my case), a feeling of slipping under load - Be the Squeaky Wheel and demand an answer and a Transmission replacement as soon as it occurs. A whine is rubbing / slipping - that causes WEAR - that causes FRICTION /HEAT - THAT CAUSES FAILURE !

    Good luck, my fellow Rogue Owners!
  • rustywerrustywer Posts: 21
    So the Rogue went in to the Dealer Today. The Found that the transmission was overfilled with transmission fluid by 21 oz. (after I removed a Pint this weekend when I found it high also) They find a bulletin that states that there will be an Overheating and Failsafe issue if the Transmission is overfull. Apparently the Transmission has to be checked at 160 Degrees and the transmission fluid needs to be at the Hatched area of the Dipstick when checked at this temperature. They didn't find any sediment or residue in the fluid they removed.

    Now, I'm waiting on Nissan Consumer Support to get involved as I started a case file with them. At least the service ticket will have a mileage less than warranty expiration and I have recourse if this thing bites the bullet.
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 40,856
    edited June 2012
    I'm a bit surprised that it has a transmission dipstick at all. Those are getting to be a bit rare.

    The next question is who (if anyone) serviced the transmission last? Was it overfilled at the dealer when it was replaced at 80k?

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