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2011 Ford Taurus
Just bought the 2011 Taurus Lim AWD with 303a pack,multi contour seats,adaptive cruise,and nav.Was a toss-up with the SHO but price and insur. cost played a factor. The 3.5 L engine has plenty of power for normal day use and uses regular gas. The SHO same motor but twin turbo jets out like a bullet and recommends prem.gas.. Both cars had same options inside except suade middle seat in sho lim leather,dash cosmetics diff color 20inch wheels to 19 inch on lim and steering slight diff in feel. I love the car but the choice was based on money cost and no need to speed but take both out for a ride and decide yourself.
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Reason I ask, is so many people and magazines told me what a great car the Fusion is, but when I drove one it did not compare well to my 2008 Altima 3.5 SE. My Altima is much tighter and feels much faster. I am sure it is faster, for what that is worth.
I am considering Maxima and Taurus... Maxima seems to lease WAY better.
Also, Ford seems to be pricing there cars way into the stratosphere. I read here or somewhere else a comparison of the Taurus and a V6 Honda Accord. The Taurus is nicer looking car and has the bigger trunk but lost the comparison due to price and performance (slightly). The people in the forum kept saying the comparison was not fair because the Taurus had WAY more features so was priced higher. Many of those features are not available in the Honda. BUT ... They missed a big point. The Honda had NAVIGATION and was still cheaper. In order to get NAV in the Ford you had to get the option list up there making the car 5 or 6 thousand dollars more expensive in the MSRP. The Honda sticker was like 31000 with Nav. You can get a Taurus sticker down to 31000 but it will not have NAV. Not even close. So the comparison IS apples to apples because face it, you either get Nav or you don't. Without the Nav unit the other stuff is just marketing bs.
As one who has had the misfortune of being in several major accidents, all in safe cars, the safety quotient of the new Taurus is not to be underestimated. After all, what good is a car if it does not keep you safe?
Only gripes are very minor: 1) console is a bit wide, restricting leg room. I had been driving an SUV, so it took a little getting used to. 2) It has automatic headlights that come on at dusk, but there's no dashboard indicator to tell you whether they are on or not. Sometimes if it's raining, I turn them from 'auto' to 'on' to make sure they are on. 3) rear visibility somewhere between limited and "what's behind me doesn't matter anyway". Rear parking sensors are a big help, mine doesn't have the rear camera, would highly recommend it. On the same note, you have to be a contortionist to clean the inside of the rear window.
At the rate I'm putting miles on this car, I'll blow through the warranty before the end of the year.
The auto headlight feature does turn on the headlights if the windshield wipers are turned on.
http://www.motorists.org/drl/reasons-to-oppose
I would appreciate any comments or suggestions related to my problem. Thanks
By the way, I have concluded there may not be a 2012 Taurus, but a 2013 will appear in the spring. Is this correct?
Newer TC's (torque converter's) are not robust enough to easily hold the car in place on an incline.
Not so much as having enough gear ratios available to most closely, more closely, simulate an actual CVT. Be in the right, most optimal gear ratio for current, all around road conditions. Makes for a whole lot of "shiftiness".
The 2010 Crown Vic is rated 16 city, 24 highway mpg.
Ford issued a Service Bulletin for 2010 and 2011 Ford products with the transmission like yours - TSB 10-21-2. It involves replacing the TRS - transmission range sensor. I had the problem with my MKS. It was very intermittent. Basically, it would attempt to be in the wrong gear at the wrong time. It would even slip into neutral while crusing. Occasionally, it would attempt to take off in a higher gear and then drop back to low, causing the sensation that you describe. Replacement of the TRS per the TSB solved the problem.
If you are still having a concern, have your dealer check this out.
Bruce, thanks so much for the service tip and I will keep that in mind in case the problem occurs again. So far, we love this 2011 Taurus.
ISSUE
Some 2009-2011 Edge, MKX, Taurus, Flex, MKS
and 2010-2011 MKT vehicles built
3/13/2009-6/30/2010 and equipped with a 6F50 or
6F55 transmissions may intermittently exhibit
slipping/neutral out, 5th gear start from stop,
electronic PRNDL error, backup camera on in Drive
or speed control dropping out intermittently, this
may be due to high resistance in the transmission
range (TR) sensor.
The complete TSB can be found by googling "6f50 TSB." Your original description of the stumble reminded me of what mine did - starting out in 5th and then immediately going back to low. It was very intermittent - maybe 3 times in 2 months. If it hadn't been for the bulletin, my dealer would never have found the problem.
as I'm driving even though the cabin temp has not reached my the set temp. I can feel the
difference in the air as it comes out of the vents. I took it to the dealer. They said the coolant
pressure was ok...the cycling times was ok. I was told that the compressor is suppose to cycle
often to save on gas milage. I would think this would eventually cause the compressor to fail early.
Any ideas???
"I can feel the difference...."
Unless the system lacks a (big enough??) dryer/reservior that shouldn't be.
The other reason for the compressor cycling might be the engine coolant "approaching" too high a temperature.
Anyone having similar issues, seeing reported problems on this? I'd appreciate context or links as well if applicable.
A/C cycled like mine. It in fact did. So I guess it is normal for the unit to cycle
often. I still don't like the way i can feel the "difference" of the refrigerated air
(compressor running) and the off cycle. This may be the reason I had problems with condensation on my windshield. It was a rainy day and the condensation was on the bottom of my windshield. I ran the "front windshield defroster" but it took quite a while to clear the bottom of the condensation. I would think that if the compressor cycled often that the air wouldn't be dry enough to dry the water. This is getting complicated . But thanks again for the info on the A/C in the car.
God I cant believe Ford is still making seats that tend to fall down and in from a driver perspective. Wow this alone makes me want to reconsider this purchase. I know the drill with the listing back and to the right all to well with Ford. I'm really surprised more people dont complain about it actually.
It makes you feel off center so to speak and you're only talking about 150-200 lbs. makes it even worse.
From a Ford Fan, c'mon Ford.
Ford has now adopted the seriously flawed NipponDenso, Denso US, automatic climate control design. To most quickly remove condensation from your windshield interior surface you will now be required to turn up the temperature setpoint, radically so, and then switch to defrost/defog/demist mode.
The Denso design, once the cabin temperature has reached your temperature setpoint, or closely nearby, will rely EXCLUSIVELY on the A/C's dehumidification capability for defogging the windshield. The A/C's functionality for this purpose is a complete and total WILD CARD, it may or may not work, depending on local climatic conditions. If the OAT is below ~35F the dehumidification capability of the A/C will be non-existent so the compressor is disabled.
To the end of correcting some of these flaws Toyota has added a few C-BEST options that the owner can select. One of these allows the A/C compressor to be disabled indefinitely, even in defog mode, simply by switching it off one time. Prior to that option I always disconnected my compressor clutch wiring throughout the non-cooling need period.
The second option prevents the system from automatically switching into cooling mode, dash outlet flow vs footwell. The importance of this is that in footwell (heating) mode a small portion of "warm" airflow is routed to the interior of the windshield. Wherein in cooling mode the windshield is allowed to cool (to dewpoint?) as a function of roadspeed and the onrush of cool/COLD airflow.
My Lexus does not have this second option so I must be especially diligent in watching for my system to switch to cooling mode in a cool climate and allways switch it back to footwell, heating mode.
There is now a third C-best option available that addresses the A/C control issue when the compressor is automatically disabled with the OAT below ~35F but I don't now remember what it is/does.
Your Ford may have these same options.
Has anyone else experienced this issue?
I had also heard that Ford may be having a recall on the Taurus for "Sudden acceleration". No reported accidents or injuries. Does anyone know if this is true? My family and I are leaving on vacation in a couple of weeks on a 1600+ mi journey. I really don't want to risk our safety if there is an issue with the car.
Mikey