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2012 Hyundai Azera

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  • tenpin288tenpin288 Posts: 804
    edited February 2012
  • cobrazeracobrazera Posts: 352
    edited March 2012
    How can base Infinity be based on Maxima since the Maxima is FWD and the G model Infinities are RWD?
    IMO, you can talk platforms all you want, but two vehicles from the same platform can be very different. The Lincoln MKT is on the same platform as the Ford Flex, but the vehicles are worlds apart...or the Pontiac G8 and the Camaro...or the Saab 9-3 and the Chevy Malibu...
    As an '06 Azera owner, I was initially put off by the price increase for the '13 Azera, but when I saw the pics and read the specs with increased content, I must say the car looks to be very sweet. I believe the increased content and price were necessary to perfectly split the gap between the Sonata and Genesis.
  • jamazerajamazera Posts: 149
    check the interior volumes, wheelbase, etc....modern platforms with unibody construction can accomodate 2 wd or 4 wd and various drivetrain combinations....look closely @ the toyota models and the lexus models...it is hard to dinstugish them apart without badging .....(minus chrome,headlight design etc) I too own a '06 Azzy with 38k miles....bought it new....black on black Limited...will not consider th new Azzy too pricy,,,,will look @ the new Kia Cadance (????) when it arrives
  • jamazerajamazera Posts: 149
    check the interior volumes, wheelbase, etc....modern platforms with unibody construction can accomodate 2 wd or 4 wd and various drivetrain combinations....look closely @ the toyota models and the lexus models...it is hard to dinstugish them apart without badging .....(minus chrome,headlight design etc) I too own a '06 Azzy with 38k miles....bought it new....black on black Limited...will not consider th new Azzy too pricy,,,,will look @ the new Kia Cadance (????) when it arrives probably $4-$6k less
  • dodgeman07dodgeman07 Posts: 573
    The new Azera is base priced very close to the base Genesis but $12k above the Sonata. That surprises me - I think Hyundai is pricing it like a FWD Genesis (almost). In fact, you can get a new 2012 Genesis for $32,900 on truecar.com right now.

    Now the Hyundai/Kia marketing gurus are smarter than I am. I believe they are upping the ante on the Azera to make more room for the Cadenza (or whatever name they use for the Kia model) and better differentiate their two makes. Kia also has a quasi-Genesis flagship model coming to the U.S. Dubbed the K9 elsewhere, it will get a new model name when it arrives here within a year.
  • cobrazeracobrazera Posts: 352
    According to the Hyundai website, a Sonata Limited turbo with NAV is $31170, a Genesis 3.8 with the technology package ( NAV ) is $39,875. That places the NAV equipped Azera in a pretty sweet spot between the two. Yeah, maybe you don't need NAV, but all the techie stuff ( hard drive for music, back up camera, voice commands, etc. ) that comes with it is pretty nice.
    Regardless of price, though, if you live where it snows regularly, the Azera would be a pretty easy pick over the RWD 3.8 Genesis.
  • oskidunker1oskidunker1 Posts: 213
    Test drive reports claim there is alot of wind noise from the A Pillar. Would be curious to know if they just got a bad car or if this is true. I'm sure some people will report back soon.

    I never use my sunroof, so the base model would be fine for me. :confuse:
  • kenb757kenb757 Posts: 149
    And I should buy the overpriced Azera over an Avalon or Lacrosse, why?
  • kenb757kenb757 Posts: 149
    "Where the old car’s suspension was soggy as Seattle in April, the new car is no longer cursed with the cheapest shocks available, an engineer explained. Instead, now the Azera uses the advanced Sachs shocks featured on the Genesis and Equus premium models." http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/27/10489177-finally-hyundai-azera-- is-ready-for-prime-time

    Does this mean the Azera has the truck-like ride of the Genesis or the comfortable ride of the Equus with air springs?
  • jamazerajamazera Posts: 149
    can the new Sachs shocks be retrofitted to the old Azera's??
  • Build market share. Price the Premium/Tech Package model at $35k

    Their pricing is off.......
    BD
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    truck-like ride of the Genesis

    Very descriptive and true!
  • smarty666smarty666 Posts: 1,503
    why spend $30k plus for a Azera or Genesis when they are just dressed up Kia's. :P
  • dodgeman07dodgeman07 Posts: 573
    Speaking of Kia, things have been quiet on their upcoming full-size models.

    Supposed to be FWD and RWD Kia models in the works a la Azera and Genesis. Early photos are promising with more formal yet athletic profiles.

    I believe the Kia price points will be a notch under Hyundai levels and more in my ballpark. ;)
  • LASHAWNLASHAWN Posts: 303
    It's not overpriced when compared to Avalon and Lacrosse. Don't both of these cars cost $35k + before good options are added?
  • oskidunker1oskidunker1 Posts: 213
    I have looked at the competition and frankly like the design and features of the Azera better. The Nav being included is a big plus because I would never pay $2k more for this. Also they have two new colors, venetian red and a Copper brown color that looks interesting.

    Some time when you are going down the freeway, look at the cars. They are all Black, white or Grey. I have a white Azera and was tired of the color about 1 year after I bought it. Next time I want a nice color, probably blue but I would love to be able to actually look at the red and brown. I fear no dealer will order these colors, which would be too bad.I'm afraid I still yearn for my Lime green 1972 240Z!

    My guess is when the 2012 azeras come in, they will all be black. Maybe when I am in my own funeral...
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 10,837
    The brown doesn't do anything for me (if you're referring to the bronze mist on the Hyundai site), but the venetian red sure looks sharp. Midnight blue pearl looks nice too. Then again, I'm partial to odd colors - currently drive a yellow Ford Escape. As long as you know you *might* take a hit on resale if you go for a less commonly-desirable color, I prefer interesting over bland.

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  • dodgeman07dodgeman07 Posts: 573
    No. In fact the Lacrosse bases right at $30k and is well loaded at $35k.

    There is little question that Hyundai has set their sights high with the pricing on the new Azera. People used to buy Hyundai for price/warranty. Price is less of factor now since they are comparable to the competition, not below it (in most cases).
  • oskidunker1oskidunker1 Posts: 213
    edited March 2012
    I don't care about resale. Even though I am a Cal guy, I might just really consider that Red, if I can look at one somewhere!Maybe Camissa in Burlingame will get one.

    I wonder if dealers will have mostly base models or the loaded ones.Myself, I could do without the sun roof.
  • jlindhjlindh Posts: 282
    $38k plus if you want bluetooth which seems to be about a $2000 option. Can that be right???
  • dodgeman07dodgeman07 Posts: 573
    I don't think so. The Azera has Bluetooth standard at a $32,875 base price. There is only one option package available, it's $4k and includes the glass roof.
  • jlindhjlindh Posts: 282
    I was talking about the Buick.
  • dodgeman07dodgeman07 Posts: 573
    Bluetooth is standard.
  • dodgeman07dodgeman07 Posts: 573
    edited March 2012
    That's a glitch in the website. Bluetooth for phone AND radio is standard on all Lacrosse models. I have a 2011 Lacrosse CX and it has Bluetooth for both phone and radio standard.

    Here is the link. Buick should drop the row for Bluetooth phone because they have a seperate row for Bluetooth Phone and Radio that now covers it. I can stream wireless audio from my cell phone, the car's phone, or the AM/FM/XM radio.

    Lacrosse Bluetooth After this link loads, click on "Interior" tab at that top and scroll down. You'll see it is standard.
  • cobrazeracobrazera Posts: 352
    edited March 2012
    Looks like that $2000 option on the top Lacrosse model is NAV, with a different Bluetooth than the one that's standard on the other models. Yup, website glitch. If you want a Lacrosse with NAV it appears the least expensive would be the Premium 1 Model/Group where NAV is an option. V6 and a sunroof on that one is about $35K.
  • kenb757kenb757 Posts: 149
    According to latest issue of Motor Trend, the Azera has a "busy ride." Looks like Hyundai is true to its incapability of designing a smooth riding car without air springs (the Equus being the exception). Too bad, I'd consider a Genesis if it had the same suspension as the Equus. Now, compared to a nice-riding Avalon and there's no way I'd throw away $32k on an Azera.
  • tenpin288tenpin288 Posts: 804
    I believe this is the comment you are referring to. Not quite as damning as you imply. Actually the writer seems to compliment the strides Hyundai has made in ride quality.

    Out in the real world, the Azera is proof positive that Hyundai has made strides ­-- albeit small ones -- to improve chassis dynamics. The ride, while not as coddling as that of an ES, comes across about as firm as a TL's and strikes a nice balance between luxury and sport, though over coarse pavement it's still a bit busy. Surprisingly, under aggressive cornering, the Azera exhibits sharp turn-in and moderate body roll, both of which are rather uncommon for the segment. (Credit the SACHS continuously variable dampers.)

    http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/1202_2012_hyundai_azera_first_test/
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