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XV Crosstrek MPG
25-33 for the CVT
23-30 for the manual
Of course it will probably be equipped nicely, even base models.
Sounds like our needs/priorities align pretty well, though. There's no way I would buy an otherwise-perfect car if I don't enjoy the drive. That's why I really need to take the time to drive the Impreza! The trick is thinking about it at the same time the local dealership has a manual on the lot. I don't mind test-driving the CVT, but I hate to bias my initial opinion of the car that way.
To be fair, though, Subaru's CVT is a very good automatic transmission. I drove a Legacy Limited 2.5i last summer just to try it out at a friend's suggestion, and it left me with a much better impression than I expected.
thanks for sharing any experiences...
I am in the same boat as you where my truck has been limping along, I had to replace the fuel pump this week, I do sort of regret ordering rather than getting a car on the lot but hopefully when my car comes I will be happy with the decision to get what I wanted.
Good Luck!
We custom-ordered a Forester and have no regrets. It's *exactly* the car we wanted.
Have no regrets - in the long-term you'll be much happier. Small price to pay, really.
Outback orders for 2012s stopped a few weeks ago. '13 Outbacks are rumored to be available in June.
Without wishing to impune the integrity of car salesmen' it sounds like a fabulous line to force a sale before month end, when many salesmen's bonuses are calculated. For real impact, try looking interested a day or two before month end and watch the slavering drool as they envisage an even bigger bonus!
Cheers
Graham
2012 Impreza, WRX and STI sold order cut-off date is Monday April 23. So get your order in quickly.
many of added the short shifter without problems.....if all else fails...ask your dealership that you would get warranty service from....
I like: high mpg for an AWD. I've gotten 38 mpg on high end and no worse than 30 mpg in winter city driving. Very good suspension over bumps--actually an impressive suspension. Low center of gravity/quick handling. Inexpensive purchase price. Nice interior for the price. Love the heated seats. So far, a reliable car. Decent looking car. Went thru 12 inches of new heavy snow without a problem. A great value for an AWD.
The noise issue however really bothers me at times. I'm not sure I would buy this car again because of that issue. Seems like Subaru cheaped out in the insulation area which is surprising since the rest of the car is top notch.
Second, have you checked the tire pressure? The cars are shipped with the tires over inflated and dealers often "forget" to adjust to the correct pressure. As far as the ride, there has been mostly praise with respect to the ride on the 2012 Impreza. I personally test drove a Base 5-dr w/ CVT and I had no complaints with the ride (rode better than my 2002 Outback).
Third, have you driven a manual transmission recently? Even if you have, Subaru MTs are not the smoothest and do take some time to get used to, but once you "master" it, all should be OK.
Fourth, unfortunately since your car was titled/registered, the dealer would have to sell it as a used car. It sucks, but the fact remains that it's a used car. But I agree, $4K difference does seem out of line.
Good Luck!
It appears the delays have something to do with Nav but Subaru won't tell dealers what the problem is or when the get well date is. Because the dealers don't really know the answers and are the only direct contact people have with their orders people tend to lash out at them. Unfortunately late deliveries are Subarus fault but since they're harder to contact they get off scott free.
Sorry for my rant but after 99 days I'm very close to cancelling my order. The only reason I haven't cancelled yet is because I don't want my dealer to look bad because of it. Blaim needs to go to Subaru and Subaru needs to start answering fo their delays!
Don't rush on the trade in. Try to explore the tires, you shifting and make sure this isn't something else causing your displeasure.
Fred - This one bugs me. During the test drive, I also noticed how 'light' the door felt when opening and closing it. The doors felt like ones from a cheap low tier car. Salesman side they used super strong steel or something to deliberate cut the weight -I thought "yeah right, whatever". What you said about door dings is a good warning - Thinner sheet metal will dint that much more easily. Unfortunately this must be one of the sacrifices to acheive lowering manufacturing cost and vehicle weight (to achieve higher MPG).
The new steel is higher in tensile strength which helps in an accident but won't necessarily be helpful for door dings.
I think our difference in opinon on these are could be just what we are used to.
The thin sheet metal or at least the sound of thinner metal is there. I wonder if the sheet metal is that much thinner or if less sound proofing might be to blame. A thin coat of foam on the back side would have helped, but adds cost and some weight. Agree a little work there would have made the car even better.
My only slight disappointment so far is the MPGs. It hasn't been bad but not 36mpg or better. I can still beat EPA numbers with my 2001 Outback. So far I've calculated 32 to 33mpg on 3 tanks. I think the cool morning temps (30's F) has the biggest impact.
Doesn't sound right - Consumer Reports actually gave the Impreza the title of best small car ride. Tires are shipped with very high pressures to prevent flat-spotting, so check that first.
Ask the dealer if he has a demonstrator CVT that you could swap for. You'd still pay about a grand out of pocket because the CVT costs more.
It's a tough situation, but you have to ask yourself, when you went to buy your first new car, would you have paid the same for a returned car someone else didn't like? I sure wouldn't...
Saturday hit 92 and 10 miles from home, the TPMS starts flashing. I get out, kick the tires, definitely no flats or low pressure. Going down the road, the light turns steady. Coming home (night time) the light goes off and stays off. After letting air out the following morning, putting them at 34 front and 33 rear all around, we haven't had a light come on since.
I'm not sure what the high psi level trigger is, but it does exist.
John
CVT's are smooth "shifting" and FE consious constantly.
aside: hold habits die hard. i still constantly forget to put my car in park after driving/shutting it off (from the habit of leaving my car in gear with my 5spd)
When going through the car with the salesman on delivery, it did it for him while showing me, and he said that's just how it is.
Anyone else? Thanks!
There was also a note in the manual that if one of tires was not low when the light indicates, that this could be a malfunction in the system. No mention of excess pressure triggering the warning.
I also found out that the cruise control will not work with the TPMS light on, which does make sense.
John
That's interesting. I don't have any problem with the cruise on my '10 Forester, and the TPMS light is illuminated half the year due to my winter rims not having the sensors installed in them. This must be a further ploy to force the proliferation of nanny devices. :mad:
Since the 2012 order discontinued, when will be the 2013 Impreza be out, any detail on 2013 changes.
I still do have it come on a couple time after I lower the psi and went away a few second later. Both time was at wal-mart. I back out the car from the parking slot hit the break that is when the light come on. I switch to D and start to drive and it went away.
anyhoo. pleased with everything, but curious about something. i've noticed that it is hard for me to maintain a steady lane position in this car, notably at higher, freeway speeds. i find myself drifting suddenly to one or the other side. i find that i have to pay more attention to my hands gripping the wheel than i did in my old car, a 99 mazda protege manual tranny. any thoughts on this? coupled with that, one strange not-quite-incident: coming around a freeway interchange bend at about 55 mph, i hit a series of bumps and actually felt like the wheels spun out and back very quickly. i did not lose control or anything.
is this an AWD thing? an automatic transmission thing? an impreza thing? imagined?
very unused to an auto transmission...totally tolerable, but do miss the connection to the road, i must say. (don't miss anything, though, in bad bay area traffic!)
thanks,
kim
Make sure all the tires have the same pressure, and if it persists check for uneven wear or even consider asking the dealer to check the alignment.
Perhaps it's because the electrically-boosted steering is still too sensitive to input at high speed. So by virtue of holding on to the wheel and how fast the car is going, a tiny movement translates into the car moving a noticeable amount.
I wonder if they could fix this in software.
My rear defogger is very week. When we had 1/16th inch of frozen ice on the car a month ago, the rear defogger barely unfroze the ice, even after being on for 5 minutes. I just scraped the iced off and went to work.
Last night's commute home, under very humid conditions, the AC cleared up the fog on the front window quickly, but the rear defogger did a poor job.
After 5 minutes of it being on, only +/- 1/8th inch of fog was cleared on both sides of the rear defogger lines. After 15 minutes of being on, only half the window had cleared.
Do others experience similar rear defogger results?
For the "almost incident", I take it it felt like the car was about to spin out, but didn't. The sharp bumps may have gotten the wheels loose (bouncing. The low profile tires may have played a role? I'm new to these 205/50 R17 tire sizes so I'm not sure. All my previous cars have much taller side walls. I'm fairly sure the CVT didn't play a role and the AWD may have saved the car from spinning.
After being warned, I checked my tire pressure and sure enough it still had the 40psi shipping pressure, which the dealer overlooked during "prep".
That would definitely make a car wander a bit more.
My Impreza was feeling like it my cars do before I take them in for alignment, a bit floaty, but dropping the tire pressure to something reasonable really helped the tracking.
But if the tire pressure is ALL correct all around, alignment being off could definitely be a factor in wandering steering. At least worth checking.
Subarus are unusual: sports cars with a frumpy body.
The down side of their remarkable handling and road control is their sensitivity to even minor variations in inputs. I found that a variation of even 1psi in tyre pressure or a very minor misalignment (even some mud inside a wheel) would affect handling dramatically.
They are not your average "family-mobile"!
Reducing tyre pressures will reduce the sensitivity, but make it softer for handling.
Cheers
Graham
I think it's silly that the moonroof is like this. But, I emailed Subaru and they said they tested one they had there, and sure enough it does the same thing... so that makes it "normal".
NOTE
Driving with the moonroof fully open can cause an annoying sound to be generated at high speeds. If this occurs, use the moonroof at the initial stop position of 16 in (40 cm) away from the fully closed position.
My VIN finally arrived overnight. ETA = May 10 (duration = 9.5 weeks)