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I noticed that on my Miata and it was filthy. Works better now.
The re-set on the tank fill gave me a range of 530 gallons. I've got 1150 miles on the car now.
John
I checked my tire pressure and they came at around 40 pounds and so I adjusted them down to 34/32 and it made the ride much smoother.
Next week I am planning on having the windows tinted 35% because the DGM car gets warm on sunny days. Another thing I am contemplating doing is painting the front grill black because the silver stands out too much in my opinion. Have to check with my dealers service department on how to remove the grill assembly so I can Plasti-dip it.
So far I am happy with the car except for the intermittent assorted squeaks and rattles. It doesn't do it all the time and doesn't annoy me that much.
So, besides the Impreza, I decided to humor her and look at the bigger vehicles. Not 1 is under $36k compared to the Imp at $25k loaded to the gills. The lowest (but only seats 6) is a Canyon / Colorado Crew at $32k loaded to the teeth.
Now, I have been offered $14k trade on "The Beast" and he has been paid off since I got him. Somebody pass me the pepto please. :sick:
Odie
Doesn't look like fun ... gotta take the front bumper off.
http://techinfo.subaru.com/proxy/66129/pdf/066129-j1010fj000xx.PDF
The price is not a big deal for me, and ordinarily I'd be in favor of paying a little extra for an environmentally beneficial feature.
The problem is that unlike in California and other states that require PZEV, Subaru does not warranty the PZEV and related emissions hardware where I live. The price of the vehicle is the same, but the purchaser simply doesn't get the Subaru PZEV warranty. In California, PZEV is covered by a 15 year/150,000 mile Subaru warranty. In most other states, however, once the basic car warranty expires, the owner is on his/her own.
Do people have thoughts about this? I tend to keep my cars for a long time. Is the owner of a vehicle with non-warrantied PZEV likely to face major repair costs down the road?
1
Year Unlimited Mileage
Replacement Parts And Accessories Limited Warranty
2
Year 24,000 Miles
Federal Specification Emissions Performance Warranty
3
Year 36,000 Miles
New Car Limited Warranty, Federal Specifications Emissions Defect Warranty
5
Year 60,000 Miles
Powertrain Limited Warranty
5
Year Unlimited Mileage
Rust Perforation Limited Warranty
7
Year 70,000 Miles
California Specifications Emissions Extended Defect Warranty
8
Year 80,000 Miles
Federal Specifications Emissions Extended Defect Warranty
Life
Time Lifetime
Seat Belt Lifetime Limited Warranty
will have to look at the manual later for full details
i'm trying not to let the intermittent rattles and squeaks get to me, but i have better and worse days...
funny: it's both comforting and frustrating that others have the squeaks/rattles. comforting that it's normal in many ways and my expectations are probably unrealistic and need to relax more about the rattles , but also frustrating that in this area, the car has some consistent issues that plague a certain fraction of the cars. (i guess that's what we get for buying the first year in a new generation car...then again, i haven't heard of anyone here or on NASIOC pursuing these rattles with the dealer which means if uncomplained about or debugged on a large number of cars, these problems will persist for the 2013 owners)
I was very pleased with my Forester during the first 500 miles I owned it, but then the rattles started. By the time I made it home two days later at 2,200 miles, I was about ready to shoot that car. Thankfully, a day at the dealership had them all fixed and they have not returned (I'm at about 200 miles shy of 40,000 now). The only rattle I currently have is a lift-gate rattle, but it's a doosey!
I wrote a note to customer service at Subaru, and they confirmed that the extended 15 year/150,000 mile warranty on PZEV related components is not provided in states other than than those listed above.
It may be that some of the PZEV components are covered by the 8 year Federal emissions warranty, I don't know. But the far more extensive 15 year warranty won't apply.
Thus I am trying to guess how much of an expense maintaining PZEV will be as the years go by. I'm not really worried about whether or not the cars' emissions might creep up a bit (though I'd rather they didn't!), but I am worried about whether or not failures in various PZEV related parts including the numerous sensors and engine computer might cause more serious problems, that I would have to pay to repair myself.
I tend to hang on to cars for a long time.
That list is out of date. :sick:
From wikipedia ...
States adopting the California standards include Arizona (2012 model year),[1] Connecticut, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New Mexico (2011 model year), New York, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, and Washington, as well as the District of Columbia.[2][3] Such states are frequently referred to as "CARB states" in automotive discussions because the regulations are defined by the California Air Resources Board.
My state has required PZEV for several years and it's not on Subaru's "extended" list. :confuse:
My assumption is that the extend emissions warranty applies to any PZEV vehicle registered in one of the CARB states.
Make sure, since its easy to see, that your oil filter is part 15208AA160 ( as listed in the manual) when you get an oil change - the dealer didn't even have the filter, he had to send out for it - I now have a loaner
John
Nice catch, though. I also inspect stuff after its service. I even stopped taking my Sienna to shops to get even free oil changes because they would over-tighten it every single time.
This sucks because normally I would be able to get my dealership to swap cars with another dealer but there are zero 5-doors available in Utah and zero in the pipeline. It sucks a little more because, as I told SOA, they miss dates and add months which is extremely inconvienient for customers. I told them that since they have stopped taking orders for 2012's they are setting people up to get brand new 1 year old cars the minute they take the first order for a 2013.
I've done my homework and found out that there are quite a few 5-doors sitting on lots in the Eastern states (which I suspect are deliveries from cancelled orders). I asked them what the possibility of shipping a car from IL or PA (dealers in both states have exact matches to my order) and they tried to tell me that I would have to work that through my dealer. I told them that moves can be made by dealers within the regions but not from out of region to which they agreed (I guess their booger flicking back to the dealer wasn't such a good response after all). They said they would look into it an call me back Monday.
So now when/if they call back on Monday I'm going to have to give a deadline; get the car here from Japan no later than 15 May or find a car to get here by then. I'm pretty sure they'll try to make me or my dealer pay for shipping but I think they should cover that since anything beyond a 90 day wait for a car is extremely unreasonable and anything over a 30 day wait for a VIN is completely crazy. IMHO their problems are terrible tracking and transportation.
Sorry for my rant, I'm trying to exercise as much tact with them as possible but I'm starting to run low. With luck they already have a policy in place for the times they can't deliver and I'm really hoping their policy isn't to cancel orders and ignore the problems.
Considering how hard they are to come by in the trim/color combo I think I got a decent deal on mine. $23,029 + TTL with a Moonroof, Cross Bar Set. I added the 10" Sub ($640.00 installed; I know, I got ripped off on that one, lol), but I wish I had the Auto-dimming mirror (which I may still add on). Less the mirror, I got everything else I wanted, and the Cross bar set was an added bonus.
I had to drive 80 miles to get home from the dealership I got it from, fluctuating speeds between 55-75, but not revving past 3.5k rpm at all. I did rev up to 6k rpm once for a split second, only because I forgot I was in "manual" and kept it in 1st gear. I do have a slight uphill highway drive to/ from work, but I don't need to strain the engine to get over it.
I'm still somewhat of a newbie when it comes to breaking-in new engines but I just wanted to ask if the ride home from the dealer (80+ miles of highway driving starting from 10 miles on the odometer), as well as my daily commute up a slight incline are a detriment to the break-in period . Lastly, did I get a decent deal?
I'm looking forward to many more years in this car and love it a bit more every time I drive it.
Price really depends on where you are in the country. Some pay less some pay more. For the engine break in, I'm not an expert, but I'd say just take it easy and limit the revs and it should be just fine.
The Subie is way different than that Yukon! Have fun driving. We have an 03 Tahoe, to go along with two Subarus. The Impreza is the fun one.
There's two ways to badly 'break in' an engine. The most common way is to drive it like it's extremely fragile. This prevents the cylinder wall/ring interface from smoothing out/wearing to a tight clearance. The you get high oil consumption.
The second way is to use full throttle on a cold engine, which will deform the pistons before they have had a chance to relieve built-in stresses from manufacturing.
The best way to break in any engine is to fully warm it up, and then to use near-full-throttle for a few seconds at a time to wear-in the rings and cylinder walls. Do this at least a dozen times. Let completely off the throttle after that, to get oil back on the rings.
I first read of this back in the '70's, and have used it on every engine I own. 7 cars and 11 cycles and 1 snomobile. None of them burned enough oil between oil changes to need oil added after 5,000 to 7,500 miles. All of them had exceptional compression. (My 2000 Outback had such great compression after 95,000 miles that the mechanic checked it twice, and them remarked about it to me after replacing the timing belts!)
You should do this before you put too many more miles on your car.
Sorry to hear about the delay on your front. I ordered my Impreza end of Feb, was supposed to arrive 4/23, and eventually showed up at the dealer 4/27, will pick it up tomorrow (4/29). It was held up for about 10 days (before the 4/23 ETA) near the port of Richmond, apparently they install all the accessories there before distributing to the northern Bay area.. Once that was done 4/16, for a few days there the dealership did not know why the car hadn't showed up, looks like SOA has insufficient communication with the dealers wrt distribution ops.
Hopefully the situation gets sorted out for you.
Have often wondered about this, and as I am picking up my car tomorrow, is great timing for the posting. How much time apart should I do the post-warmup intense workout?
Regards,
Swami
@skid0: Should I rev high while in park, or should I perform this while driving? I know the manual says not to rev past 4.5k for the first 1k miles, but your experience sounds convincing...
I'm on the same wall as you as my wife really wants this car. We went out yesterday to see what other brands offered and couldn't find anything that peaked her interest that came even close to the same mpg.
My biggest problems with this mess is that if you order a car the way you want it you should be able to get THAT CAR in a reasonable amount of time. You shouldn't have to call or email for updates when you get a delivery date. You shouldn't have to have your date changed (I'm on the 4th date now). And lastly you shouldn't have to have anyone look for a different car, different model or a different color because the car you ordered should deliver the way you ordered it.
Once my car arrives I expect to get my trade-in valued with the miles and condition it was in on the first estimated delivery. I will also pressure for compensation for the excessive wait. And I will also insist on an extended warranty (without a deductible) if my car delivers after they start taking orders for 2013's. My reasoning is that the car should not have been delayed past the first estimated delivery without a damn good reason (in writing) because "I don't know" is not acceptable. Everyone that has been delayed deserves compensation because you should be rewarded for not cancelling your order. The extended warranty is to make up for the fact that once the 2013 orders start your 2012 is a year old whether or not you have received it.
Best of luck with your order and I highly suggest calling SOA so they can log your delays and to make them aware that you are considering cancelling.
By the way I'm still waiting on an email from SOA that I was supposed to get last Thursday. If the email does not include a solid delivery date for the car I ordered I am going to ask them to ship a similar car from either PA or IL at their cost. Monday will be day 107 from the date of order so the reasonable delivery time for me has been gone for quite some time.
Was given a delivery date of May 2nd for 2 weeks ago, and a VIN number about a week ago. Got a call on Friday that the car just arrived on the lot, and I picked it up last night. Pretty decent buying experience, Finance did sell me on the CLIA protection (interior and exterior) and considering I will be transporting 2 toddlers quite a bit, we got it for $512. Looks like the wait times in the Seattle is spot on at 8 weeks. Been happy with the 30 mile drive so far, very impressed with the handling and the room for a car of this size. We went out to dinner last night with 3 adults, a 4month old and a 22month old, and we managed to all fit pretty comfortably. Our 15 mile commute is something we are going to look forward to...at least for a while
How many engines have you driven well over 100K miles in order to prove, AND DISPROVE, your theory?
Do you have anything to actually contribute to the thread, or are you just wasting time in your mommy's basement?
Just did the break-in procedure on the car as you recommended. The manual paddle shifters were indeed useful while doing this on my CVT.
Also, did google around and found this Popular Mechanics article that pretty much backs up what you recommended.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/how-to/saturday-mechanic-blog/how-to-break-- in-a-new-car
Must say I really like the car, glad to have purchased the 2012 Impreza!
regards
I bet your gas bill is roughly half.
John
It reads the iphone fine, but sometimes it will stop playing on certain songs. I know it's not designed specifically for the 4s, but it's practically the same iphone.
I had the VC in my Forester and that car was fantastic in the snow.
Drove it all over the beaches of the Outer Banks - even once drove by an HD 4WD pickup that was too heavy to float on the soft sand. I have dozens of photos albums online for the doubtful haters.
The VC system is AWESOME and I can say that out of personal experience not speculative theory.
Why don't you get lost? :mad:
Demand is high and supply is short.