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3748The residuals are all over the place.

For the base model with 12k, it had a 58% residual. The hybrid was 54%.

These are all for 2012 models. The 2013 models are unknown, but we should figure things out tomorrow (July 3) when the new rates appear.

You have to watch out for the money factors. I live in South Florida, and some dealers like The Collection (Miami) and Champion (Pompano) try to cheat customer by adding an extra 40 points to the rates. Thus, they quote the .00120 rate as .00160. This is flat-out deception, and only those who know how leases work would be able to call them out. If you want to know what this type of cheating means, on a $90k Panny, the deceptive money factor quote adds around $3k to the price. As far as I know, the other dealers in Florida don't do this.

Let me sum up leasing in a few words. Once you negotiate the purchase price of the car (yes, you have to do this even for a lease), you are effectively paying for your "use" of the car, which is the difference between the purchase price and what the car is still worth when you are done (the "residual"). Plus, you have to pay the bank a finance charge to "borrow" the value of the car for the terms of the lease. When you are driving a $100k car, you are effectively borrowing the $100k for the term of the lease.

When you add your cost for the "use" of the car plus the finance charge to borrow the price of the car until you give it back, you get your lease charge. Spread this over the term of the lease, and you get your monthly payment.

I hope that this is helpful for everyone.

3Any idea if the Money factors and/or residiual changed for July?

I am looking for the MF and resifual for 10k or 12k miles per year/ 36 month lease for a base 2012 Panamera with the V-6 engine? Car is approx $82,600.

Thanks for the help.

3CAR MAN,

Any idea if the Money factors and/or residiual changed for July?

I am looking for the MF and resifual for 10k or 12k miles per year/ 36 month lease for a base 2012 Panamera with the V-6 engine? Car is approx $82,600.

Oh I forgot to ask, any incentives still out there like the guy above mentioned...

Thanks for the help.

5The base model would be .00200 MF and 58% residual (12k).

I have heard that the residuals for 2013 are about 2% lower for most models.

I believe the 2013 money factor is the same for the 2013 base, but the MF may have risen from .00120 to .00200 for all of the other models.

Any confirmations out there on the rates for the Panemera?

42I have been tracking this post and made a comment earlier. I just leased a 2012 Panamera 4S and paying $1538/month. The out the door price was $102,500. I put $8,000 down. It came to $1,450/month - 12K miles/yr, but I added a warranty package that covered wheels, windshield dings, door dings. After that it came to $1,538.

Sounds like you are looking at a regular V6 Panny. No money down on a 4S would have been $1,750 month. There seems to be a $200-$300 interval between Panny models when you lease them.

Just my 2 cents...I may be wrong in my assumption. I'm not an expert here

5I assume that this is a 36 month lease.

The next question is whether it is 10k, 12k, or 15k miles.

You have to consider an $895 lease acquisition fee and the typical "dealer" fee.

It is important to remember that the final payment is the "result" of many factors. When dealer asks you "what do you want to pay," they are banking on your lack of leasing knowledge to build in hidden profit. If you ask me if $1325 per month on a 3 year, 12k per year lease is high for a car of MSRP of $85k, I would say definitely yes. The dealer is charging you something around MSRP for the car, and they are likely building in a higher money factor to make more profit.

If you learn how a lease works, you can save thousands of dollars.

If you don't have time to figure this out, then you should be negotiating the purchase price of the car as if you are buying it. Then ask the dealer to insert this purchase information into the computer without doing any mark-ups on the "money factor." You should be able to get 90% of the way there if the dealer uses a true purchase price and does not mark up the money factor.

91Monthly payment is $899 + tax. 36 month lease on approved credit through Porsche Financial Services. $0.30 per mile penalty over 10,000 miles per year. $5,000 cap reduction, 1st payment, acquisition fees, and 1st year DMV fees due at delivery. No security deposit required. Stock #80329

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937I just took advantage of the program with my recent lease.

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109Could you kindly provide me with the buy rate and residual for a base Panamera on 24 & 36 month terms with 7,500, 10,000 and 12,000 miles.

Many Thanks.

38,515The residual value for a lease with 12,000 miles per year would be 1% higher. The 7,500 residual value would be 2% higher.

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109Best Regards

109Is the Conquest program still active on the Panamera? If so, when does it end?

Thanks Again.

38,515The conquest cash is indeed still available. It's scheduled to run through the end of the year, but I wouldn't be surprised in the least if it was extended past that.

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38,515The numbers for an otherwise identical 36-month lease are .00200 and 56%.

The residual values are 2% higher for leases with 12,000 miles per year and 3% higher for leases with 10,000 miles per year.

The last time I looked into the conquest program, Porsche was paying up to three remaining payments for current owners of select brands.

There isn't any loyalty cash on this model that I am aware of.

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1Also looking at a Panamera 4 and wondering if there is any real difference between the 2012 and 2013 models?

Thanks.

3Can you post November residual & MF for a 2013 Panamera GTS. 36 month / 10k Miles.

Thanks!

1Can you post November residual & MF for a 2013 Panamera 4S. 36 month and 12K Miles.

Also for the GTS 12K miles.

Thanks!!!

109Could you kindly post the December Buy Rate and Residual for a 36/10 and 36/12 Pani Platinum Ed. Additionally, is the Conquest Program still active.

Thanks Again

109As I may be taking delivery of my car prior to the end of this week, could you kindly post the December Buy Rate and Residual for a 36/10 and 36/12 Pani Platinum Ed. Additionally, is the Conquest Program still active, if so, is a Mini a qualifying vehicle.

Thanks Again