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Mazda CX-5

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  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    tfm_iv-

    Pleased to hear your report. 8,000 miles already? You must drive a lot!!

    My CX-5 is currently at the port in NJ and I should see it next week. My wife and I got the Touring AWD with tech & moon/bose. She will be the primary driver and does not prefer leather seats which is why we opted not to get the GT.

    We are also replacing the 2005 Mazda6 we have enjoyed for the last 7 years. The leather has held up perfectly , although I thought the Bose sound could have been better. I like the audio interface in the CX-5 much better and I have found the sound quality to be better than that of the 6 as well.

    In any event, glad to hear you are getting great fuel economy. I have been waiting to hear real-world results. I know the Skyactiv Mazda3's have been excellent, so I figured the CX-5 would hold it's own as well.

    Keep us posted as to your ownership experience. Thanks!
  • fonefixerfonefixer Posts: 247
    What is your impression of the interior quality of the Cx-5?
  • gooner_bnagooner_bna Posts: 1
    I am in the market for a new car after my Nissan dealership told me that I need a new tranny for my 05 Nissan Maxima (with 90k miles). I am really ticked off at Nissan right now after corporate showed me 2 middle fingers when I complained.

    Anyways, I test drove the CX-5 today and really liked it. I am seriously considering getting it. This will be my first Mazda. How does the Mazda reliability hold up against the Hondas and Toyotas? I would like to keep this car for a while.
  • tlongtlong CaliforniaPosts: 4,751
    It's just weird a company touting 'zoom-zoom' producing a CUV vehicle that has a 0-60 time of 9.2 seconds.

    It's not all about power. I drive an '05 Acura TL, and we also have an '07 Mazda 5. The Acura has 250 hp and the Mazda has 150 hp. Guess what? The Mazda is WAY more fun to drive - it has tighter steering, much smaller turning circle, much better steering feedback. The TL is as reliable as they come and is quiet and comfortable on the road - a great cruiser. But the Mazda is just fun.

    Unfortunately Honda used to have fun, good handling cars but those days have been mostly gone for some time now.
  • mrfusionrcmrfusionrc Posts: 1
    edited May 2012
    I can only speak for my experience, and mazda has been good to me. I bought a new 1993 Escort GT which was Ford's rebadged Mazda Protege with the mazda 1.8L and I put 230,000 miles on it and never had any issues at all. Can't kill those old GTs... I tried though lol. That's part of the reason I chose a mazda for my current work vehicle.

    Right now I'm looking to replace my 2006 Mazda5 that has 208,000 and still runs fantastic, although these have a history of eating tires and rattling suspension bushings.... mine included. But other than the tire issues, it's been a great car. It has never been in the shop except when I brought it in to have the suspension noise checked out before the 36k warranty was up.

    Nothing else has gone wrong, all I've done is change oil and tires, and one round of brake pads and shocks.... fronts at 160k and rear at 200k. Front end has some rattles again, but the engine still runs like new and I'm still driving it 150 miles a day and get 26-27mpg every tank. Kinda hate to part with the car, but 30-35mpg in a CX-5 would be nice also. :)
  • sporty10sporty10 Posts: 2
    My wife recently got a CX5 GT FWD & we have just completed a 1000 mile round trip in Florida. A few points of interest:
    Fuel consumption on the trip was 28 mpg at ave. speed of 75mph, 3 adults, 90% highway driving.
    Pros: Highway ride is fine. Noise levels moderate. Performance ok at speed. Satellite radio. Blind spot monitoring. Fuel economy very good.
    Cons: Transmission is very sensitive to any increase in gas pedal. It will drop too many gears if pedal is pushed a little to hard causing engine to roar with little increase in speed. Very annoying & can be frightening. This happened on our test drive as well so it's probably across the range & requires some software upgrade from Mazda down the road.
    Hood flutters disconcertingly at speed. I had to stop to check it was latched close.
    Drivers seat (leather in GT) is to too short & also became very uncomfortable after 3 hours of driving. To be fair I'm a big guy 6.2, 210 lbs.
    No power trunk (not even as an option???)
    Transmission display does not show gear you are in (just a "D")
    Overall my wife loves her CX5. It is nippy, nimble & economical.
  • slj333slj333 Posts: 4
    Thank you for sharing. I have test driven the Automatic as well as the manual. I agree that there is too much shifting with the automatic probably due to the low torque numbers on this engine. It is a sweet little engine though at high revs.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    edited June 2012
    Transmission display does not show gear you are in (just a "D")

    I believe when you switch to manual mode, it will tell you what gear you are in. This is standard practice with all the late model Mazda's.

    Transmission is very sensitive to any increase in gas pedal. It will drop too many gears if pedal is pushed a little to hard causing engine to roar with little increase in speed.

    It is by design and let me explain why. First, the transmission is designed to achieve maximum economy, so at a cruising speed, you will see little to no change and the transmission is a little quick to up-shift to a higher gear, as long as you are not on an incline. Second, why the transmission will jump gears is because it is designed to rev-match down shifts. This is what a dual-clutch does. It monitors vehicle angle and speed and it will chose the best gear to match your input on the accelerator. If you lightly press it, it down shifts one gear. If you floor the pedal, it will down shift several. It's all by design. Is it a little weird if you are not used to it? Absolutely. I found it strange myself too. Once you get used to driving the car, you know why it does what it does.
  • I'm now in to second month of leasing a Touring AWD.

    Even with the so called under-rated engine, I found the car to be plenty sufficient in acceleration so far (I haven't raced anyone).

    What I love most about this vehicle is that it drives like a car and not a SUV. I don't feel the vehicle "roll" side ways during sharp and sudden maneuvers (which I had to do couple of days ago on the freeway when a person changed the lane right in to mine).

    The car seem solid in every aspect (only more time can tell), and I don't have the hood flutter issue. No squeaks or rattles to date.

    Love the bluetooth connectivity to my Iphone both for hone function and music.

    Plenty of room for four adults and a car seat (all less than 6' tall).

    There is one thing I absolute dislike about this car....no remote trunk release (from driver seat or from your keys). You can only 'unlock' for someone in front of the trunk to open. This drives me nuts! :)

    Otherwise, fantastic vehicle so far.
  • m6userm6user Posts: 2,992
    Can't you just hit the unlock button on your remote fob twice to unlock all the doors including the rear "trunk" door?
  • tfm_ivtfm_iv Posts: 5
    It is a notch below my Mazda 6 in terms of the seats. They did not splurge anywhere in an effort to keep costs down. That being said, it was comparable to competitors, and slightly better than the other cars I looked at.
  • tfm_ivtfm_iv Posts: 5
    Maybe I'm just used to it, but I like the steering wheel controls on my 2003 Mazda 6 better, and my CDs (especially jazz and classical) sound much better than in the CX-5. When the signal is good, the HD radio in the CX-5 rocks. I find that it often switches back and forth between HD and normal, which may be due to the local radio stations more than the car.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    Yes, that is what has to be done. I don't see an issue with it since you need to physically lift the hatch open anyway. The button is right in the hatch handle.
  • tfm_ivtfm_iv Posts: 5
    I have to agree that there could be some more legroom for the driver.

    I like to put it in manual mode when driving in undulating and/or curvy terrain, both for the greater control over gear selection, and for the increased fun factor. I have experienced what you described with mashing the pedal in full auto mode, where the RPMs go up without matching acceleration.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    I find the Bose sound system far superior to the one in my Mazda6, by which I just traded for the CX-5. I did like the audio controls on the steering wheel better in the 6, but that could be because I was used to them. I also agree with you about the HD radio.
  • tfm_ivtfm_iv Posts: 5
    I had better luck with tires on my 2003 Mazda 6 (almost 260K miles) when I switched to Yokohamas, and later Kumho's.
  • jeisensc1jeisensc1 Posts: 7
    I have a CX-5 AWD GT with the Tech Package, so if I may:

    I believe when you switch to manual mode, it will tell you what gear you are in. This is standard practice with all the late model Mazda's.

    This is correct. I've caught mine in 6th gear doing 35 MPH on a flat city road.

    It is by design and let me explain why. First, the transmission is designed to achieve maximum economy, so at a cruising speed, you will see little to no change and the transmission is a little quick to up-shift to a higher gear, as long as you are not on an incline.

    This transmission has (my perception) a 2-3 second lag from when the clutch disengages to when it reengages. If you are using cruise control and driving up hill, you will lose speed by the time it downshifts (typically 2+ gears in my experience over 2,000 miles).

    If you floor the pedal, it will down shift several. It's all by design. Is it a little weird if you are not used to it? Absolutely. I found it strange myself too. Once you get used to driving the car, you know why it does what it does.

    I've had it downshift 3 or more gears when goosing the gas, and again it takes 2-3 seconds before the transmission engages again. There's nothing normal about it. I find this to be the choppiest automatic transmission I've ever driven (with automatic transmissions, I've owned 2 Accords, an Elanta, had a 2010 Mazda3 prior to the CX-5, and I spent over 100 days driving rental cars last year).

    I get that this transmission is designed to aggressively downshift to maximize fuel economy, but in my opinion there are many situations (e.g. highway passing, CC doing uphill) where the clutch lag makes this car UNSAFE to drive.

    The manual mode allows you to control what gear it's in, but the clutch seems to pop as soon as you shift up or down. There's no smooth "letting the clutch out" when you downshift, it immediately over-revs. The downshift in manual has the same effect, it's like slamming the clutch in, shifting, and immediately letting it out without allowing the engine to equalize.

    The CX-5 is really an incredible vehicle, which is rendered unfun and unsafe by its Skyactive automatic transmission.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    edited June 2012
    The CX-5 is really an incredible vehicle, which is rendered unfun and unsafe by its Skyactive automatic transmission.

    Allow me, if I may for I own one too....

    Mine has done no such thing, nor has any other owner or professional review notice such a thing either. The Skyactiv-Drive transmission has gotten nothing but rave reviews since it's debut several months ago.

    What I do notice is multiple down shifts under "pedal to the metal" situations, which is normal. It does like to stay in a higher gear for economy reasons, again by design.

    If your transmission is really taking 2-3 seconds to shift, you really should bring it to your dealer to have looked at. There might be a defect.
  • barneyrubblebarneyrubble Posts: 7
    edited June 2012
    Read all of the foregoing remarks since I am interested in the CX5. Sat in one quite a while ago, but no test drive yet. Test drove the CRV just the other day. Nice power and felt comfortable, clean and roomy. According to the specs the gas mileage is supposed to satisfy my expectations. I really liked the rear view camera since backing up close is a real hassle for me. Rear camera does not come in base model in the CX5, which is a bummer for me. You have to step up to the GS version. Steering wheel audio controls and Bluetooth are requirements for me. And, both would have them.

    ...... I am wondering if anyone noticed something awkward about the CRV though. When you lift the back tail gate it is really high up and very hard for a short person TO EVEN REACH IT TO PULL IT DOWN. I mentioned this negative to my salesperson and he said: " my mother uses a rope to pull her's down. " And, this is supposed to be a mom's car? I like the vehicle and it is still in contention so don't get me wrong. But, who thought or didn't think about this predicament for some?
  • pjo59pjo59 Posts: 1
    I wonder if there are any issues with your particular vehicle. I own a CX-5 GT and have not experienced any of these issues and have not seen these issues described in other forums. My transmission seems incredibly smooth. Hope you can get it fixed. :)
  • fastgstfastgst Posts: 46
    edited June 2012
    Does anyone know if they will do a custom order of Sport model in white? My sales guy claimed he had seen one. The mazda website and so far dealer inventory has shown it really is limited to 3 colors
  • fastgstfastgst Posts: 46
    I am interested to get the base model which doesn't have the lane changing warning.
    I couldn't really tell if there is a driver side blind spot due to the huge price sticker, but I could see the passenger side just fine.
  • carteachcarteach Posts: 179
    Is the blind spot warning available now?
  • johnptjohnpt Posts: 7
    I'm very interested in buying a CX-5 AWD AT6 Touring model, but it looks like I'm going to have to wait awhile for my dealer to find one without a black interior (wanting Blue/Sand color scheme as the best of the few available color options). Anyway, I plan to use the vehicle to spend most of lits life tooling around the city (so I'm looking forward to the superior gas mileage compared to my current guzzler), but also twice a year to drive between Minnesota and Texas while hauling a small trailer of the "stuff" we can't seem to live without for 4-8 months at a time. I should mention that we also have a 100-lb Labrador making the trip with us, so that leaves little trunk space, hence the need to pull a small trailer if we plan to carry anything more than myself, my spouse, the dog, and a suitcase or two.

    The dealer only offers a Class 1 hitch option (dealer-installed), but I am hoping for something bigger like a Class 2 or Class 3 hitch. He says he can send me to an afternmarket shop to get that added. Do any of you have experience with pulling a ton or so of trailer behind your CX-5? I've been doing this with a year-2000 Lexus RX-300 with V6 and AT, which has been "beefy enough" but certainly not overly high-powered for the task. I'm tired of the 18 MPG city and 15 MPG highway-while-pulling-trailer fuel consumption, plus it's getting a bit long in the tooth. I really want the higher mileage of the CX-5 as long as I'm not going to be putting my safety in jeopardy by pulling the trailer twice a year x 1200 miles... I'm also interested in knowing what is a reasonable expectation for an added roof rack. Not planning to load luggage on top while also pulling a trailer, the roof rack would be for "other" unrelated functions...

    Thanks in advance for any helpful advice I can glean from all of you who've taken the plunge before me. :)
  • typeteetypetee Posts: 1
    I am in similar situation and have related question. I've always driven manual transmissions but the CX5 trim level is very sparse with the manual, plus I've driven the auto and found it pretty nice, in particular the manual mode. However I wonder about long-term reliability because I sometimes carry a fair amount of weight long distances at high speed, plus interested in towing. I wonder if that fancy auto trans can handle it? With a manual I feel much more in control of how hard I push it and can baby the clutch as needed; my clutches tend to last forever.

    Also I wonder a bit about long-term reliability of that 13:1 compression engine especially if it has to work hard.

    One thing to which I can testify: pulling a heavy trailer and/or stuff on the roof, you will get reduced mileage no matter what. It simply takes more energy. My current vehicle is a 98 Passat wagon, 4cyl 150hp turbo which gets typically 30mpg highway, but on a recent drive to Texas with a full load and a box on the roof at 75-80 mph through strong winds I got about 22.

    Interested in hearing others' experiences with low-powered cars, auto transmissions, and loading them down.
  • jeisensc1jeisensc1 Posts: 7
    If your transmission is really taking 2-3 seconds to shift, you really should bring it to your dealer to have looked at. There might be a defect.

    It was in for service on 6/7. The service tech drove it and said it was fine. The service manager drove it, said it was driving as designed, and called me. I reviewed my issues with him, he downloaded whatever configuration information is stored in the car, compared to the baseline (identical), and sent it to his regional service director. He test drove another CX-5 (AWD but not GT iirc), and said it shifts identically to mine.

    I wrote up a list of reproducible, unsafe scenarios I found myself in during a 1,000 mile road trip. The regional service director is coming down on Thursday to check it out, I'm dropping it off on Wednesday (I'll be out of town on business).

    If I didn't say in the original post, I'm comparing to (among other cars I've driven) the 2010 Mazda3 GT that I drove for three years before trading for the CX-5. In the mean time, I've been driving it in manual mode.
  • jeisensc1jeisensc1 Posts: 7
    My CX-5 AWD GT w/Tech has the blind spot warning on it. I didn't even realize until several days after I got the car. It's nice.
  • jeisensc1jeisensc1 Posts: 7
    I'm very interested in buying a CX-5 AWD AT6 Touring model, but it looks like I'm going to have to wait awhile for my dealer to find one without a black interior (wanting Blue/Sand color scheme as the best of the few available color options). Anyway, I plan to use the vehicle to spend most of lits life tooling around the city (so I'm looking forward to the superior gas mileage compared to my current guzzler), but also twice a year to drive between Minnesota and Texas while hauling a small trailer of the "stuff" we can't seem to live without for 4-8 months at a time. I should mention that we also have a 100-lb Labrador making the trip with us, so that leaves little trunk space, hence the need to pull a small trailer if we plan to carry anything more than myself, my spouse, the dog, and a suitcase or two.

    Once you get your hitch question answered (no idea here), I'd recommend your dealer ordering the car you want, and just wait for it. I went to the dealership the day the CX-5 arrived to test drive it: they had 2 (a GT that didn't have a stock number yet, and a non-GT that did). I would have bought the GT on the lot, but it wasn't PDI'ed and no stock number so they couldn't sell it. I asked the salesperson to follow up the next day, he didn't, it was gone by the time I checked back a few days earlier. When I turned in my 2010 Mazda3 lease about 7 weeks later, they were able to grab the config/color I wanted just as it had been built for their allocation, and when it arrived at the port in Tacoma they put the PIO's (class 1 hitch, remote start) on before it landed. It was like waiting for the exact car you want, except about half the time (4-5 weeks).

    There is still short supply (though getting better), but my recommendation is to have the dealer order it for you if that's what you want. I was looking for the same interior when the 2010 Mazda3 landed in April 2009, I didn't have time to wait to order it, so I ended up taking what I could get.
  • lars21lars21 Posts: 2
    I sold a jeep liberty that would tow anything you could hook it to and got the cx-5 gt awd with tech package in white/sand. Love the vehicle, but I would hesitate to tow much with it. The drive train seems awfully nervous.
  • lars21lars21 Posts: 2
    I paid 700 less than msrp for gt awd with tech package. Hard to find the white/sand model. My wife loves the car and it is a hoot to drive, though a little under powered compared to my honda accord ex coupe six cylinder. great grocery getter and commuter, and the handling and breaking are sooo fun, I scare the heck out of my wife.
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