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The other two methods work well also...
Yes, slipping the clutch will wear it. Also, every time you press the brakes they wear. Same concept...
http://www.howstuffworks.com/clutch.htm
http://www.howstuffworks.com/transmission.htm
http://www.howstuffworks.com/engine.htm
-twylie
TJGreen
Basically all it does is use a series of high pressure water streams.
What about the detergents these washes use, are they too harsh for the soft-top or windows?
Thanks!
I really want one this year. I could always wait for the restyle next year or the Liberty, but learning from my brother's experience I don't know if I would go with a first year model.
Sorry for the long post. Thanks for the great reading.
Thelma has a paint run on her right rear corner, but it is so minor that I decided not to have it repainted- would rather keep the baked-on factory paint. Also, as everyone knows, the paint on her hard top blistered and flakd off in one place, and the entire top was repainted at DC's expense. I know you have the soft top, though.
Are you completely satisfied with "fit and finish?" Any mechanical problems? I know it's early, but a lot of problems are usually there on day one, if you are ever going to have them at all.
Thelma has had not one mechanical problem so far after 5700 miles. Just the paint defects is all that I have encountered with her.
tsjay
Have you hugged that new Jeep today?
Heel and toe: I was going to mention that, really, but then thought it might not apply here (I use it.). I guess it does.
high pressure washes: one good way to test if a top is waterproof (do this before buying)
going to try to go look at the a black 60th anniversary tomorrow. Dealer emailed me told me he got 2 in today.. I think I can smell my jeep getting closer...
good to have you back tsjay...
Saharanut
(terry)
I'm with you, man, on the 60th over the Sahara. I like the Sport just fine, and I would get another one today, if I had it to do over, but I really like the 60th too.
Now, you buddies with Saharas don't get upset with me. We all have our individual tastes, and I'm glad we do! Wouldn't it be sad if we all had the same model in the same color? Yuk!
tsjay
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
tsjay
1. there is a slight catch coming out of 5th gear. It was pretty noticable at first and seems to be getting better. It feels like a burr on the left side of the gate and is only there when coming out of 5th. I do have the slight clunk noise when the car has been in gear, you push in the clutch, take it out of gear and then release the clutch (clunk).
2. very minimal paint in the rear verticle groove at the back corners of the vehicle. I didn't see any runs anywhere on the vehicle.
3. there is a 1 to 2" by 15" strip at the back of the body tub on the passengers side where they missed on the undercoating. If this is done by hand, maybe the line worker sneezed. If it's done by robotics, the guns are WAY misaligned.
4. the upper half door on the drivers side is very poorly stitched. The passenger door looks good, but the stitching where the plastic window meets the surrounding top, there is a gap of almost 3/4". This is only noticable from the inside. It doesn't look like it will leak, but it should not have made it past quality ocntrol. I'll post some pics on the site this weekend so you can see what I'm trying to describe. This is the only thing so far I would be willing to complain about, but if this is the worst thing wrong with my Jeep, I'll be quite happy.
5. I checked my air pressure last night after I got home and had 39lbs in each tire! I dropped it to 30 and will try the chalk mark across the tread this weekend to see how the tires are rolling. Glad I checked this before I put too many miles on them. All other fluids checked out OK at the dealer before I left and the next day at the house. I just plain forgot to check the tires until last night.'
Overall the quality control and fit n finish is about what I expected. My expectations were not very high and they were met . That said, I didn't buy a Jeep to get Lexus quality materials and close tollerances, but overall, the TJ is pretty well put together.
The Rock-It bars from Turbo City showed up and will go on this weekend. I'll post before and after pics on the site for anyone interested. The install looks pretty simple; mount to the side body mount, drill a few holes in the frame and install with self tapping bolts. I will pick up the right size tap tomorrow as I've heard some mixed reviews of the self tapping bolts.
-twylie
tsjay
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
"KENNEDY CAR PASSES INTO MEMORABILIA
John F Kennedy Jr's 1995 Jeep, which he drove to a New Jersey airport the night of his fatal flight, sold for $57,100 on-line through eBay Motors.
There were 81 bids for the green Wrangler Sahara, which normally goes for $13,000 retail.
The buyer, from Shreveport, LA, wants to remain anonymous, but eBay Motors' general manager said the person was a longtime Kennedy admirer who wanted to drive the car.
The eBay purchase includes a copy of the title bearing Kennedy's name and Manhattan address as well as a photograph of him in the driver's seat."
oldjeepguy
We went through the same decision process before buying our Wrangler. Do we buy a 95 in good shape or go newer? We ended up getting an '01 since we really liked the ride of the coil suspension and as you noted earlier, they late model Jeeps hold their resale pretty well. We were only looking at saving 3-5k if we bought used.
Good luck in your Jeep hunting.
-twylie
Later
Sounds like you are getting the problems pinpointed on your Jeep. I just thought I would mention, in case no one has yet, that you could void your warranty by drilling into your frame. DC sometimes takes a very dim view of modifications to your Jeep and they will use modifcations against you if anything happens in the future. The fact is that DC has to prove the modification is a direct influence on the problem you have, but various dealerships have been known to void warranties for items that later were proved in court to be of no consequence to the reason for the problems of the Jeep. Everyone has a different reason for aftermarket and many are not needed for type of offroading most people do. It is important to decide what you are planning on really doing with a Jeep before adding items to a Jeep that could potentionally cause you warranty problems down the road. If you plan on keeping the Jeep for a long period of time, it is sometimes better to wait awhile before adding a lot of items to the Jeep. Drive it stock for a while at first and get to know it, it is a perfectly capable machine even in the stock form. Many of the modifications we read about people doing are 1) Overkill and 2) Not necessary in all areas of the US. So think about how you plan on really using your Jeep and how long you plan on having it before you add any aftermarket parts that require drilling into anything. Remember, it you ever take those things off, you are going to have holes in your frame that will not match up to anything but those bars and it gives DC one more excuse not to honor a warranty. Just something to think about. I am not against aftermarket accesories, I just like to remind people that there are negatives to adding items to our Jeeps and some of these items are not needed by everyone in the first place. Hope you enjoy your Jeep and get the problems all pinpointed and worked out to your satisfaction.
Steve
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The side bars are going to be used 95% for steps and we disliked the way the factory steps looked.
Thanks again for the warning.
-twylie
is there anything you would have done different
when buying your jeep?
"should have done?"
"shouldnt have done?"
Just wondering...
Thanx
Saharanut
(terry)
For the price of a used 97+ I might as well get a new 2K1 Wrangler.
Mike
See above postings for info on the automatic. I have no idea about the engine block heater and have never lived in a place cold enough to need one. Are you in Alaska or something?
Mike
Steve
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Best used at temps below like 10F...
We get below 0F where I live in arizona quite frequently. I put a heavy duty timer on my block heater set for 5:30 am allowing an hour or two of warmup. Will improve engine life, battery life, when used in really cold weather....
Steve
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I know there is always a chance that the car you get could have some problems. I just want to get a model were they have most of those things worked out. I guess I am looking at buying a 2K1 Wrangler. What's the word on the next remodeling? Internet rumors say that they are going to do away with the soft top. Are there any changes for the 2K2 model? Thanks again.
If you feel the need to have both sets of doors, there are many options. At QTec, full steel doors are $1400, half steel doors are $1100, plus $200 for the soft uppers. This is the high end of the price range and in comparison, it appears to be close to a wash if you go this route. You can get fiberglass lower half doors for $550, plus $200 for the uppers, = total $700 + the $200 difference to upgrade soft to hard doors = $900 gets you both sets. Again, this is just a few of the options available. Drive some and see what you like. The least expensive option is what many people do... get the full doors and completely remove them when the top is off (may need to move mirrors). This gives you full doors and open air feeling when you want it.
Good luck in your JeepQuest...
-twylie
Things I would do different?
1. I would get the TracLoc rear end for snow and ice
2. I would get either the dual tops or maybe just the soft top. I didn't think that I would be all that interested in going topless, but since I have had Thelma, I can see that I am going to want the top off much more than I originally thought that I would.
I test drove a couple 2001's with the soft top, and the wind noise wasn't bad at all. The top has been improved on the 2001's and is now 4-ply.
I originally didn't like the half doors, but if I got the soft top, I think that I would also get the half doors.
That's really all that I would do differently. I am totally in love with that Little Thelma Jane, and I have NOT ONE regret about getting a Jeep as my daily driver.
tsjay
HAve you hugged your Jeep today?
just not much snow or ice here...he says its overkill here...
i will be getting the daul tops...
probably get half doors later down the road..
Went to look at the black 60's today.
they look great..very nice interior..
now if was only MINE!!
take care
Saharanut
Terry
The TracLoc is only an extra $285 if you are already getting the Dana 44 rear end, but it's up to you whether it is worth it or not. I would sure get it if I had it to do over again. Goducks1 says that it makes a huge difference on slick roads.
I guess I wouldn't let that stop me though, if a vehicle in someone's inventory had everything else that I wanted except TracLoc.
I stopped and looked at a black 60th at a dealership that I passed on the way home from Illinois the other day. It was the same dealership that I passed every week on my way to and from Illinois when I had to make that trip weekly. That's where I fell in love with a white Sport with a black hard top this past summer and stopped to drool going up to Ill and also coming back.
Anyway, that baby was sharp! You would do well to get a black 60th or the silver either one. I haven't seen a silver 60th live and in person yet, but I love that silver color on the Sports.
tsjay
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
As for Track-Lock, I like it and would recommend it if you will drive in low-traction situations. I live in New England and have had plenty of chances to test its capabilities on bad road surfaces and will back up Goducks on its capabilities.
You only get to buy a new car every so many years, so buy the car you want. If you hit enough dealers you will eventually find one who has the one you want. I drove 200 miles to get the Wrangler I would have ordered from the factory.
-cwk.
Mike
A locker will "lock up" both wheels and give you no slip. This is great for the serious off reader because in any situation both wheel will turn regardless of traction but they are a handful to drive in the snow and they do clunk and bang if you power into a sharp turn. Advantage of a locker is they are very durable and strong and don't wear out and offer true 100% power to both wheels. Disadvantage is they are noisy, tire wear out a little faster and maybe a handful to drive in the snow and other situations.
Open axle are the stock set up but if one wheel gets no traction all the power will go to that wheel. Open axles are cheaper and easier to drive in the snow but for a serious off reader they may get you stuck. Advantages of an open axle is no extra cost, quiet and generally the best for smooth operation all around and the quietest. Disadvantage is they may leave you stuck if one wheel loses traction.
I'll bet you're glad to be back out in Vegas. How's that Jeep doing? Getting out in the desert and playing any?
Don't forget the chat tonight!
tsjay
Havwe you hugged your Jeep today?