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2014 Redesigned Corolla out this September

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  • mcdawggmcdawgg Posts: 1,666
    Well, I wonder how many base models they will sell and at what price? Probably not many. Would I buy one? No, but Toyota has a better idea than any of us how many base models with 4 speed automatic they will sell and at what profit, so I can't play arm-chair quarterback.

    You have to remember that even though it is a 4 speed auto, that Consumer Reports' real world MPG testing showed that the 2011 was rated the 3rd best MPG, only beat by a hybrid and a diesel. Not bad, I'd say.

    Still, yes, it is surprising, and I would recommend that people that want automatic go for the CVT, due to the lower rpms and higher mpg, but for the higher mpg, first I'd have to see the pricing of all the models.
  • jimbob_seekerjimbob_seeker Posts: 1
    edited September 2013
    A 5 or 6 speed automatic transmission is nice. However, the 4 speed automatic is reliable and doesn't perform badly. Even with the lowly regarded (by some) 4 speed automatic, the 2010-2012 Corolla was delivering excellent "real world" fuel economy.

    If it keeps the price of the car down, I believe there will be some buyers who will be interested as there are many drivers who cannot tell the difference between a 6 speed and a 4 speed transmission and don't really care.

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  • when i got echo plus I thought the button start was no big deal, dealt with it for many years prior in older corolla but then I checked how much for a third key to coin a phrase used by the other gender oh my god

    but on the positive seems like a improvement over old models like the dash and radio nice, cvt is nicer the sentra
  • Would I buy this car? No, I like driving and I don't even want to test drive a toyota. Would it sell? Definitely, better than Mazda and Ford and any other "driver's car". Most of us commenting on this forum are car enthusiasts who take driving experience over comfort and reliability. The fact is, we are only minorities and most people on this planet never take driving that seriously and a conservative, reliable transport is their best option.
  • terceltomterceltom Posts: 1,017
    Boy I would really have to disagree with you on that statement. I would argue just the opposite ; I would say the majority of readers and posters on this site by a big margin would take a car with safety, comfort, reliability, price and reputation over show anytime.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,618
    edited September 2013
    If that were true, we'd have more than 28 posts in this discussion on the all-new 2014 Corolla. ;)
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    Backy, you are correct!

    On a side note. I stopped in at Enterprise Rent-A-Car today, and there were already 2 2014 Corolla's there. My local Toyota dealer only has one, a black S model.

    Looks like Toyota is trying to get a jump on sales figures by selling to fleet off the rip...
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,618
    Actually I like having cars like the new Corolla available to rent when on business trips; it lets me get a much better take on them than I could with a test drive. It's through rental experiences that I've decided to seriously consider a particular model... or NOT consider it, in the case of the past few generations of Corollas. ;)
  • terceltomterceltom Posts: 1,017
    Why all the talk about fuel efficiency then?
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,618
    What talk about fuel efficiency?

    But that would be logical to discuss wrt the Corolla... sure won't be any discussion about its crisp handling! ;)
  • As far as a 4 speed auto goes....on my 2004 Corolla......200,000 miles....no maintenance.....and no problems what so ever......I am sticking to what has worked for me in the 2014 Corolla.....it remains to be seen if a CVT transmission.....with its Rubber Band inside.....can do 200,000 in ten years with no problems what so ever....and if it can.....will probably need thousands in maintenance........I will let others be the guinea pigs......I will take what
    works great for 200,000 miles
  • terceltomterceltom Posts: 1,017
    I don't get it, what do you mean when you say "rubber band inside"?
  • Terceltom....in auto circles the CVT transmission is known as the "Rubber Band Transmission"....look into it.....the transmission is driven by a rubber belt inside the transmission....this rubber belt runs up and down between two...cone shaped wheels.....one of these cone shaped wheels is powered by the engine...the other cone shaped wheel is connected to the drive wheel....but...do a full research job.....so you know what you are getting...you make the choice...
  • mcdawggmcdawgg Posts: 1,666
    True - some people knock Toyota for the 4 speed auto, but that thing is built like a tank, no issues at all, and it is still very fuel efficient, all things considered.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,618
    I checked out the 2014 Corolla today as I had some time to kill. Found a bright blue Sport Plus with 6MT on the show floor, $22k sticker, no options (except there was another sticker on the windshield mentioning "accessories" and an over-$23k asking price. I hope it's not the 80s-90s again with those dealer-inflated stickers!!). I didn't ask to drive one because I didn't want to waste anyone's time; I won't be getting another car for a couple of years or so.

    The good news is, the interior trim, especially the dash and center console, is light-years ahead of the last few generations of Corollas in appearance and materials quality. Looked quite upscale with piano-black and metal (faux metal?) trim, and padded surfaces. The wheel was leather covered and grippy. Unfortunately, it doesn't telescope out very far, so my arms were straighter than I wished. But otherwise the manual driver's seat was comfortable.

    The other good news is, there's tons of leg room in back now. Plus there was plenty of toe space under the driver's seat, so I could really stretch out. (Sometimes there's enough leg room, but no toe space.) And the back seat cushion is high enough for good thigh support. So a pretty comfy place to be even for a couple of good-sized adults. Would be nice though if in a $22k car there was a rear center armrest, as on most competitors.

    The lack of a rear center armrest was one sign of cost-cutting. Another was the vinyl/cloth interior in this $22k car. It was nice enough looking, but considering some competitors such as the Elantra offer leather (with front/rear seat heaters) for the same money, would be nice to see real skins for this price.

    At least Toyota does offer a stick with upscale trim, including a moonroof. That's hard or impossible to get on some competitors on upscale trim levels. Another nice touch on the Corolla is honest-to-goodness protective side moldings, which have become very rare on new models.

    So a pretty nice car, but unless I really needed the big rear seat, I'd most likely favor a car like the Mazda3i, which in Touring trim with moonroof is ~$1000 less sticker than the Corolla, and I bet a lot more fun to drive.
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