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Acura has a great ad for this car!
I see plenty of CLs around. No one else makes affordable upmarket personal coupes anymore, so it makes sense for Acura to do so.
LOL... That's a good one too. My favorite one is where the guy drives from NY- I think- to Maine for LUNCH! The guy in the restaurant asks if he's on vacation. He says no- LUNCH!! That's me! I love to drive this car.
The only thing I don't like about the ads is there is no talking until the END! I have the TV on next to me while I'm on the computer. I always miss their commercials unless I'm looking at the TV! They need to jazz them up a bit to catch your attention at the BEGINNING of the commercial.
fastdriver
The one I don't care for is the one where they push the sound system. Quite frankly, it isn't a very good sound system. Not terrible. But, not very good.
"Acura had planned an early sendoff for the 2003 CLs, which are now in showrooms, but the model's long-term future is in some doubt. That's according to one recent Japan-based report saying that Honda is thinking of dropping the CL unless sales improve fairly soon."
Not only that, here's a picture of the 2003 Accord Coupe that will probably have a 6-speed with 240 hp. Picture and info is from Edmunds. Check out the link:
http://www.edmunds.com/future/2003/honda/accord/2drcoupe/photo_1.html
Looks very much like the Acura CL but will probably cost $10,000 less. Bummer!
IMO, I doubt very much the Accord coupe will be $10,000 less than a comparable CL. My CL was $25,595 in April 2001, with about $300 worth of dealer options at no charge. An Accord Coupe EX V6 was $23,000, IIRC. I was comparison shopping the two at the time.
Overall the CL is a much better car, even if they share "platforms". The sound system was better on the Accord though.
Gee... I'm looking into the 2nd car thing now and keep wondering about that CL-S 6-speed... I wonder how much it'd go for...
My 2002 Maxima feels more drifty in the rain than my CL ever did. That could have to do with the 17 rims and tires, though. Who knows.
Hope I helped!
Obi
I need more help than you will EVER know!
Obi
Just curious, but did you consider waiting for the G35 coupe, and did you cross-shop against cars such as the BMW 330ci?
I sold my 2001 CL-S w/navi and 38,000mi for US$22,000 privately. Classified ad in the county newspaper started Saturday, had an offer Sunday, closed the deal Tuesday morning. I didn't really consider the G35. I'm pretty loyal to Honda/Acura and didn't really like the looks of the G35. I didn't consider the 300ci either. For one, US$43-45k for a comparably equipped car would have killed my budget. And since I plan to keep this one a while, I didn't want a car that would kill me on maintenance after the warranty runs out. Besides, this is SoCal and every self-absorbed prick has a BMW. They're a dime a dozed out here. No thanks. I liked my 01 CL-S, just not the auto transmission.
Now, I'm not saying your case might not turn into one that qualifies for lemon law. So, my advice is to start documenting everything. By that I mean get copies of all service orders, write down everything the service reps say, even seemingly off-the-cuff remarks, note all the symptoms of the problem that you've encountered. If this case turns into a lemon case, all that will be invaluable. I went thru an arbitration case and that's what my experience was.
Here in California, the manufacturer has four attempts to fix the problem before you can file. If it's safety related, such as airbags or brakes, I believe it's only one or two attempts.
We haven't had any problems with our '01 CL, except for the moonroof squeal/rattle.
It could be that the heat shield for the catalytic converter has broken its welds and is rattling. I think the shield is just tack welded on there.
A mechanic would be able to tell. *shrug*
The car so far has been nearly flawless. I typically use it for a 25 mile round-trip commute, all on surface streets, and in that role, it has returned a steady 21 mpg. I drove from Chicago to Dallas and back in late May, and the CL really hit its stride on the Interstate. Peak mileage just brushed 30 mpg with the cruise control set at 75 mph. The car is a wonderful highway cruiser, making the return trip (just under 1000 miles) non-stop, without any driver fatigue. Great seats.
Complaints: The fuel lid release can be balky, even after adjustment by the dealer service department. The engine idle seems a *bit* lumpy at times. Styling is a bit bland. The car rides too high on its suspension.
That's it!
Also, just a little nitpick - technically, the CL *is* a sedan. A 2-door sedan, but a sedan none the less.
Several of my friends have expressed desire for Accord coupes. The "old man and his wife" marketing for the CL is working, apparently, because young people don't want em as much as Accords. That's a pity, because the CL needs more customers.
mapman, personal luxury coupes have always been "2-door sedans." Big and rooooomy.
Ugh ... what a waste.
Even the new Mazda 6, which is easily the best looking of the new sedans on the outside, has that same "silver/gray plastic everywhere" interior that is in the RSX, Altima, 350Z, IS300, Celica, Rav4, etc.
I think they think it looks "sporty". I think it looks cold, harsh, and cheap. Give me wood, leather, and smooth lines anyday.
BEST car I EVER owned! 18 coats of Zaino so far- I think. Last coat applied last MARCH? and the car looks great! Been too busy doing other things. No time for Zaino! I'm losing my addicition here! LOL... If the car didn't look so good, I would have had about 10 coats of Z on by now! ;-))
fastdriver
LOL.. how'd I know that you would be the first to respond! Hate mall parking lots! Don't go there often. Nothing I have to buy!
As for the Z, I'm losing count. It's either 15 or 18 coats.
fastdriver
fastdriver
Sometimes I think Chrysler is involved in the PC world with the way they work sometimes! ;-))
Anyone hear anything about any changes coming with the CL's or TL's?
fastdriver
Thanks. Too bad because I like 2 doors! Oh well. When my lease is up, there are plenty of other choices. The new G-35 Infiniti coupe coming out in Novemeber looks interesting.
fastdriver
The mechanicals sound great, though!
Take a look at some of the American cars with their new Star Wars looking interiors. Like they say, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. If it comes to that, I'll take "UGLY" and RELIABLE anyday over good looking and unreliable!
My previous "looker car" was enough for me! I'll take my "boring" looking CL-S, reliable car anyday!
fastdriver
I agree. A lot of ugly in many US cars, too. But, the new Japanese cars have more of that "Star Wars" stuff, easily. I've never seen so much silver/gray plastic in widespread use.
It's the current trend. And they have a very trendy culture.
As for ugly and reliable vs. good-looking and unreliable? It depends on how unreliable, because I refuse to drive an ugly car. Of course, beautiful and reliable would be my choice! :-)
Must be women, because I don't think of Honda-Acura products as unreliable!
Good to see it is working properly again!
Obi
How does the LSD in the current CL Type s 6 speed compare to the ATTS in the Prelude Type SH? I can only think that the ATTS system is active and does not aid in launching the car from a stop, but is phenomenal in the corners while the LSD waits for wheel spin to occur and helps eliminate torque steer and makes the car easier to launch.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
I think LSD basically activates when there is a difference in wheel speed whereas the ATTS will reallocate power based on a combination of wheel speed, yaw rate, lateral acceleration, and steering angle.