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These are the numbers from IFS (Infiniti Financial Services).
Read as LEASE TERM IN MONTHS-RESIDUAL VALUE/MONEY FACTOR
FX35 2WD
24-59%/.00175=4.2%
36-51%/.00175=4.2%
39-50%/.00174=4.18%
42-47%/.00168=4.03%
48-41%/.00159=3.82%
FX35 AWD
24-61%/.00210=5.04%
36-53%/.00210=5.04%
39-52%/.00205=4.92%
42-47%/.00169=4.06%
48-43%/.00186=4.46%
FX45 AWD
24-61%/.00190=4.56%
36-52%/.00190=4.56%
39-51%/.00188=4.51%
42-46%/.00151=3.62%
48-43%/.00187=4.49%
As you can see, IFS (Infiniti Financial Services) expects that an FX would be worth about 41% to 43% of its initial value after 48 months. So, I would assume that this would be the going rate for the FX after said 48 months has passed. The market may dictate otherwise. In general, I find that Nissan/Infiniti vehicles depreciate faster than Honda/Toyota. It does not seem to matter to the market if the vehicles have bulletproof build quality. I think that if one buys a Nissan/Infiniti, be prepared to keep it for a long time. They are excellent vehicles, anyway.
Apparently the Pacifica is the first Chrysler vehicle put out with a lot of MB input, in fact it even uses some MB parts. I thought it at least deserved a look-see.
Who can understand Infiniti's marketing strategy, the rear seat DVD should be a stand alone option.
I don't understand Infinities low resale value either. My TL-S is a year older and has double the mileage of my wife's G35 but it's worth more!! I know this because I've been checking on the values in case I decide to trade one in on a FX45 or similar vehicle.
1) Its smaller than I thought. Its actually 2-3" shorter than my A6. I think the 20" wheel and aggressive stance give it a large appearance.
2) Seeing it from the front and rear live is a treat. I conveys a strong sense of presence.
3) My dealer had 10 (35s and 45s) in stock which surprised me. I thought they would be taking orders hand over fist.
4) Sat Radio (XM or Sirius) is not available yet per the dealer. Is that true?
5) Disappointed by the interior. Coming from the A6 which is very friendly in the inside, the FX is sterile. I also don't like the seat controls on the top of the seat. Either I will be hitting that moving around or I'll be playing with my seat in traffic.
6) Loved the manual adjustable Xenon lights. Also like the fact that the rear seats can recline.
7) Lastly, I almost pulled the trigger, but I'm concerned around reliability the first year out. Anyone have thoughts on that?
I think Nissan suffers from being perceived as the 3rd best Japanese manufacturer eventhough I feel that their products are equal if not better than Honda's or Toyota's. I think that due to this perception, it seems that Nissan is more likely to discount their products than Honda or Toyota. Also, Honda does not have fleet sales, e.g. for car rental companies and Toyota, I believe, does this in limited numbers. Nissan, however, does a lot of fleet sales. I actually look for Nissans when I rent a car since I know they will be the best vehicles in the lot.
Regarding the G35, in the U.S., Kelly Blue Book (KBB) has announced a forecast of 10 vehicles that would hold their value better in the next 10 years. The Infiniti G35 was one of the 10. I hope this holds true since I think that the G35 is a better car than the TL-S (not meaning to start a G35 vs. TL-S discussion here).
I wholeheartedly agree!
Personally, I'm a big fan of the models that N/I is turning out (even if they are using one engine in 80% of their vehicles
Now, the question--
The wife wants a SUV-type vehicle (e.g., Lexus RX), I want a sportier car (G35 coupe)... is the solution [compromise] to get the FX, or is better to get one of our cars now and then save up for the other car?
Definitely a personal call, but I'd be interested in hearing other people's opinions.
(We did test drive a FX35 and liked it quite a bit-- it didn't exhibit any body roll! The only things I didn't like were the lack of a manual transmission, and the 3.5 engine seemed like it wasn't the best for this size [weight] of a vehicle)
Vehicle Description Invoice Price
2003 Infiniti FX35 4dr All-wheel Drive Base 32,616.00
Options
Premium Package 2,240.00
Sport Package 1,121.00
Roof Rails 259.00
Cross-Bars 191.00
Total of Options 3,811.00
Total of Base Vehicle and Options 36,427.00
Total of Base Vehicle and Options 36,427.00
Nissan Vehicle Purchase Plan Discount (3.58%) (1,304.09)
Subtotal (Dealer Net Price) 35,122.91
Dealer Delivery Fee (2.5%) 878.07
Selling Price after NVPP 36,000.99
Destination Charge 545.00
Final Cost to Customer 36,545.99
MSRP:$40,665 -- a difference of $4,119.01.
I saw Brick for the first time yesterday and I have some concerns - I only peered through a window, however. The "grain" looked contrived. Is it as "fake" looking as it appeared through the window? If a car is cheap, that's ok, but this is supposed to be a luxury vehicle. I'm not sure it looks natural enough. Also, while I like the brick leather, I could do without the orange plastic and carpets.
And the final question...do you think it will affect resale further? If I get this vehicle and figure out that I'm not a big fan, I don't want to take a further bath because I chose an unpopular color.
Anyone have additional thoughts on this?
1) Style - I like it. My girlfriend did not. Her comment was harsh in saying it looked like a PT Cruiser on steroids. My concern is will I love the style in 12 months or will I get tried of it. Its certainly different.
2) Interior - The seats had a good snug feel, but thought that the dials, gauges and switches felt cheap. Infiniti needs to look at MB, Audi and BMW for the tacit feel that controls need to give. I would prefer wood trim over the aluminum, but that's just personal preference.
3) Ride - Its was rough. While I understand I'm driving a sports car in SUV clothing, many models in this range offer adjustable suspensions. Infiniti should also because simply driving around town in stop and go is tiring. Don't get me wrong when I hit the in ramp and punched it the car didn't sway at all. It was a great feeling, but the Lexus RX330 will have adjustable suspension and for this price Infiniti should also - at least on the FX45.
4) I looked at the FX45 and I think Infiniti needs to do something to distinguish the 45 from the 35 w/ sport. I'm not sure that the $5K - $7K difference is worth it for just ~40hp.
5) What is with the manual adjustments for the Xenon lights? Everything else in this price range has auto-leveling.
Net:Net - I'm still interested, but want to want until the RX330 comes out.
Nice resonant sound from the exhaust, good tactile feedback from front wheels, steering nicely weighted, maybe a tad heavy...need more time behind wheel (like a year or two...I hope). Had enough room for our needs, drop the seats if I need more.
Front seats very comfortable, pretty supportive, nice adjustments, and I happen to like the top mounted controls second to only the MB door mounted ones. Back seats fairly comfortable, but much better than current SUVs(RX, ML X5 etc). One note: Using the driver's auto seat entry feature (moves the seat back) reduced the rear seat leg room drastically for anyone sitting back there. So, let your rear driver passenger out FIRST before pulling the key - otherwise crushed knees :-( (Asked salesman why there was no rear legroom, he didn't have a clue that the seat had moved back, gave every excuse - just didn't know- smuck)
FX-35 V6 seemed responsive and had what seemed like a fair amount of power (again compared to similarly equipped ML and RX, mabye NOT X5). Didn't want to drive the FX45, out of my price range and drooling looks pretty silly on a 50+ year old guys with a beard! Limited body roll, very firm (maybe a little too much, time will tell). Low step in, great for my 5'1" wife who we stranded in an H2 at the last auto show).
I'm a gadget freak, so there seemed like lots of stuff to keep me busy pushing twisting etc, radio/stereo sounded very nice, Bose always a trusted name in audio, and the front mounted 6 disk unit much more convenient than trunk mounted versions. Sat radio option not ready yet, April they tell me, and I'm assuming it is just a plug in when available. There is a SAT button on radio already (display says NO SAT when pushed).
This is NOT your soccer mom's SUV, and that is one of the most appealing things I like. We are empty nesters, grown kid, but need more than a sedan for weekend errands, Home Depot runs, etc. Other car MB convertible, so we need a 4 place car/SUV for Saturday night dinner with another couple, and this fits the bill to a "T". I was not happy with the image of an RX, or a MB-ML and the X5 was out of my price range. I think this is exactly what I wanted. Still want to see VW Toureg, but have already eliminated the Volvo - underpowered, soccer mom image. Thought I might have to buy two vehicles, sports sedan and SUV, but the FX appears to have satisfied both needs.
Also, not impressed with residual numbers posted here. Might have to lease just to be sure I don't get hurt (I hate leases). X5 (3.0) back a few months had a 62% residual on a 36 month lease, very impressive (MB ML was the same). FX residual makes me very nervous!
So to set the record straight, the Murano is built on the Altima chassis, the FX on the FM (350Z, G35 etc) chassis. Sorry, BIG difference.
I'm going to find another dealer to take a test drive, need more time behind the wheel with different types of roads, speed etc. Also need to get wife's blessing (I'm not stupid, just cautious)and her input on color. I like the silver with black.
I think sweet spot: FX-35, Sport Pkg, probably a 35K vehicle? What have other paid (if you don't mind saying).
Getting used to engine noise, but the ride is harsh, even compared to other high performance vehicle I own. We (it's my wife’s car) never really wanted the sport suspension, but it came with the sport package. I'm going to check the tire pressure and then see if there are any option to soften when I bring it in for 3750mi. It's the only sour note in an otherwise great vehicle.
One other embarrassing but curious note. Started the FX up one mourning in New Hampshire(-6F) to warm up, got out to scrape windows and found myself locked out with motor running. Luckily my wife had the wallet key. Couldn't duplicate it. If you try to lock the doors manual with the door open it won't lock. Hmm.
Still waiting for accessories to show up from the factory (winre floor mats, tow hitch).
bomcq (aka bomcq)
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However, since I really want the intelligent cruise and need the DVD navigation system, I'm stuck with the 20" wheels and the sport suspension included in the technology package.
I'm getting closer to ordering a FX35 or maybe even the FX45 and am hoping to get the dealer to swap the 20" wheels for the 18" wheels from another FX on the lot.
· 8-spoke, 20-inch aluminum-alloy wheels with 265/50R20 V-rated all-season tires
· Sport-tuned suspension
· Drilled aluminum pedals with rubber grips
From this, I would say that the FX has different suspensions.
she loved it. we had an obsidian black FX35 RWD with graphite leather. premium pacakge. she said it drove better than her previous BMW's. after telling her how harsh the sport suspension was, she wanted to try it out. a titanium silver/willow FX35 AWD w/ sport, and she didn't find it worth while. the sport pedals to different, the wheels to big (compared to her 16 inchers on the ML), and the suspension way to hard (worse than the airmatic suspension on MAX setting).
anyways, the salesman there told us that it was worthwhile to pay the small difference and get the AWD version. I was ready to make a deposit on a FX35 AWD Premium package w/ roof rails, except for one problem; i don't know what color to get. I like brilliant silver/willow combination, and my wife likes black/graphite color. she doesn't mind having silver outside, and I don't mind black outside. we are absolutely stuck on the outside color.
as for inside, if we get silver, should we opt for graphite, or willow? I am only worried that if it is willow, my children's feet will dirty the light-colored carpets.
oh, and one more thing. if you see the black dashboard, while the seats are willow, is that the willow/graphite combination?
my wife's lease on her '99 ML is up in less than 90 days, and I am stuck on color combinations. help...
on the FX35, can you get 18" chrome wheels? i have been thinking that if i am going to get black outside, I may as well get chrome to add more to the looks. i don't know how much more it will cost.
amd by the way, the dealership quoted me $650 a month for AWD, ($623 RWD) on a 36-month lease, annual mileage under 12,000.
FX-45 (AWD)
FX-35 (AWD)
FX-35 (RWD)
Hope this helps
Obi
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And let's get back to the subject of the Infiniti FX45 / FX35. Thanks!
Revka
Hatchbacks & Wagons Host
Silver exterior, black interior, premium package, roof rack/rails, and splash guards.
Looks sharp! A real eye catcher.
Great vehicle but a minor disappointment -
the rear middle seat and back had a lot of indentations in the leather ... as if there was packaging between the seats. Dealer says it will take some time for the leather to soften up to get rid of the indentations. Did anyone else have this problem?
The FX is great - love driving it. I'm getting used to the small view in the back when looking in the rear view mirror. The audio controls on the steering wheels are an excellent addition since it allows you to control the volume and well as switch from CD to radio.
If you're not satisfied with the leather seats, you should ask your dealer to either repair or switch them out. At the very least, make sure they document the problem now, and commit to fixing it if doesn't smooth out within a given period of time. My 2 cents.
Good luck, and please keep us posted on your FX35 experience. ;-)
Revka
Hatchbacks & Wagons Host
It wasn't a car seat because there are so many irregular identations in different directions. Appears as though it was some packing material stuffed into the seat ... just my guess.
I've been thinking about getting one, so I called my insurance company to find out how my current rate would change. They didn't have the FX45 model in their system, so they were only able to quote me based on the MSRP. The result was about $400/year more than I am paying now. And I am in Los Angeles, which is not an inexpensive place to insure a car, and am driving a 1999 GS300, which is not an inexpensive care to insure!
Does this sound reasonable?
Any info appreciated!
http://www.caranddriver.com/xp/Caranddriver/roadtests/2003/februa- ry/0302_roadtest_fx45.xml
Peformance specs:
0-60: 6.3 sec
1/4-mile: 15.0 sec @ 93 mph
Skidpad: 0.87g
I voted with my moving feet and closed wallet.
later, ldf looking elsewhere
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