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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,872
    I was under the impression that the xA is done. Am I wrong?

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  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,700
    to the public from Scion. I would give it a month or two more. I know, I would love to know, too.

    Tall Ractis wagon-type rig to replace the Scion xA for 2007? Dunno!

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • micwebmicweb Posts: 1,617
    Rumor has it that sales picked up on the xA when gas got more expensive so Toyota is in less of a hurry to replace it. After test driving the new Yaris I am disappointed in it. The extra features and quality of the xA make up for the newer platform of the Yaris (the Yaris liftback has a longer wheelbase).

    Last year at this time I was expecting a completely revamped xA around now. Now I suspect the replacement will be delayed until spring.
  • bcranfordbcranford Posts: 2
    I was also wondering if there was any significant gas mileage difference on an XA with a spoiler vs. one without? I have heard spoilers can effect gas mileage though I'm not sure I believe it.
  • johnniconjohnnicon Posts: 10
    Spoilers do a great job of keeping the car stable at speeds over 120 mph. And, considering the size of the XA spoiler I doubt it would do any good then, let along change the gas mileage. Maybe you could find a SCION pal and perform a controlled experiment.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,872
    Question is, how does anyone get a Scion xA to go 120 mph? :P

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  • I bought the xA brand new, in July 2004. I was driving home from a friends house around 1:30am in the morning, and a drunk driver going 130mph + on a motorcycle slammed square into the back of this car. My little xA spun furiously, into almost 2 full spins, jumped 2 curbs, and slammed rear side into a guard rail. .... The back of the car was pretty smashed up, it was totalled, actually.. the back seat bowed inward in a slight "A" shape, the rear bumper crumpled downward towards the tires, the glass was shattered from the hatchback and side rear windows.....but the car never flipped or rolled. If that is not a testament to the safety design of this vehicle, well, i do not know what is... the design of this car could have very well saved my life. No matter what anyone says, I will always sing the praises of the xA. I wish now that I had decided to purchase another one..but because of the emotional experience of the whole event and what i saw... (you can pretty much figure out the fate of the other driver) .. i decided to upgrade to something bigger, namely the matrix. toyota is still A++ in my mind. thank you.
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,700
    about the Scion xA. Apparently Scion will stop making the xA for 2007 and come out with a brand new design for 2008 that will be out in the spring of 2007.

    The current brand of Scion xA for 2006 will continue to be sold, probably until all 2006 Scion xA's are done being produced. I would think that anytime leading up to the spring of '07 would be an excellent time to get one of the last 2006 Scion xA's, though, remember, haggling is not an option when buying a Scion.

    You could try, but really these cars are cheap enough. A 5-speed 2006 Scion xA loaded to the gills with features only costs $13,320. The 2006 Scion xA is on my short list, gentlemen. :D

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,700
    on my short list, though I can't seem to decide if I want Polar White or Classic Metallic Silver paint.

    My wife is holding strong onto the 2001 Kia Sportage 4x4 and she isn't budging, sadly. :cry:

    Cry, cry, cry. Oh, well. I guess I'll just have to keep rocking to some fine Guess Who, Foghat and Tragically Hip in the Sportage 4x4's great stock stereo system. We're just over 118,000 miles now and counting more on daily. I found a good shop in nearby Benson, AZ, to do my maintenance on the xA...I...I mean the Sportage 4x4. Over. And out.

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • barsonbarson Posts: 34
    Now that I've driven home from where I bought my xA (600 miles away), I was wondering if anyone had advice on the following:

    - bra for the front end. A rock that bounced out of a dumptruck gouged the bumper of my car on the way home.

    - a pad or support for the driver's seat that I could hang from under the head-restraint and drape down the front seat. My shoulder blades hit the extra padding on the sides of the seat, which rotates my shoulders forward and in, and that bothers my back. All I need is an inch or two of pad to push my back away from the seat. I don't need anything under my butt or thighs. (In my old car I used to fold a towel and jam it under the head restraint, but it would always slip and/or get scrunched up.)

    The car did fine on the drive. I varied my speed between 60-80 mph and checked the oil every two hundred miles or so (no leaks).
  • aathertonaatherton Posts: 617
    "... Get the strut bar."

    Hmmm. I put $5,000 in mods on my xB, doing them myself except for sunroof, leather seats and cruise control which were about half of that. The strut bar was the only mod that I regretted and sold.
    I felt no difference from the strut bar right after I put it on. And I felt no difference right after I removed it 5,000 miles later. And it interferred with so much under the hood that I sold it on eBay last week.
    Aside from feeling no difference at the two times when a difference should be most apparent, the strut bar also interfered with accessing the brake fluid and clutch fluid reservoirs, air filter changing, and cruise control installation.

    "... Also get yours without the crappy Good Year Eagle Tires. This can be avoided if you get aftermarket wheels and tires..."

    Aftermarket wheels and tires will cost a couple thousand $. The average person like me might be satisfied with the Goodyear Eagles LS tires. They are premium general-purpose all-season touring tires with some anti-hydroplaning feature:
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    On the outside, Eagle LS tires feature a symmetric, independent tread block design that allows al tire rotation patterns to encourage even wear and maximum tread life. Wide circumferential channels help evacuate water from beneath the contact patch to enhance wet traction and reduce the possibility of hydroplaning. The tread design features different sized independent blocks (with the largest on the tire's shoulders) to improve handling, and the tread block sizes are computer optimized to minimize tread noise for a quiet ride. On the inside twin steel belts are further supported by nylon reinforcement (depending on size and speed requirements) to provide high speed durability.
    http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Eagle+LS&veh- icleSearch=true&partnum=86TR5ELS&fromCompare1=yes&place=1
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  • aathertonaatherton Posts: 617
    "... Now that I've driven home from where I bought my xA (600 miles away)... The car did fine ... I varied my speed between 60-80 mph..."

    The first 600 miles were on the Interstate between 60 and 80 mph. That is not an ideal breaking-in procedure that future buyers should follow.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,872
    To feel the strut bar you have to really charge the turns and come in hard...it's not something most xB owners would do....you can get away with it more on the xA. The strut bar only works when the front struts are really stressed and get out of whack....most driving conditions don't stress the struts like that....

    Also, not all strut bars are created equal. Some are thinner, stronger, lighter...others are complete junk....it pays to shop around and ask around----but really, it's not a very necessary thing for most people, I agree.

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  • Apparently Scion will stop making the xA for 2007 and come out with a brand new design for 2008 that will be out in the spring of 2007.

    The current rumor mill is that the Scion xA will be replaced by essentially a US-legal version of the Toyota Ractis "tall wagon" but with US-legal bumpers and safety equipment and the 1.8-liter VVT-i engine rated at around 128-129 bhp (SAE 08/04 net) used on the upcoming Yaris TS hatchback that will be sold in Europe. Because the new xA is designed for a more "upscale" buyer than the Yaris, hopefully Toyota might even use the CVT automatic from the JDM Toyota Vitz on the xA successor. :shades:
  • raychuang00! If that's the case I may just hold out for one of the 2008 Scion xA's. Our 2001 Kia Sportage 4x4 is at 118,935 miles and running like a bonafide champ. I will definitely look at new world order Kia's before I ever buy a Scion when that time comes. Kia is just too good to look over, my car freaky friends.

    raychuang00-you were the one on Edmunds that called this one a long time ago, IIRC. That Scion would use the tall 'Ractis' wagon for the new world order 2008 Scion xA.

    raychuang00-people have been saying that there will be no 2007 Scion xA. I don't think that Scion will just skip selling the Scion xA for 2007. I think they're going to sell essentially the 2006 Scion xA(which is a really nice little subcompact as it stands in 2006)as their 2007 Scion xA. In fact, I've already read a car magazine that lists the 2007 Scion xA as essentially unchanged for 2007. So there we go.

    I could still grab me a 2007 Scion xA in 5-speed form, in either Classic Metallic Silver, Polar White or Salsa Red, with the only accessory ordered being an armrest. I'd then take my new xA over to Pep Boys and buy some Proline alloy wheels for around $300 and have myself my own version of the 2006 Scion xA RS 3.0! :P

    So there it is boys, all the latest on the Scion xA for 2007. You got it here first. It's accurate and it's all helpful and genuine. :D

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • raychuang00-you were the one on Edmunds that called this one a long time ago, IIRC. That Scion would use the tall 'Ractis' wagon for the new world order 2008 Scion xA.

    When I saw the first pictures of the Ractis the whole vehicle screamed Scion xA successor. Based on the same platform that spawned the current Yaris subcompact, if you look at the interior arrangements--ESPECIALLY the way you can configure the back seat--the vehicle has almost the same interior flexibility as the Honda Fit (the only thing it lacks is the Tall mode that folds up the rear seat bottoms, but Toyota could fix that for the US-market Scion model).

    Toyota has a potentially huge winner here with the Scion xA successor. Now, if we can just talk Toyota into building them at NUMMI in Fremont, CA....
  • what's cool is that I like the flexibility of either vehicle and I know the present 2006 and 2007 Scion xA gets great gas mileage. I like it's looks, it's steering wheel-mounted audio controls, I even like the center mounted gauges! :P

    I'm sure the tall Ractis wagon Scion xA for 2008 will get great gas mileage as well.

    My wife and I took our '01 Kia Sportage 4x4 out for a bath today and then a long drive to Silver City, New Mexico. It was about a 160 mile drive there from our home in SE Arizona. I looked the whole drive for a Scion xA. I didn't see a single Scion xA!

    I did, however, see a beautiful Scion tC in that beautiful metallic Silver. What a great looking car that is! Any more for me it's either Scion or Kia's!

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • Well, the word is out. Hold on to your XAs and XBs. The Car Connection reports that our babies will go the way of Oldsmobiles and Plymouths this year with new models coming in the Spring of 2007. Will these be Scions, or another brand name? Perhaps a good thing never lasts. However, just imagine the value in the year 2050 as these rare vehicles become collector's items.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,872
    Road & Track has listed a 2007 xA in its October issue, but I dunno....

    Resale looks strong on these cars so far. I had a DEALER offer me $10.5K for my 2006 and you knwo they are going to flip it for at least $2,000 profit. That's about my MSRP, $12.5K. But I'm not selling until I see an xA-like car with maybe 135 HP.

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  • By the way, it is definite that the second-generation xA is based on the Ractis "tall wagon" sold in Japan. If you've seen the spy picture of that "tall wagon" in The Car Connection web page, from B-pillar forward it looks almost EXACTLY like the Ractis.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,872
    it is very xA-like isn't it? I think the xA is better looking, especially in the back. Also the Japanese name for it was cuter--forget what that was...

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  • are you asking what they call the xA in Japan?

    They call the xA the ist in Japan.

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,872
    No, the other car...didn't it also have a catchy name in the home market?

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  • question, shifty. I don't know what the other car is named in Japan. Anyone else know?

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,872
    Is it the Verso?

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  • don't know.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,872
    OH, wait, I was thinking of the japanese name for the Yaris, which is the VITZ....I really like that name for the USA....

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  • and Vitz is a good name for that car. A decent new offering from Toyota, really.

    I am currently smitten by the new 2007 Suzuki SX4. You can put this car in FWD(2WD) and with i-AWD you can select AWD-Auto(rainy weather mode)or AWD-Lock(ice, mud). When you're in AWD-Lock and you accelerate up to 36 mph your i-AWD automatically switches you into AWD-Auto. Saves wear on the system and you don't need it, either, if you're accelerating up to 36 mph+, eh?

    Next step is the good 'ole test drive!

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,872
    The "buzz" is that that car is a bit of a gas hog...

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  • for sure about the 2007 Suzuki SX4. I am scheduling a test drive for next Friday AM. We'll see about the gas mileage issue. The car has a running mpg-a-meter. Which is quite cool in and of itself.

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

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