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Aluminum doesn't rust.
You use air conditioning with your TOP DOWN??? What are you thinking? THAT is what is contributing to making the air hotter for everyone. (the use of AC eats up the ozone, and causes other bad things to happen in the atmosphere).
I swear, it is all the people using AC who are making the summers hotter and hotter.
please explain how the use of Air Conditioning eats up the ozone... I will agree that improperly serviced or leaking AC systems will release bad stuff into the air, but running a properly maintained A/C DOES NOT hurt the environment aside from maybe getting half an MPG less that I would without it on... Since we're all driving Jeeps, we probably won't be getting our Sierra Club cards renewed anyway given the terrible MPG they get. If we were concerned with MPG we wouldn't own a Jeep.
If I missed something, please let me know.
-twylie
It was something I figured all along. If they need recharging, it has to be going somewhere, right? I see absolutely no way that you can say running an air conditioner (home or car) is not hurting the environment in some way.
Let's just leave it at that and move on.
Thanks for any info.
David
Thanks for avoiding any personal attacks.
Apparently, SOMEONE must be "that ignorant"! ;-)
Hey, there is no such thing as a stupid question, only stupid people.
Have a great day Walt
I am still a happy camper.
Actually, "eating up the ozone" near ground level would be a good thing! It's the ozone in the upper atmosphere that we want to preserve.
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As well as refrigerant, the system also contains oil, which lubricates both the compressor and it's shaft seals. If unused, the shaft seals can harden and it is here that most leaks occur.
A/c is air CONDITIONING, not air cooling, and is designed to be used year round (that's why you can mix heat with it). If you decide not to use it, then at least run it for ten minutes once a month to help keep it in good working order.
FACT: R12 Freon is the refrigerant which is believed to harm the upper ozone layer.
FACT: Virually every car/truck/SUV manufactured since 1993 uses R134, a refrigerant which does not impact the upper ozone layer.
FACT: The sealed A/C systems of modern vehicles rarely leak. For example, no vehicle I've owned in the past 12 years has required ANY A/C service, including my 10 year old, 138K mile Pathfinder and my 18 year old 175K mile T-Bird. Turbo.
So, lets review;
1. Merely operating a sealed A/C system does not harm the enviroment.
2. If a modern system should leak, the refrigerant released will not harm the enviroment.
3. So, use your A/C system free of any nagging doubt that you might be killing a spotted owl or maiming a snail darter.
Now, let's kill off this tree hugging thread and get back to Wranglers...
Now, let's kill off this tree hugging thread and get back to Wranglers..."
I don't really give a bleep about owls or snails. I am more worried about myself, sorry.
With regards to tree hugging, isn't that why we bought our Wranglers in the first place? Also, the AC part of it IS relevant to the discussion.
P.S. Also hug your Wrangler today.
P.S.S. It's really hot out, so turn off your AC, and park in the shade.
;-P
As to damage it may cause to the environment, let's pick this up in the "Social Issues" forum.
Now - back to Wrangler! :-)
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Lets burn that Gasoline too!!
The American way!!
im kidding guys!!
Jeeps or bust!
BAMA
I have a 2001 Wrangler Sports with full metal doors. I would like to try cruising around with the doors removed. Can someone tell me how heavy these doors are?
Thanks.
Ray
I am almost certain that the light is indicating a problem with the fuel EVAP system, since that was the case last time I had the check engine light, which was a few days after installing the Kilby gas tank skid. (I took Thelma to a dealer, and they read the code for me that time.)
I apparently pulled one of the vent hoses loose or allowed one to get pinched or something like that when I transferred the tank from the factory skid to the Kilby and re-mounted it.
So, today I have the pleasant task of dropping the tank again and looking for something wrong with the vent system for the gas tank. I really wouldn't mind the work, but it's gonna be about 95° today with high humidity (typical western Ky summer day).
I am on vacation the rest of the week and have nothing much to do, so this will keep me occupied for a while. Plus, I have that no drill header to install. Guess I will go get some longer bolts for that.
I wasn't supposed to be back until late this afternoon, but I was able to get my business done and get home last night.
Lots of posts while I was gone. Great!
Tom
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
New guys... join us at http://itsajeep.org for some Jeep chatting. Just click on the chat button on the home page. Gill's (itsajeep.org) is where a bunch of us that post here in Wrangler go to chat. It's noncommercial, so no aggravating banners and stuff, and no fees for membership. They say nothing is free, but they must not know about Gill's. He's just a good Jeep buddy that provides a nice web site for other Jeepers to use.
Tom
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
I just bought a used 99 Sport with 28K miles for $15,900 with manual transmission in Indianapolis. Options include sound bar (I think that's what it's called), AC, cruise, and factory CD player. The Jeep is about as clean as you can get. I think the deal is reasonable. I bought it from a dealer on a Sat evening at the end of the month so they definitely wanted to move cars. The price includes a 3 mo/4K mile warranty.
Anyway, hope that helps some of you in your shopping.
PS- haven't had the top up once.
There sure ain't nothin' wrong with that deal you got. Man, you have a NEW Jeep there! Only 28K miles! Where are the pics of that puppy?
Was that your fist post in here? Are you new? If so, WELCOME! Post often. Join us in Gill's.
Tom
P.S. Scott, if you live in or near Indianapolis, you are not too far from Badlands offroad park. Are you gonna wheel that Jeep? Maybe we could hook up sometime for some wheelin'? I am about five hours away from you down in western Ky, but maybe we could meet at Badlands, or you would be welcome to drop down here and go to Turkey Bay at Ky Lake with me sometime.
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
Driving with them off is a completely different experience, and I'm sure you'll love it.
Thanks for all the great post, this is a great place to come for information.
http://209.120.128.83/productimages2002.asp? prod=157&part=WIL34900&id=178&level=1&vend=&oldmode= catalog2002.asp
I bought a Tomken bumper for its built in towing receiver, but now want a rack for jack and also the other rack would be nice, plus the heavy duty spare tire carrier would be nice for the 31X10.5R15 tire which "looks" heavy on the tailgate.
On the link above, remove the 2 spaces I put in to help it to post correctly.
I really would like the OME based on everything I've read about it, but this one looks pretty good, and comes with more for less $$$. My only concern is if the springs are any good for towing with. The OME is available with HD ones (for hard top and extra gear, but presumably also for towing).
Who knows what the best mild lift (31 or maybe 32 inch tires max) is and where is the best place to get it?
I know tonkadave is really happy with his OME, and he said that with the HD springs that he got, he actually got 3" of lift rather than the advertised 2.5".
If I KNEW that I would be happy for the long run with no more lift than that, I would definitely spring for an OME. I still cling to the hope that some day I can afford a lift big enough for some 35's, regearing with selectable lockers installed, and all the goodies. That ain't gonna be anyways soon, unfortunately.
Tom
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
http://www.turbocity.com/JeepBumpers.htm
The OME is pretty basic. No steering arm drop. Also missing a few of the other items...
BUT, from what I've read, their shocks and springs can't be beat, and THAT is the main part of the suspension, right?
I'd just hate to spring for that (pun intended) and then bounce for the additional items as well (pun intended again).
BTW, saw a dealer advertise the 7yr. warranty as a cost "option" for $700. I am sure that this is not correct, so you may want to keep your eyes on the bottom line.
My wifes 98 Sahara has started sounding rough, especially under heavy acceleration. Like there is a hole somewhere. We took it in and did a full tune-up (it was due...), and other maintenance stuff, and it didn't seem to change much.
So, I talked to our Jeep Service guy and he said "Sounds like that Exhaust Manifold has a crack or something. Happens all the time to jeeps and it will cost about $1200...)
Yipes!
Couple questions...
1- What the hell is an exhaust manifold, what does it do, and will it hurt the engine if we keep on driving it for awhile?
2- $1200 seems kind of high, and is there another brand of Exhaust manifold that isn't as liable to cracking?
Thanks for your help and advice!
Steve
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also:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF8&q=Jeep+4.0+header&btnG=Google+Search
http://www.cliffordperformance.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=57-2000
I know the 97 Wranglers with the 4.0 engine were notorious for cracked exhaust manifolds, and there was either a TSB or a recall on them. It was a design flaw is what I heard, that didn't allow any flex somehow or other, so instead of flexing, they just broke after a while.
I didn't know the problem carried over into the 98's, but maybe it did.
If DC won't fix it for free, since it is past warranty, then I would go to a private shop and have it fixed rather than pay the exhorbitant rate at a dealer. You could go with an after market header and have someone put it on for you. They make headers that can actually improve your engine's performance, and I'll bet they would be cheaper than the original equipment manifold anyway. Might be time to look at a whole new exhaust system all the way back for better power and a nice mellow sound.
I would check this out, since you have to replace the manifold anyway. I'll bet for the $1200 the dealer quoted you, you could get a whole after market exhaust system that would be better than the original.
Tom
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
I actually drove my Wrangler for almost a year before I bothered to have it replaced. It got louder over time (guess more cracks happened). I got tired of the noise, and figured that it wouldn't pass California state smog test with it the way it was...
I've got a 2000 Wrangler Sport that I'd like to sell. It's a beautiful Solar yellow, only 14000 miles, and in as new condition. Any ideas on the best web site(s) to advertise it?
Thanks,
Alan
Email me, and maybe I can put you onto a buyer. (see my profile)
Tom
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
I have had NOT ONE regret, either. I was in no position to trade, having just traded eight months earlier for a brand new Pontiac Grand Prix GT, preceded 13 months earlier by a trade for a new 99 Grand Cherokee. I was $8000 upside down on trade in because of too frequent trades, but I didn't let that stop me. Took out a home equity loan to cover some of that trade in deficit.
It has been well worth the sacrifice! I have found a vehicle that I can be satisfied with for a long, long time. No more trading for this old boy.
Tom
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
I ordered a trail rack system but decided against it. I want to use it when I off-road and I didn't want all that extra weight hanging off the back of my Jeep when climbing hills. I want my front wheels to be able to do more work and less chances of going over backwards. Just my thoughts on it. I plan on getting a receiver mount rack for non off-roading and looking at getting a internal rack to help with storage for off-roading.
You don't really need a lift to fit 31s. You could go with a body lift or spring spacer lift and then get a bigger suspension lift later if you want 33s or bigger. I have heard good things about both Rusty's and OME's lift. I would check with someone that has the OME lift but you may not need those extra items for that lift. Or you could look at piecing together a kit for yourself.
lifts: I have 31 inch tires now, and they rub when pulling out of my driveway. I want to be able to use the jeep a little more aggressively off-road, and figure it will only rub more when pushing it. I need the room in there!
I might just give Rusty's a call and see if they have springs with different rates available.
Thanks.
The OME lift is designed to use 31" tires with full articulation. It's generally regarded as a high quality well matched system that's a little more expensive than others on the market.
You won't need to think about a dropped pitman arm until you go to at least 4"+, at which time a Slip Yoke Eliminator, longer rear driveshaft, adjustable upper and lower control arms and a host of smaller bits and pieces will take priority.
HTH
FASTm3 -- send me details on your Jeep if it is a/t.
Yeah, I'm debating about the hardtop. I've had them on sportscars and never, ever used them but then never took the sports cars out in wretched snowy weather. The hard tops just rotted away.
The Jeep will live in Aspen, however, which, while not a severe climate, can get reasonably cold and snowy at times.
I'm just kinda skeptical that the heater with only a soft top will make the Jeep comfortable when you are doing 55 mph in 10-20 degree weather. But if you guys have done it, hey I'll believe you.
div2--- thanks for the tip on the auto trans. So you say that in 2003 the Wrangler will have a 4-speed o/d auto, did I get that right? I don't think the 4-wheel discs are all that important on a vehicle like this, but the better auto trans is long overdue I think. And remember, gas in Aspen is $2.18 for premium!
Wonder why there is so much difference from Jeep to Jeep? Even the same model and year Jeeps must be different.
Tom
Have you hugged your Jeep today?