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Chrysler Pacifica

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  • Hi, I am a long time lurker, now with a question for the board. How many of you are concerned about first model year bugs? I need a car that can occaisonally seat six or seven, with all wheel drive, good safety and good reliability. I would really prefer not to get an SUV (considering Rendezvous, Pilot, MDX, and ML320), but I am concerned about reliability issues like bugs and potential recalls with first year models like the Pacifica or the Ford Crosstrainer which are due to come out early next year. Aside from the first model year issue, I really like everything I've read about the Pacifica. Right now I am leaning toward MDX, especially if prices come down from MSRP.
  • porknbeansporknbeans Posts: 464
    You are looking at some excellent vehicles and bring up a good question. The question of reliability just came up on the Pilot board for first year runs so you also may want to keep an eye there also. The first year run on the Pacifica and Crosstrainer should be ok but not great. They are both using AWD systems, transmissions, engines and (in the case of the Pacifica) a chassis that have been around. There are going to be teething pains with how these existing parts mesh together along with how all of the new parts go together. My point is that I don't believe that this vehicle will be perfect in its first model year.

    The Honda Odyssey had trouble its first year, the MB ML320 had trouble its first couple of years and now both are fine reliable vehicles. Reliability of new vehicles has improved over the years but there are still going to be problems even for the best car companies.

    My opinion is that if you're worried about reliability that strongly stick with the MDX. You won't go wrong. If you decide that the possibly occasional problem is too much try the Pacifica.
  • svevarsvevar Posts: 160
    I think you'll find that the Acura has the best reliability (not that the others will be bad), but I wouldn't expect prices to come down. From what I hear, they can't make enough of them...
  • porknbeansporknbeans Posts: 464
    The brochure that was handed out at the New York Auto Show. It said more info would be coming in the Summer sometime. Nothing new was revealed, but it was nice to see that DC has the old propoganda machine gearing up.
  • claywaterfillclaywaterfill Posts: 534
    Chrysler sent me a little something in the mail last week on the Pacifica and I sent off for more info. This looks great to me and I can't wait until I can give it a hard look in person!
  • stvdmanstvdman Posts: 62
    I will buy it. I love the greenhouse idea. Keep that. Drop to 17" wheels (17" is plenty beefy looking and will keep tire costs down). DONT put any real or faux wood on the sides (YIKES!).

    If the aforementioned diesel was offered I would be down at the dealership now with my down payment. I hope they are able to build it without having to totally change the thing just to bring it to market. This is one to keep an eye on for sure.
  • revkarevka Posts: 1,750
    From Edmunds' Future Vehicles section, here more information (4 pages) on the 2004 Chrysler Pacifica. Hope you enjoy.

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  • tloke1tloke1 Posts: 185
    Revka, on the link you posted Edmunds states at the top of each page the availability date for the Pacifica as "Winter 2004", more than 2 years from now. I thought this was coming out next Spring? A 2005 model would be out by Winter 2004.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    I've heard that it will be avalible in the first half of 2003.
  • porknbeansporknbeans Posts: 464
    The last propoganda flier that I got from Chrysler said that it was coming in the Spring of 2003. That is also what the Chrysler website says.
  • natdmannatdman Posts: 5
    I finally saw a pic that I thought really gave a good idea of what it would be like to sit in the back of the Pacifica. If they keep that design and put in a nice/reliable drivetrain THIS is #1 on my list for the next car.


    http://www.auto.com/photos/gallery/2002/chryslerpacifica/03chryslerpacifica.jpg

  • cb70cb70 Posts: 226
    to be in the production car. It is used to show off the car better inside and out. They did the same thing with the Mercedes GST.
  • porknbeansporknbeans Posts: 464
    I both called and used the interactive customer service for Chrysler to find out more info on the Pacifica. Needless to say there isn't any new information. Also, nobody knew if they would be having early previews, pricing or further specs. Oh well, I'll try again later in the summer.
  • revkarevka Posts: 1,750
    To natdman (post 71)- Thanks for the link. ;-)

    Also, from Edmund.com's Future Vehicles, here a direct link to their Chrysler Pacifica photos. Hope you enjoy!

    Revka
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  • boredbored Posts: 300
    That Idea seems silly to me. Why would someone want it there? Sure it seems cool, but I'm sure that the roof has some kind of structural integrity and support when it comes to crashes.

    Plus, I'm sure that some custom shop will probably charge you an arm, leg, and an ear (??) along with the money you gave them to put it in there.

    Someone will have the guts to put one in there, I just know it.
  • porknbeansporknbeans Posts: 464
    Structurally the sheet metal in the roof doesn't play as much of a roll in the structural integrity of the vehicle as much as the roll cage itself. The extreme of this is a race car where the sheetmetal is there only for aerodynamics and to make some sticker manufacturer happy, it is the roll cage that handles the structure.

    The greenhouse would be silly if it doesn't have a sunshade or tinting available. I doubt the production model will be as large as the one I've seen in pictures.
  • boredbored Posts: 300
    But rumor has it that the Pacifica was held on delay to improve Crash Test Scores, since it was so popular, that they had to put it in to production, and that's why I said that.
  • porknbeansporknbeans Posts: 464
    I hadn't heard that. Where did you get the information from. This vehicle really intrigues me and if you have any more info please share it.
  • natdmannatdman Posts: 5
    I keep looking for more info but I have yet to find much more than whats been out for the last few months.

    As far as the structure of the car and the greenhouse thing goes the A, B, and C pillars with their respective cross braces across the roof provide the structural strength not the roof itself.

    And their is at least one car out there that has almost as much glas in the roof as the Pacifica, the Suburu Outback has an available second row moonroof for a total of two in the roof. I like the idea of a greenhouse with a shade or self tinting glass better than a second moonroof.

    I just think the greenhouse would give the second row passengers a much more open and non claustrophobic feeling back there. I know I would enjoy it. I hope they keep it and make it standard fare.
  • porknbeansporknbeans Posts: 464
    check out the skyroof on the Maybach that MB just came out with. The MB ML also has a skyroof that goes over both the front and rear passenger areas. I think they are also proposing the same type of skyroof on the GST, which is a way upscale Pacifica. All of these are in the same family as the Pacifica, so it's not like they haven't done it.
  • machiavellimachiavelli Posts: 260
    From what I've read, they will scale back the size of the sunroof, or at least make it optional, to help keep the price down.
  • boredbored Posts: 300
    If you didn't know aboout these sites, I get all my info from:


    http://www.car-truck.com and http://www.allpar.com


    I also learned that everything in Chrysler's lineup was based on the K-Car (Up until 1995, talk about a great way to save money, with everything based on one platform), with the exception of the Mitsubishi clones, the LH series, and the 80's Large Cars (New Yorker, Diplomat, etc)


    You must think that I have been living in the twilight zone, but I really didn't know that!

  • machiavellimachiavelli Posts: 260
    Bored - are you too young to remember the 80's?
  • boredbored Posts: 300
    But not all of it. I had already knew this stuff, my father works at Chrysler himself, but I didn't know EVERYTHING was based on the K-Car.

    Hmm, makes you wonder.... whether something in the Pacifica or any other Modern Day Chrysler has at least some small part from there too.

    Since Mr. Lee Iacocca is trying to return (But Mr. Evil in Germany won't answer his phone) I wonder is he going to try to do the 80's and the 90's over again?
  • 300michael300michael Posts: 1,815
    Except for letting Lutz go, MB is making the right calls. I did like the earlier Pacifica front ends (ones based on the 300M) better then the final ones selected, but then when you go with the Minivan for the starting point of the basic design, you have to live with it's limitations.
  • 300michael300michael Posts: 1,815
    Would be the last of the pure Chrysler designs to come out (if they build it). Since it was acually (prototype)built before the take over. It is the poor mans 500sel.
  • 300michael300michael Posts: 1,815
    Do you think the Pacifica will take away from Chrysler's minivan sales?
  • dorritydorrity Posts: 3
    What is the website that someone posted a while back? wieck.com or weick.com. Neither works. Could someone enter it as a hyperlink, i.e. http://blah blah
  • dorritydorrity Posts: 3
    Any inside info on the MPG of this gorgeous vehicle...and if Daimler/Chrysler is reading this thread, I need to pay no more than 30 grand out the door. I'd like the DVD navigation system to be optional, also ;)
  • lennxlennx Posts: 73
    There are some who would have bought minivans that will decide the Pacifica is a better fit. But they will also get people who were looking at Foresters, or Vibes. Then there are the people who want something bigger than a car but not quite an SUV or a van.

    I also would like to see the MPG on this vehicle. Chrysler vans have too low an MPG.
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