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I will post an update on these winter tires on this thread after we've had a couple winter snow and/or ice storms with a report on how both the Bridgestone Blizzaks and General Altimax tires performed.
Will the Honda Fit '08 HFP 16" wheels fit the '09 fit?
I am new to buying rims, and no one seems to know the answer for sure, but before i finalize and buy the HFP's WILL THEY FIT?
WHEEL INFO FOR '09 FIT 16" OEM alloys:
Rim Size: 16 X 6 J (offset 53)
Tire Size: 185/55R16 83H
WHEEL INFO FOR '08 FIT 16" HFP rims:
Rim Size: 16 X 6 1/2 JJ (offset 55)
Tire Size: 205/45R16 83W
as I said i am pretty clueless with regards to offset/ tire size, etc... but i don't want to end up with 4 useless... and expensive hunks of metal...
Thanks...
+(ALSO check out college hills honda (C.P.H.) on youtube... some good info)
(CAR: '09 HONDA FIT BASE)
+TPMS sensors are the same part# from the stock '09 steel wheels AND '09 alloys... they are detachable/ swapable to new set of rims... aftermarket, etc... BUT 1.) the sensors may not fit "very well" in rims that are not made with a MILed out hole... but dosent seem to be a big deal... per C.P.H. video... 2.) there may be calibration issues due to tire/ rim size changes in tire pressure... this can be solved by a $95 TPMS calibration from honda... this is actually in the instalation instructions for the accessory alloys... the sensors from '08 WILL NOT work for '09... (no work around at this time except swaping the sensors or disabling the light... something about a diff. wireless frequency...)
... this may account for the TPMS light turning on even if the sensor is installed...
1.) the tire shop/ installer could have broke the TPMS sensor when changing tires/ rims... see C.P.H. video of changing out a TPMS sensor, he actually slightly breaks sensor with "clamp" even though he is a HONDA tech and seems to be being carefull... i am shure if this happens there is a chance they will just install it and not tell the customer... also the sensor does not really fit too well in a new set of rims, which could be affecting its reading...
2.) the tire pressure may have changed for the new set of tires... (snow or otherwise) causing the sensor to trip... i would be safe and either manually check tire pressure or take to HONDA to calibrate the TPMS... but thats just me, and it is almost $100 bucks a "pop" to calibrate (no pun intended)...
3.) finally from what i have been reading the sensor really only engages after the pressure is dangerously low in order to prevent "catastophic tire faliure"...remember those FORD explorers some years back... but this should not replace manually checking tire pressure and regular service... the sensor wont help protect against MPG loss/ poor handling due to slightly lower pressures...
... i hope any info here was helpfull... but also i make no guarantee it is correct... assume it is wrong and call up HONDA... or go in and ask the service techs for your specific question...
-$174 for a set of installed floor mats... WHAT!!!!!!!?
Thanks, Howard
I run the WRG2's on my 2008 Civic Si, we were going to trade the car in at the dealer as my wife really wants a 2009 Fit but they want cash on top of my car. I told them no way. The Fit with destination is $17,560. My Si was $22,000
Anyway the Nokian tires work awesome on my Si and I'm sure they will be unbeatable on a Fit. My dealer said the tires I have for my Si would work on the Fit but I doubt it, not with the stock rims, anyway.
You can't get Nokian tires at Tire Rack so try a local dealer I have one up here and he's very good. But I would't buy aftermarket rims from him as he's a Tire guy not great for prices on Rims.
Nokian has an 800# so you can call them up and ask them. They are very helpful.
The sensors should not be damaged unless the tire service person has no clue what they are doing. On one Fit Sport I did this at the local Honda dealer and they price-gouged me, $105 for the dismount, remount and tire balancing for 4 wheels.
The next time I went to Wal-Mart auto service, skipped the wheel balancing (bought lower-cost snow tires and they wear out faster than all-season tires anyway, so balancing and rotating is less important), and Wally World charged me a total of $14 ($3.50/wheel X 4).
I've looked into buying steel 15" wheels and putting the snow tires on (no sensors) and driving this way. Yes the TPMS light will be on all the time, but this does not hurt the TPMS system (unless the indicator light on the dash itself burns out from being on each time you drive during the winter). The catch is I can't find any steel wheels for an 08 Fit Sport, not even from tirerack.com, where I've spent thousands of dollars over the years on tires and wheels. So if you find a source for 15" steel wheels for an 08 Fit Sport, please post it here.
Yes, the dealer was trying to get you to spend a whole lot of money you don't need to (new set of alloys w/sensors plus snow tires).
The ideal solution, in my opinion, is to replace the crappy stock tires with really good all-season tires that are also highly rated for winter use. The only tire I can find that meets that criteria is the Michelin Exalto Sport A/S V-rated, but a set of 4 installed is about $600 installed/balanced (about $150 each). I've been to the local Costco discount store several times, but they keep telling me they can't get any of these from Michelin. This is suspicious, because tirerack.com does have this tire (for more money of course).
The light will go out once you properly inflate your tires. The light comes on when one of your tires is a lot lower than the others or when all of your tires have gotten a bit lower than they should have. Mine comes on each year about this time as the weather first gets cold and the tires lose pressure.
You cannot disable the TPMS. Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard (FMVSS) No. 138, requires a tire pressure monitoring system to be installed in all 2008 model year passenger cars, multipurpose passenger vehicles, trucks, and buses. That means all new cars manufactured after Aug. 31, 2007, must have equipment installed capable of alerting drivers when tire pressure is 25% or more below the placard pressure for individual tires.
Dave
The more I drive on these Dunlops the more I don't like them.I found out they are rated as high performance A/S tires. The dealer received a new Fit with the Bridgestone L460 on the car and I had a chance to drive on them. They are quiter ride better and help with the Electric steering. Now I am trying to get the dealer to change out mine for the Bridgestone. These L460 are rated as Grand tourning. and I believe a better tire for the new Fit. I believe Honda is having trouble getting enough tires for the new Fit so they are taking tires from Dunlop and Bridgestone to fill there production orders. No other MFG is making a tire in the 185-55-16 size at this time.
I wonder if any other size will fit on the rims?
I like to Run Nokian tires and they only make a 195-55R-16
I have a 2009 Honda Fit Sport automatic with NAV/VSA and there are about 7,000 miles on it already. I recently brought it in to my local mechanic to get the tires rotated but they noticed what they thought was uneven wear on the outside edges of both rear tires. They advised I bring the car back to the dealer to have them look at it and run an alignment check. The dealer thought there was nothing wrong with how the tires were wearing but ran an alignment check after much arguing from me. The check found that the left rear tire was marginally out of spec and he said it was so minor there was really nothing that could be done about it or needed to be done.
Has anyone else experienced uneven wear on their rear tires? If it is not the alignment, what could it be? I don't drive like a maniac and the tires are properly inflated. Of course, the dealer says it is fine while my mechanic, who I trust, says there was a wear issue.
If the rear alignment is out of spec, even slightly, and is adjustable, I don't know why he wouldn't adjust it to bring it within specs.
My mechanic suggested we just rotate them and see how things go from there. Of course I can't get in to him again for another two weeks so this is really going to throw off the rotation schedule.
If anybody else out there has been in this situation, please post and advise how you handled it. Plan B is cutting a little round piece of black plastic electrical tape and sticking it to the instrument cluster cover over the TPMS light. Yes, I know, this is not what the system/car was designed for, but millions have cars have gone down the road before without a TPMS systems and I check the tire pressures once a month on all 5 of my Hondas (including 3 2008 Fit Sports), so I'm not concerned about monitoring my tire pressure.
I suggest changing the OEM's out with either 195 60 16 or 195 50 16. The 60 series tire will offer a softer ride with good handling and traction while the 50 series, though V and Z rated, offers a similar ride as the OEM's but more affordable tires and brand choices.
Are these Dunlops supplied by Honda not warrantied? That is a major fault since there aren't a lot of althernative choices out there in the new strange size.
I do not buy the story I have been given about "pot holes" causing the damage. I have been driving since 1973 and I have never, ever had this sort of problem before.
I am new to the forums and a avid honda guy, i own 2 hondas a '02 Civc SI and a '09 Fit Sport. Well brought the Fit Sport home about 2 months ago and whilst sitting in front of my house overnight, all 4 RIMS and TIRES were taken. The car was left on MILK CRATES!!!!! :mad:
So over $4K in damages the car is back and good as new. I now have 4 WHEEL LOCKS on each tire so it will slow them down just a bit should it happen again.
Just wanted to alert everyone to this problem with the Fit Sport rims. The dealer also said they have seen it with the new Accords as well.
Take care and stay safe.
Are these "All weather" tires or summer tires?
They handle well and are quiet so far. I don't have much milage on them yet.
Thanks, Walt
I did not get any credit from Dunlap and now my daughter who also has a Fit Sport is considering replacing her Alloy wheels with Steel wheels and replacing the 16" with a 15" tire. I was trying to research information whether that is a smart idea or not. When I called the dealer's service technician, he did not recommend it because she was concerned with the road noise. He said the steel wheels and different-sized tires wouldn't make a difference. Any of you have a comment?
I replaced them with Generals (recommended by Tire Rack). They are quieter, get the same MPG (33 MPG) and handle stops and hard cornering very well.
If you bought this vehicle used, you need to check and find out if it ever had major frontal damage. Carfax is one resource for this. Possible frame damage.You mentioned vibration. This car should have no vibration. Get a referral for a competent shop specializing in alignments and front ends and have them help you.It may cost some but you'll continue to have problems until you find the answers to the issues I noted earlier.
One of the characteristics of new tires is often they sound and handle differently than the set you just replaced. So expect that. Did you check the earlier buyers opinions out on TireRack.Com before buying yours? If not do so now, it will provide some insight on the characteristics of your new tires.
The FIT is a noisy car at best because it is a compact and has very little sound deadening materials if any under the the carpeting. Also, it is not undercoated (at least my 07 Sport isn't) so you hear every sound. But my tires lasted 68K miles and the car does not vibrate at all.
Hope this info helps you in assessing the problem.
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Go to www.tirerack.com and compare actual tire dimensions.
street condition and caution when breaking. You may want to try driving the Fit and see for your self how it handles before spending $990. Great B class!
I just took the car in to the dealer for it's second scheduled service interval at 14,200 miles. Tire rotations were done both times, first at 7,000 mi. The tread depth measurements both times show that the front tires wear 2/32 per 7,000 mi. while the back tires are wearing 4/32 over the same distance. Had they not been rotated the REAR tires would be worn to replacement (2/32) at 14K mi. I am a very moderate driver, usually trying to coax good gas milage from the car and average 36-37 with a high of 43.
I took the car back to the dealer who put the car on the alignment rack and found left rear toe-in to be 3.5mm; outside the 0 to 2.5mm spec. The tires are feathered on the outsides. Despite these conditions the handling is fine and the car tracks straight with no vibration or other indication of a problem so this all was surprising.
The rub is that the rear suspension is not adjustable. The dealer offered to pay for an aftermarket shim kit to bring it into spec if I paid $150 for installation. I called American Honda Customer Service who took down my story and assigned a case number. A rep called back and said Honda could not endorse aftermarket fixes and had no recommendation. He said there was no way to prove when this mis-alignment took place. I said the service records and no recollection of road damage strongly indicate it was delivered out of spec. He ask for a week to fully investigate and talk to the dealer before a final determination... the tone was generally "forget any help here"... and that's were it lies now.
I really hate the thought of replacing an otherwise fine little vehicle (with many non recoverable accessories) or get involved in a legal battle, but after 20 years of loyal and happy Honda ownership I am Pissed. So, anybody else out there with abnormal tire wear on the rear? Stand up and be counted!
I will be watching for replies.... Thanks.
Yes, I have uneven tire wear. My husband and I have a 2008 fit with nearly 30k on it. I'm nearly certain we've had the tires rotated at each oil change, unless the place didn't actually do it....
I had MAJOR issues this winter in the snow, but thought it was really just how the car handled (we moved to a much snowier region and this was the first time I had had it in "real" snow).
Silly me didn't really think too much about needing new tiers. I thought I probably could use some "snow tires", but these are not in the budget. Nobody had mentioned uneven wear or LOTS of wear when we had taken it in for tire rotations/oil changes, and my husband and I not being "car people" didn't take a close look.
Well, if you stand to the side of the car and look, it looks like there is still some tread. But when you really look over the "center" of the tires, some of the tires are nearly bald except for the 2 big grooves that run around the entire tire! They are not all the same.
I have also noticed recently that my car is pulling right, so I definitely do have an issue, but it hasn't always been that way and these tires had to have been bad for quite a while.
My dad (not a car person, but definitely more so than me!) was perplexed about the very uneven wear.
So...what to do? I am planning on taking it into a dealer for the 30k check up and was on here researching tires, sinc I obviously need new ones. Glad to see I'm not the only one with the issue....
First, you need to get an alignment. It's obvious from your description that the alignment has been off the entire life of the vehicle.
But do NOT go to the dealer for this. Find a shop that specializes in alignments - the 4 wheel kind. If they don't recommend 4 wheel alignment, find another shop. It might be expensive, but it will fix all the problems except for one: the tires themselves.
They be trash! Get new ones. Doesn't matter which you do first, although many tire shops also do alignments.