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Infiniti M35/M45 Smart Key
ddkavanagh
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My wife and I swap driving on trips in our new M35. The smart keys are set up to set the seats for each of us. I'm 6'2" and she's 5'3". When we both are carrying our smart keys sometimes the seats will set up for her when I get in and I can't squeeze in to reset things. She has to get out and get away from the car. Anybodfy else have this problem? The dealer couldn't help. Any suggestions?
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I now glance at the seat and if it's wrong I just push button 1 and yell at my wife for getting in first or putting her pocketbook on the center console. One trick I've learned is to get in the car first. Once you're in, the seat won't reset if it sees another fob. I have also been known to "accidentally" set her memory button to my settings.
I know you can hold down the "1" button on the side if you have programmed it, just checking on the recognition deal by the fob...thanks!
The thing is a great convenience, but it does act a little weird sometimes.
Michael
Pete
EmGee
On p 3-28 in the manual there's a section entitled:
Linking Intelligent Key to a stored memory position
After explaining how to link the key to a specific memory position, the last paragraph in that section says:
[while the ignition is in a locked position] press the UNLOCK button on the Intelligent Key. The driver's seat, steering wheel and outside mirrors will move to the memorized position.
It IS pretty easy to miss things in that manual.
Pete
Gotta have it there to drive the car ... or am I missing your point? Bart :confuse:
I think his point is that you need to take the key out of your pocket and hit a button on it to change seat memory positions. That need defeats some of the benefit of having a key that allows you to start the car WITHOUT being removed from the pocket.
It's a fair point. Not a biggie for me, but if you're constantly switching drivers, I can see how you'd prefer that they do it automatically (by sensing the proximity of the linked key) when you use the button on the door handle to unlock the door.
Pete
Since I'm normally the only driver, I don't worry about it, but it could be a pain...
Your point is also a fair one, and was probably a factor in infiniti's design decision. In my personal opinion, however, there would be little loss of convenience for a couple to agree to always have the person who will be driving (and who's holding his own linked key) be the one who will unlock the door (using the button on the door handle). IMO that's preferable to having to pull your key out of your pocket. (I love the keyless go, since I've got so much stuff in my pockets -- extra phone batteries, lighters, on and on. It's a very big plus that I so rarely have to find my key in there.) I agree, though, that the trade off advantages ARE getting smaller here as this discussion continues.
Depends on how you look at it. IF you have the seat set so that it retracts and the steering wheel rises, then there's room to get in. Hitting the button while the door open isn't that big a deal.
I'm one of the M's absolutely biggest fans. I think they've made more great design decisions than any other car on the road. (IMO The dashboard control layout is tops by far, as is the nav & voice command, as are the radio preset controls, rear view monitor etc, etc)
The memory seat thing I feel does need some improvement, however. You can't activate the preset buttons, (1 and 2, located inside the door) before starting the car. They would definitely benefit from enabling those buttons even with the car in the fully off position. (At least as an option) They'd also benefit from moving those buttons so that they're more accessible, even when you're standing with the door open.
Another issue is that whenever you change a seat position and store it into one of the memory slots (1 or 2), your intelligent key needs to be relinked to that slot. That's a truly unnecessary inconvenience, with no redeeming trade off IMO.
Pete
Bart
You're welcome. I'm in your situation, in that my wife rarely drives my car also. So these issues don't effect my enjoyment at all.
I've been commenting based on the needs of some others, who do have that problem, and from the point of view as to what would work best in the general case.
I truly love my M.
Pete
That was my point, thank you. The driver should always be the one unlocking the doors anyway. However, I will get around the issue by having one of the presets set up for my position and use that if necessary. I never want to have to remove the key from my pocket.
All said and done though, I sure like how the various systems work (but purposely did not buy the top technology package).
1) Ask your Dealer, nicely but insistently
2) Call Infiniti Consumer affairs 800-662-6200
Pete
Bart
Some people want the car to lock the doors when you start the car, I don't like that either, and while for some it is a major deficiency, I think it is the way it should be. If I was going to change something, I'd give it a 6th gear, or a higher top gear to cut the revs down and improve the fuel efficiency on cruise..
p.s., sorry for being a wisea$$!
If you don't find at least one key, you're in for a big surprise...you need at least one paired key to activate any new ones or you not only have to buy the keys, but the computer, too. Sit down while they tell you the price...
Alan
Be sure you each lock the car every time when exiting. In my experience (incuding BMWs, M-Bs), that's the only way to insure the system will work as intended.
When we do this, all parameters work as interndew (steering wheel, mirrors, climate control, etc).
Good luck!.
-Karl
The computer CANNOT be programmed to accept a new key without at least one that already is paired with the computer. That means, you must buy a new computer along with the new keys. It's expensive. Someone said in the order of $1k, but I do not know.
Maybe they've changed that, but from a security viewpoint, it would not be good otherwise, anyone with a key could program it to your car and just drive away. My understanding is they are paired at the factory, and there's no way around it. Good luck, hope my info is no longer true.