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Pontiac Grand Prix GXP 2006

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  • You said it well! When something is just handed to you, why take care of it when you can just get another from mommy or daddy? Earning it and appreciating what you have earned really teaches you the value of the dollar, which lessons go far beyond the automobile.
  • smallegansmallegan Posts: 10
    I am really interested in finding this out too. I just got my GXP a few weeks ago and I have had it up to 120 but then backed down....it felt like there was quite a bit of power left but I was a chicken :blush:
  • Better a little chicken, than smashed road kill twangled with plastic and steel. hmmm might make a good fortune cookie. Chinese anyone??
  • smallegansmallegan Posts: 10
    Hey we aren't all old :-P

    21 years old here and I am on my 5th pontiac! What can I say, I just keep coming back for more!

    Bought a 96 Grand Am SE when I was 16, totaled the car when I was 17 and got a 99 Grand Prix GT. Kept that for a couple of years and then got a 2001 Aztek Sport. Gave the Aztek to my fiance last July and got a 06 G6. Then about a month ago the Aztek started having gasket problems around 80k miles so I gave my fiance the G6 and I took ownership of the greatest of them yet the GXP!!!

    Has anyone added aftermarket audio to their GXP yet? I find the bass to be rather weak compared to the G6, anyone else notice this? I may go check another GXP just to be sure that it isn't something wrong with my car.

    Cheers!
    Ryan
  • smallegansmallegan Posts: 10
    haha yeah! I think I will stick with being a chicken :-)
  • gxpjoeypgxpjoeyp Posts: 38
    If i do try and see what she will do i will do it under a controlled enviroment like at the track...i wouldnt want to jeopardize anyone on our expressways! :)
  • Hmmm, in dog years I'm......

    In human years I'm still young enough to slam a basketball (but old enough to think of my 501k)...
  • rayainswrayainsw Posts: 2,532
    repost:

    Some time ago (oh, back in early 1998, I guess) I ran my 1997 GTP at Maxton-Laurinburg (North Carolina) in an ECTA sanctioned top speed event. If you live anywhere near this venue and are serious about a safe and legal opportunity to test how fast your GXP (or any other car) will go, I highly recommend this as the best possibility East of the Mississippi. (More information / link below.)

    Point here is that with my S/C 3.8 GTP and only a 3.5” pulley, I was right at the speed limiter at the 1 mile mark (from a standing start) where the timing is done. My best speed was 126.761 mph – an E / prod record at the time - coasting through the end of the speed trap, with the motor disabled by the limiter.

    If you have never done anything like this, it is a unique experience. Many of the participants (and their vehicles) are very interesting - and many will be helpful to anyone there for the first time.

    I found it very interesting, at the time, that I had previously run 95+ mph in the quarter, and it took nearly another three ‘quarters’ to hit 126 and the limiter in my ’97. It took a lot longer to build the second 60 mph than it did the first 60! Running on the highway at 80 or so and then punching it, can certainly bring up 100 pretty quickly, but only the most powerful cars keep accelerating at a really brisk pace beyond 120 or so. And IMHO the public roads in the US are not the place to try this . . .

    But I would be very interested in seeing results from anyone with a GXP and with access to such a venue as the unused runway ECTA uses . . .

    - Ray
    Addicted to Torque – and speed!

    FYI:

    http://www.ecta-lsr.com/faq.htm#q09
  • gxpjoeypgxpjoeyp Posts: 38
    Is that 501k something new..... :P
  • smallegansmallegan Posts: 10
    Hehe yeah I think it is about 100k better :-)
  • yeah yeah yeah....it's sort of a mix between a 401k and a 503b. So I make a mistake.... ;)

    I don't drool, however.
  • rmozolrmozol Posts: 124
    There's a sport called "open road racing" too. You can enter your own car, and pick a speed class that you try to AVERAGE the entire race. There are classes from 90 to basically unlimited. With these cars, we would be limited to a maximum speed of 124. If we added a 5/6 point harness, then we could go up to 140! They actually close the highway for these races, and some are 130 miles long. They are mostly in Nevada, with a couple in TX, and one in Nebraska. Check out "openroadracing.com" for more. Pontiac made the Ventura too. It was their version of the Nova. I think it best known speed movie was "The Seven Ups".
  • 1960 was the first year for the pontiac ventura. Pontiac had the bonneville, starchief, ventura, catalina, and canadian Parisienne. All 2 1/2 ton full size cars. All the same body style. First year for the 389, whick took it all the way to the gto's. 3 two's were an option.
  • chats1chats1 Posts: 158
    Let me ask you something. My brother had the original 1964, I believe, maybe 1965, GTO (anyway whichever was the first) -- a convertible in saddle bronze metallic. In your opinion, do the newer GTO's, now in production, even compare to the original? Thanks.
  • I dont think theres any way to compare a new gto with the old. They're just two totally different species. I think gm could have done a better job in the design of the new one. The fronts not so bad, but the back is dog ugly.
  • gxpjoeypgxpjoeyp Posts: 38
    My take on comparing most cars of today is this:There is no comparing something that is virtually all plastic and aluminum with what detroit was makin back in the 60's....close the door on a car today its so soft,when closing a door on a '65 goat is so solid!!! the metal is cheaper as far as the guage goes,but america is the original muscle car makers of yesteryear.Todays gto looks like a chevy cavalier i would rather pay 35k for a nicely restored '65 gto than 35k for what they make today.

    My gallons worth
  • chats1chats1 Posts: 158
    My brother totally told me the same thing as you said. I agree too. Thanks.
  • chats1chats1 Posts: 158
    When the new GTO's first came out, my brother said the same thing. It couldn't compare to his 65. He loved that car and wished he still had it. He has the 1995 Impala SS and refuses to let his wife get rid of it. It can't compare to the new Impala SS's. And, he keeps saying "no" we are not selling it. Thanks.
  • No comparison. Sure they may have all the bells and whistles of a pontiac or higher end car, but the rice burners suck on crash tests. Theres not much value for your buck, if you take yourself out driving one of those.
  • chats1chats1 Posts: 158
    Now, OnStar is free but I always renew it after the first free year so my car is being monitored. If I call them from the car they call me by name and they are always monitoring the car. If you are in an accident, they know. The hissing sound from the speakers stop with the doors open. When I am cleaning the car and I have one door open, I hear the hissing, then it goes out -- door is still open. Then when I go to the other side, door open, hissing sound, then goes out and door is still open.

    My brother is an electrical engineer and insists it's the OnStar doing this. He explained the whole works to me but I really didn't understand it. He explained to me about the microphone in OnStar, etc. Do you really believe that GM would admit it was OnStar? I don't. The problem is that I don't think that OnStar is compatible with the Monsoon Speaker System. I had the Bose in my 2002 GTP and, of course, OnStar, no problem. I don't think keyless entry has anything whatsoever to do with this. Also, if you don't renew OnStar they certainly wouldn't be monitoring your car. If you pay for the plan, then your car is being monitored. thanks for your input. Have a good weekend. Chats1
  • gxpjoeypgxpjoeyp Posts: 38
    Ok i was one to complain about the hissing too but I have given that up cuz life is too damn short to worry about petty stuff like that any longer...this world has much much more problems than that!!!!
  • ocmike3ocmike3 Posts: 232
    Hmmmmm... lots of complaining in this forum, most seem like nits to me...
    - I got 23mpg in my last tank of mixed driving.
    - My service experience with the dealer I've been using since 1999 has been excellent. They are very good and never make excuses. (In fact they submitted a TSB to GMC based on info I provided on my GMC Canyon - their algorithm for the outside thermometer is slow)
    - My 2005 GXP has been good to me; my only nit is the trim piece around the sunroof I didn't want buzzes. That'll get fixed in my next service.
    -The A/C button doesn't bother me a bit\
    - I've only seen one other GXP in my neck of the woods - silver. Mine is Dark Cherry & I LOVE it! :) :D :shades:
  • dav2006dav2006 Posts: 2
    Does anyone know if there will be a 2007 Grand Prix? I am in southern california and pontiac advertises and pushes the G6 and solstice but there is no mention of grand prixs in any adds. Have they given up on it like the Bonnie?
  • rmozolrmozol Posts: 124
    I'd be surprised if they did. I see a bunch of them on the road, and this LS4 is a new engine, being put in a lot of GM cars now. This is only May also. I think they dumped the Bonneville GXP since they were so much more than the GP GXP.
  • 303hp303hp Posts: 3
    Has anyone given any thought to the heat this tranny might be under? I am from the Toronto area and its only in the 20 C or 70F so far outside but the tranny on my car is close to 100C. I have checked all the fluids and the rad has the right amount in it. I think that the car companies make all cars to the engineers closest possible tolrence that they can get away with, operating temps being one of them.
    On page 5-23 it says the operating temp should be
    82 C -93 C
    I have had a 1988 taurus and put a cooler in it and never had a tranny problem but that year of car had many of the there tranys were falling apart. I am thinking its because of the cooler temps the trany was running under all the years.
    Now I have this V8 stuffed in this front drive performance
    car, tranny temp might be something to think about. I'm not saying its going to break down tomorrow but over time if you want to keep the car it might be something to think about.
    Remember cop cars have trany,power steering ,engine oil cooler on them .
  • evandroevandro Posts: 1,108
    I'm afraid you're right to be worried. Even though there already is a tranny fluid cooler, I wonder if it can handle the tremendous torque of the V8. That transmission was known to be short-lived (+/- 60000mls) even in the milder supercharged version.

    The tranny used by Cadillac could handle the V8 torque and some. It was used in the Bonneville GXP, but it shares a platform related to the DTS'. Perhaps it doesn't fit in the GP, or being beefier has a price that GM couldn't afford. I just hope that you don't have to afford it... :(
  • ocmike3ocmike3 Posts: 232
    I read somewhere a few months back that this generation GP was going through the 2008 model year and then it (at the time of the article) was going to be replaced by something developed from one of the new global platforms. But with GM in constant restructure now... who knows. My bet is at least one more division will be deep sixed. I'd think Buick or Pontiac were the most vulnerable (since Saturn has already been identified as moving to an Opel rebadge) Pontiac outsells Buick, but Buick seems to be getting more new vehicles so.... the new Camero, the Saturn Sky... what else is left unique to Pontiac???? not much.

    ps: For those complaining bout this GP and comparing it to Maximas/BMWs/G35's; at MSRP you have a bit of an argument -but for the price I paid on my GXP - Not one of them is even close to the value or raw fun... :)
  • evandroevandro Posts: 1,108
    Actually, Buick and Pontiac are in the same ball-park, but Buick is more profitable. Granted, most of Buick buyers won't be alive to trade their current purchases, but it seems to me that it's written on the wall that Pontiac will be axed. GM displays Buick concept cars and no Pontiac ones; it feeds the buzz on upcoming and current Buick models, but mums on Pontiac ones... :(
  • Ummm, I think there are two cars called the Solstice and the G6 that seem to be in the news a bit.... :blush:

    I don't think Pontiac is going anywhere. The line will get smaller, but it's all part of the Buick/Pontiac/GMC lineup. Buick gets the upmarket mellow, GMC gets the fancy trucks, Pontiac gets the more youthful exciting cars -- all in one showroom. The Grand Prix isn't going anywhere for a couple years at least. Have you looked at sales figures for the car? It is in the top 20 month in and month out.

    Continue to dig the GXP. MPG keeps going up as the engine breaks in, and so does the power! Holy Cripes this thing is fast.
  • ps: just saw a Solstice out cruising tonight through a park. Dang, that thing looks good. I saw more people trying to see what kind of car it was than any other vehicle...and that included a Lotus.
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