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You could just add a portable instead. I have a Garmin Nuvi 265wt and I'm happy with it. 4.3" widescreen, text-to-speech, bluetooth, free lifetime traffic. I paid $190.
Garmin has a new 1490T for $350 at Costco, and you get a big (for a portable) 5" screen. Sweet.
My newest disc GEN 5 V9.1 continues to improve upon the voice commands for both voice dialing and points of interest. The bluetooth compatability is much improved over version 7.1 & 8.1.
i would like to buy a 2011 XLE with the navigation package. I live in SF bay Area. Anyone has bought the same car? What would be a good deal? About $3300 below MSRP would be a good deal?
also, does anyone know if the GPS would work in Canada? How do you update this in the future? how much do you have to pay for potential upgrades? Is the nav pack worth the $2000 or so they ask for?
Thanks so much for your help.
peter
OEM Navi offer a big screen and a backup cam, for a price.
Some have complained that updates are infrequent, so the maps are out of date. And you can get a backup cam without getting Navi now.
I like portables, but there are pros and cons to both.
GPS should work in Canada. At least mine does (2006 Lexus GS300). Map upgrade cost is $199 (again, for 2006 Lexus GS300).
Any idea why the disk modification hack did not work for me? I can now access the overide menu however the search by address is inoperative although not grayed out along with several other things. It appears the problem is tied to location (area?) to search. I used my original gen4 ver. 5.1 U20 disk.
If you don't want the newest data you can buy a used version on ebay. First, the 10 digit PN must be 86271-5302X. The last digit must be a 1 or higher. Second, if you buy another disc with a different suffix (-5302x) it will cause issues!
When you get your new disc just eject the old one and insert the new disc. It will automatically boot up the new software.
Good luck!
I have a 2004 Sienna and the disk drive is under the passenger side front seat and the access door faces toward the back of the unit. It's easier with a flashlight in hand to see everything. There is (on mine, anyway) a switch that you slide to the side to expose the DVD eject button. Push the button and swap the disks and in a few seconds you should be semi- up-to-date (it will still be behind to some degree).
There are also instructions on this forum on how to override the safety protocols to use features of the navigation system that are normally not accessible while driving.
1) Can you put in a destination and a "via" point, so you can control how the nav system will direct you.
2) If you hit a snag on the road, can you have the system "detour" and give you an alternate route.
Love my Garmin. Hope the nav system will have similar functions.
Also, is there a place on line where I can see a detailed manual for the nav system..
Thanks for the help.
Compared to the least capable Garmin, the Sienna _planning_ capabilities are abysmal. The Sienna display is very nice.
a. max __ 5 ___ user controlled via points( e.g. mapsource, Google Maps, etc)
b. no ability to import routes from external planning systems
c. Very outdated and expensive map updates (250.00 for my last update and it was missin gmajor roads in Norther Virginia that were nearly 24 months olds)
d. Inserting via point does not simply extend route(1 of 3 you have chosen) - it forces a recalc and you may lose the preferred route that was acceptable to get 3 routes that are not.
e. no ability to save routes!!!
f. no ability to get on-line map updates
g. In most cases - Touching places of interest on the map display does _not_ provide the name of the feature!!
h. Moving around the display in small increments is very difficult.
i. Icon sizes obscure important display information
I could go on and on.
Just buy another GPS and save $1000s
I live mny Sienna but do not use the GPS system for detailed route planning.
I highly recommend you buy the Sienna without the GPS and use a different one for in car routing and navigation.
I believe you can get the 2011 Sienna without GPS but still get the DVD and dashboard lcd display for other system controls.
I looked at 2011 Sienna
a. make sure you closely examine the 2nd row seat operations if you are buying that option. Try and extend the seats in a way that is useful for adults with the driver's seat in a comfortable position and with cargo in the rear.
b. Move the 2nd row seats full back and experiment using the console cup holders while in mothion.
c. If you want the 2nd sunroof, make sure to operate one and observe its positioning and resulting configuration before you make the leap.
Good Luck.
that being said....dealer here in Cincy is more willing to reduce price of what is in his lot vs. getting van I'm asking for....nothing is easy!
Most likely the GPS antenna has become disconnected. This explains why no GPS logo appears at the top left of the screen, and why the incorrect position appears on the map.
Has anyone removed the navigation unit in the dash? If yes, the GPS antenna has been disconnected. The GPS antenna has a square grey connector that is attached to a black wire leading to the actual GPS antenna. It simple needs to be plugged back into the back of the navigation unit. After reconnecting the GPS antenna leave outside with a clear view of the sky and the key in the accessory mode. The engine does not need to be running. Once the GPS logo reappears you are all set. The positioning will display the current location of the vehicle.
The updates cost $200 plus, while Costco has a 5" Garmin for $179.99. So the portable is actually cheaper, but the screen is 5" instead of 7" or whatever you have now. Lifetime map updates retails for $89.99 now, but you can get that bundled and pay even less.
Hmm, I looked on-line and didn't find the same deal, so you may have to go to the store. They did have a Tom Tom for $169 with free lifetime map updates. Nowadays you can buy them bundled.
Given you're not happy with the OE Navi, I would not pay to upgrade something you don't like.
Thanks again
I looked because I got an e-mail offer...
The 1490T is $230 from Factoryoutletstore.com. If you want to bundle it with lifetime map updates, it's $320.
Garmin does quarterly updates, they're on 2011.10 right now IIRC.
Tom Tom prices are cheaper, but try them out. I prefer Garmin, while others like Tom Tom. Both tend to rate highly in reviews.
Thanks, WC4
Interface is important, so see if you like Tom Tom's or Garmin's better.
detailed directions, very current directions and clear voice and screen
Detailed directions: Garmin > OEM, because it has text-to-speech and most OEMs don't or it's very limited.
Very current directions: Garmin > OEM, because they have quarterly updates, while OEMs often take a year, some times 2 years, between updates.
Clear voice: OEM > Garmin, no doubt, plus they lower the radio volume since it's integrated.
Screen: OEM > Garmin, due to size. However, consider how distant the screen is. A 5" portable up close with a vent mount may be more clear than a 7" screen way up on the dash.
That's how I see it.
I know this is an old post...but did you find a fix for this problem? I have the same problem.
Question for you - was it easier to install in your Subaru, or in the van? Just curious. We have a Sienna and a Forester.