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  • mtngalmtngal Posts: 1,911
    Wow! And I thought I was high with my 115K. Good to hear that I've got a long, long way to go. Do you suppose there is any way to convince our old timers that they really don't need all that much gas? Maybe try to convince them to go a bit further with a little less? I know, wishful thinking...
  • erickplerickpl Posts: 2,735
    I have seen a few on JCWhitney's web site. I'm not considering them right now as I don't want my 17 year old daughter driving w/o doors. :) Half doors are low enough that it really isn't an issue for her yet.

    The adapters I've seen mount to the windshield brackets. If you go to the site, select the Wrangler area, then choose mirrors. You'll have quite a few to look at.

    -Paul
  • 01r101r1 Posts: 280
    Thanks everyone for positive comments!

    BTW, photography for me started as just a hobby, but is slowly progressing from there. I sell an occasional picture or group of pictures. I love taking the pictures, but am not really into marketing side of the business. I'll set up a web page eventually and see what happens.

    In the mean time, I'll be driving around in my Jeep taking pictures building a good stockpile of images. Nothing I'd rather do more!

    -Pete
  • misspishmisspish Posts: 5
    Hi, fellow Jeep enthusiasts. I have enjoyed reading the posts, and have found some excellent advice...thank you. I am hoping to order a 2004 Wrangler in the near future....my local dealers were unable to locate an '03 with the options I desire. One dealer was able to fax me the 2004 prices for my Sport. Looks like MSRP went from $21,045 to $21,320. And, if his print out is correct, the Dana 44 rear axle is no longer included in the 30" tire/wheel group, so carries an additional MSRP of $310. The side steps also went up from MSRP of $75 to $150. The rest of my desired options (CD, 7 speakers, tinted windows, Sentry key, Auto dim mirror, Trac-Lok, a/c) did not have a model yr. price increase. On the upside, they now throw in front mats at no additional cost (they were $30 in '03). My question is regarding the extended warranty. From reading the posts, it may be a good idea....and I am a warranty type girl anyway. How do I shop for the best price?

    Thanks for the sage advice!
    Michele
  • bmg132bmg132 Posts: 28
    Hi all, I ordered my 1st Wrangler on June 6th and have been counting down the days until it arrives. I ordered an '04 Sport. I did all the research back in 2000, but just couldn't quite afford to do it right & had to wait out a 3 year Saturn lease...

    Does anyone have any idea how long it takes for an order to come in, when ordered before/at the very begining of the model year? My dealership (whom based on all accounts is very reputable) has been vauge to say the least. I am approaching the end of the 6-8 week window I was told.

    Also, if anyone has experience w/ordering Mopar items is there a timeframe of when their '04 accessories are available? I was told I am not allowed to get seat covers or slush mats yet.

    Not certain if anyone else pointed it out or not (there were so many messages to try and review), but another addition to the Sport package is that the in-dash CD is now standard.
  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    Basically, you bargain for it in the same way that you bargain for the best price on the vehicle itself. To the dealer, the extended warranty is just an item to be sold, like the side steps or undersealing.

    One effective method is to base your negotiations on an 'out the door' price. "I want to buy a Wrangler with these options and an extended warranty for $XX,XXX, to include tax tag and title, 'out the door'". Of course you have to do your research and be realistic, but it avoids all the add ons like 'documentation fees' and 'advertising fees' that seem to get tagged on after you think you've agreed a price.
  • misspishmisspish Posts: 5
    Okay,thanks, I'll do some research. We have already agreed on the vehicle price as $100 over invoice. My final decision will be made as soon as the '04 incentives are disclosed. I am hoping the $1000 plus $500 for military will be carried over to the new model year. My husband thinks I am having a mid-life crisis! I disagree, and suggested that a Wrangler immunization would be just the thing to ward off such a condition! Oh, and thanks, bmg132- I was not aware that the CD is now standard.
  • bmg132bmg132 Posts: 28
    Neither was I, but that is what the copy of my order says.
  • embeedueceembeeduece Posts: 260
    Sounds like you and I are in the market for similar Sport Jeeps. 30" group, trac-lok, a/c, mirror, sentry key, 7 speakers, etc. My L.A. dealer did a 200 mile search and came up empty. So I'm looking at the 04s as well. Bad news about the heavy duty axle. But free floor mats MORE than make up for it. Also, good news from BMG132 that the in-dash CD is standard.

    Did you get any info about 04 colors? How about the new wheels mentioned previously in this group (Canyon replaced by Ravine)? Thanks.
  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    Maybe.......but I bet he'll be wanting to drive it when it arrives!

    :-)
  • misspishmisspish Posts: 5
    No, I have not seen the Ravine wheels.....I really liked the Canyon, though! And, since I want white, I didn't ask about other '04 colors. Yeah, the mats and CD help a little to offset the Dana's additional cost.
  • misspishmisspish Posts: 5
    Wait till he sees the Jeep tatoo to match my new Wrangler! :-) Just kidding!(sorta)
  • misspishmisspish Posts: 5
    Well, shoot. I think tatoo should be tattoo. I guess I have no business getting one if I can't even spell it correctly! :-p
  • bmg132bmg132 Posts: 28
    Is the switch to the Ravine Wheels a recent development?

    When I placed my order I was advised the Canyons were still in the 30in t&w gp (I specificly asked). I was also told about the Dana being additional, you have to upgrade to 4 wheel disc brakes to get the trac-lok (apparently you could do it w/drums before?) and the CD (I had planned on getting as option) all at the same time.

    How could they not mention the change in wheels???

    I have not seen them yet either. Hopefully they still have that same soft/subtle look the Canyons do, the last thing I want is shinny chrome.

    I did not get too involved w/colors, I was going with the Bright Silver that was new in '03. I was advised that color did not change, and that was enough for me.
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Like I told you guys, it is very difficiult to get complete and accurate info on options from the salesmen at DC dealers.

    I will place a call to my salesman, who is a big time exception to the rule, since he knows his Jeeps. I'll ask him about some of the things that have come up in the last several posts.

    I called a little while ago and found that he was at lunch, so I will try again in about 45 minutes. Stay tuned.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • bmg132bmg132 Posts: 28
    I took the same approach and just got off the phone w/my salesman (South Jersey area by the way), because I was really starting to wig out over these wheels.

    While he "had not heard anything" regarding a change from Canyons, he said he will have an answer tomorrow after 11. He reassured me that the copy of my order states Canyon Wheels (my copy is at home).

    He was able to give me a VIN and advised my Wrangler was expected to ship by 7/25, putting it at my dealership by the end of next week.

    YAAAAAHHHHHOOOOOOOO!
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    My salesman is almost as much in the dark as we are, and it is because DC is so slow in coming out with the info that their dealers need.

    David, my salesman, says that the "AAS" package shows the "Ravine" wheel for the 04's instead of the Canyon wheel. The AAS package gets you the 30" tires, gas shocks, Dana 44 rear end, and the Ravine wheels (15 x 8 inch, same size as the Canyon wheels). When I got my Thelma Jane, I got the AAS package, and it was the same stuff, but with the Canyon wheels.

    David did not have a picture of the Ravine wheels, and he does not have a clue as to what they look like. He said it could even be the same wheel as the Canyons, just given a new name.

    Oh well, I tried.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • tjraytjray Posts: 38
    I highly recommend the doors off mirror brackets on jeepit.com. I got some a few weeks ago and they work great. They are simple and inexpensive and it really is safer to have side mirrors if you drive in traffic. Just a little Jeep tip-Tjray
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Congrats on the Jeep order, and it sounds like you are coming down the home stretch on delivery.

    Hope you get it soon.

    Post some pics of that baby for us, and be sure to get out of that Jeep long enough to post your initial impressions of it.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    I use an Olympus D-550 Zoom, 3.0 Megapixel. It's my first ever digi camera, and I love it! I had been wanting one for a long time, and I finally took the plunge back in November.

    I have a question for ya, about the red eye reduction setting for my flash. How come it doesn't work? :)

    I have been shooting some pics of my new granddaughter, and I have been setting the flash for red eye reduction. I get the pre-flash, but the pics still have red eye. What's up with that?

    I hate to get off topic, but your email addy ain't public, and I don't know how to contact you other than posting here.

    Email me, if you don't mind, and then I will have your email addy. tsjay49@earthlink.net

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • embeedueceembeeduece Posts: 260
    Sounds like those of us in the ordering stage are all looking at similar Jeeps. We should have gotten together and had some lucky salesperson give us a bulk rate.

    -Mike
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    You would think the best place to go for up to date info would be the DC website, but they are stil showing the info for the 03's.

    I have noticed that they stay way behind ever since I first got interested in Jeeps three years ago.

    I realize that there are still 03's being sold, so they need to keep that info available, but why couldn't they also show the 04 info?

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • bmg132bmg132 Posts: 28
    They did post the new incentive rates (went up) for the '04s but no specs and you still can only build '03s online...

    FYI:

    1.9/2.9/3.9 APR for 36/48/60 month loans, good through 9/2.
  • bmg132bmg132 Posts: 28
    That APR info I posted is for purchases, I didn't take note of the rates for leasing.
  • dewarsdewars Posts: 58
    Hi Gang,
     I am going to install my new "Durango4x4" rear bumper and tire carrier this weekend. Does anyone know about how long this takes? Any tips on making the install go easier?
    Thanks,
    dewars
  • bmg132bmg132 Posts: 28
    My salesperson called me back.

    Ravines are in fact on my Wrangler, not Canyons, despite what my original order form stated. Good news is that they apparently look very similar to the Canyon both in material & design. Bad news is that I still have not gotten to see what they look like.

    He is sending me a picture, to check them out. Unfortunately he did not have a .gif or .jpg for me to attach.
  • erickplerickpl Posts: 2,735
    I have found some of the best pics while driving offroad can be some of the hardest to get. :) But that makes it fun. :)

    I have a Nikon Coolpix 5700 (5.24 megapixel, 8x optical, 4x digital zoom, 256 MB memory). It has the rugged frame for handling the offroad hiking and geocaching I do. When the going gets really wet or dusty, I seal it in a ziplock.

    -Paul
  • embeedueceembeeduece Posts: 260
    Not only are the 03s still on the jeep.com site, but many of the images, like the virtual tour, use the '02 Wrangler.

    -Mike
  • Wrangler Gang –

    I forgot to mention the other day when I posted the below information that it was from last weeks Automotive News (to which I started subscribing). Basically, they had a huge set of articles that laid out Chrysler’s entire product plan through the 2008 MY. I have paraphrased the information to keep it short and not get in any troubles with Auto News.

    What I was really glad to see was that they are committed to the Wrangler/Scrambler on its own platform and that we will still have our current Wrangler architecture through the 2007 MY.

    Hopefully, when 2007 comes they will not mess-up the Wrangler. I was worried that they would replace the Wrangler sooner and base it off of the up coming Jeep GC which will be based on the new Benz M class.

    I had been keeping my fingers crossed.

    Wrangler Info:

    The off-road vehicle will be redesigned for the 2007 model. The Wrangler, the only Jeep that is body-on-frame, likely will remain on its own platform.

    Scrambler Info:

    The Scrambler, a pickup derivative of the Jeep Wrangler, will bow in 2004 as a 2005 model. Jeep is aiming at the youth market with the Scrambler, a Wrangler based SUV that seats two and has a four-foot pickup bed.

    Initially developed for military use, the Scrambler concept sits on a stretched Wrangler wheelbase. That allows the addition of a 4-foot pickup bed behind a two-passenger compartment.
    Four- and six-cylinder engines will be available.

    I am still waiting to see the new Scrambler so that I can decide whether to replace our old Wrangler with a new Scrambler or a Rubicon? I just hope that they offer a Scrambler with two seats, a full-length soft top and half doors. Oh, I would also like to see them offer the Rubicon gear on the Scrambler but that is most likely asking for too much.

    Jim
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Over 24 hours and no new posts!

    Had a wonderful day at Turkey Bay today! Great wheelin'!.

    http://itsajeep.org/PhotoPost/showgallery.php?cat=3052&ppuser- =3

    That's a link to today's pics.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
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