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I figured it would take all summer for them to call me back, but they already called back, and are replacing them this week.
The only problem is, we were hoping for the Michelins, but my dealer is only doing Wrangler RTS's at this point. I guess we'll give them a shot.
Anybody have any feedback on these Goodyears?
One or two posters did say the issue got better, but most have not been that lucky.
joelis
I've had the Wranglers on a Bronco and an Explorer, and currently on a Jeep Wrangler and an Expedition. On the Explorer I got 68k on the first set, and still wasn't at the wear indicators. Rode fine, as they currently do on the Expy at 40k. Never any issues of any sort. I was thinking of trying Michelins on the Expedition next only since some have commented that they thought the ride improved. Best ride improvement was Edlebrock IAS shocks on the Explorer and Jeep. I will eventually do it to the Expedition.
Personally, I'll try Bilsteins again when the Expy needs shocks. Their ride isn't as stiff as the Edelbrocks.
I'm also replacing the rubber bushings on the Expys sway bars with polyurethane bushings. I've finished the rear, but really didn't notice a big difference in handling.
There is a local car salesman who purchases wrecked vehicles (salvage titles) and fixes them up. Many people I have talked to have purchased numerous vehicles from him and swear by his work.
The guy is upfront and honest and even has pictures of the vehicles prior to being fixed. I realize I will have trouble on resell but his prices are very good.
He has a 1999 Ford Expedition Eddie Bauer 4WD White with all the bells and whistles that comes with it. He is asking $19,900 and was told he would come off $500 but that its.
What do you think? Should I go for it?
Thanks in advance.
Thanks
If your message was in reply to me (message #358), I still have the ability to obtain a warranty even though the vehicle has 39,000 miles. The dealer from whom I purchased the vehicle offered a warranty despite the fact that the factory warranty expired. I got a price over the internet for the warranty which was substantially lower. Any issues with using internet warranties?
alwaysford, thanks for you opinion. I never thought about the vehicle in a second crash situation.
My biggest concern was resell value and how hard it would be to get rid of. As many times as I trade vehicles it might not be worth it.
Thanks again.
With the glut of off-lease Expys on the market, why consider a salvage? Check Auto Trader or some other on-line service, or start with your local paper. My mother in-law has a salvaged Suburban and, while she got a "good" price, she has to deal with rattles, leaks, and other things way beyond what she would have if had she purchased a used but un-wrecked vehicle.
As for resale, I suspect that you won't have an easy time of it when someone sees that the title is marked "salvaged". Also, are you planning on trying to finance? I'd check with your bank loan officer first to see what they would be willing to loan you for this vehicle. If your paying cash, there are lots of motivated sellers out there.
Lastly, go to the NADA or Kelly Blue book sites and run the vehicle through their appraisal programs. Note what they knock off for salvage vehicles.
SST
jmincher: If I were you, I would run, don't walk, away from this potential junk pile that you could wind up stuck with. This is surely one case where a low price DOES NOT equal a good deal.
He will provide a before and after picture if you want and will show a person how much he put into it.
I did check around on some other used Expedition's and his price isn't that great. Good but not great.
alwaysford, here in Oklahoma the salvage title is actually orange in background color. A non-salvage title is green. I know a person can get a new title with a little work but I wouldn't dream of doing it.
I think the guy does do good quality work but I think you have convinced me to look elsewhere. If I am willing to drop $20K on a vehicle I might as well spend $5K more and get one with a better history.
Thanks for comments and advice.
We bought a salvaged Ranger last year... it was one of the best vehicles we have ever had! However, I don't know if I would have trusted it for a family vehicle.
We also have a 1998 Ford Expedition that we leased. I must say I absolutely love the truck! It is an excellent family vehicle. However, with gasses the price they are, we are trying to break our lease, it is just too expensive to drive anywhere. Anyway, trading it in, you rarely get what you need, especially for a salvaged title. We also have tried selling it outright... bottom line is that no one wants to deal with buying an expensive vehicle from a private party. That is what we found. I also found that here in Minnesota they take I think it is like 25% off blue book value for salvaged vehicles.
As a parent, I guess I would walk away from the deal.... even though this guy has a wonderful reputation, you are trusting your family with this vehicle, and for the extra few thousand you can get a vehicle that isn't salvaged and maybe safer in a crash.
Also, the NHTSA website for crash test results (http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/testing/ncap/), indicates that Expedition is the only SUV that has ever received double five star crash ratings. The new Tahoe scored only three stars for the driver. The Sequoia hasn't been rated yet by NHTSA, but the Tundra on which it is based also scored only three stars...the Sequoia being heavier but with a common front frame design could be worse. I don't know why Ford hasn't used this in their advertising, but I have seen it on the window stickers of new Expeditions.
I was glad to see the cash results you shared. Being the family car it made me feel better, but a little confused. I was watching 60 minutes or 20/20, something like that, and they reported the the Ford F150 recieved the worst crash rating of all large trucks, overall was 2 stars I think. This was the offset head-on at 40mph. I know the Expy is based on the F250 frame not the F150, but does it make sense that there is that much difference between the 150 and 250? I don't know, just asking if someone out there knows?
I have to admit I was a bit shocked by the poor crash test result for the F150 in the offset test. I would guess the Expedition would not do so well, too, though there could be a big difference with the additional strength from the b, c, and d pillars. At the end of the day, though, the Expedition has EXTREMELY low injury and fatality rates. I think the F150 has pretty low injury and fatality rates, too.
I was interested in getting a console to go in between the rear bucket seats, anyone had any luck finding a good one for that? I did get a chance to look at the Steel Horse consoles at K-Mart and for $50 they seem really poor quality. Many of the van consoles will probably not work since they are made for a long flat surface, and the area in between the buckets is not exactly flat. Any help would be appreciated.
On the topic of tires. My dealer only has Goodyears in stock. Are the Michelins worth waiting for? Seems like those are the ones everyone is asking for.
BTW- What state do you live in? Hard to believe that 6600 miles still constitutes a "new" truck. Here in Colorado, state law says that once a venicle has over 2000 miles on it, its USED, even if it has never been sold to a consumer.
Brock55, About the semi-used Expy; We test drove one similar to what you are describing before buying new. I would be cautious because you don't know how it was broken in. As for the price, seems a little high depending on the options. The 34400 sounds like around dealer (after rebate) cost for a new one but with 6600 miles you should be able to get them a little lower.
I am in my second week of my new Expy EB. I got a good deal on a lease, and I am happy :^)
...except that Ford went and changed the dipstick on me. My previous Expy, a '98 with the 5.4L, had a cable-type dip stick that was much easier to use. The new truck has a traditional "strap-type" stick. Anyone out there hear anything about why they may have switched?
SST
Does 34400 still sound good? Just want to see what anyone else has saw.
Thanks for the help.
I'm using a cargo roof carrier for the first time this week. I Have the Expy EB with LLS. I think it raises the car about 1" while in transit. Is there a better position on the roof for mileage or noise. In other words should I put it as far forward as possible, as far back as possible, or somewhere in the middle? Any ideas.
Secondly, if you get and Expedition with a 5.4L the towing capacity is 7,300 lbs. so you should have pleny of capability. (This 7,300 lbs is for a 2001 Expedition ... I don't think it was any different a few years ago.?)
(Sorry couldn't resist)
Now for some helpful information. We have the 5.4 L Triton V-8 4wd Eddie bauer and get 14mpg around town and have been getting around 16.5 - 17mpg on long trips depending on the incline. We now have 17,000 on our 2000 Expy. Definitely worth the upgrade to power and quiet ride. Almost idles up small inclines so overall less downshifting and more quiet.