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Special Service Vehicle Pkg. (fleet only) est. Job #1 ‚ 9/9/02
(51P) Tire Pressure Monitor production delayed until 8/5/02
(240A) FX4 Off Road Pkg. on hold until 9/3/02
XLT standard steel wheel on hold until 9/3/02, to be substituted with bright alloy aluminum wheels at no charge
Moonroof option may delay production by 4 weeks
Everything underneath in the 2003 is much more desirable than the previous Expedition model. The exterior is an entirely different issue. I really don't like the looks of the 2003 Expedition. The style looks good on the smaller Explorer but not on the bigger Expedition. It looks too chunky IMO. I prefer the exterior of the 2002 Expedition and the driveability of the 2003. I opted not to get either...
"Warning-tire very low" This means put air in one of the main tires right away.
"Check tire pressure" This means tire pressure is a little high or low in one of the main tires.
"Check spare tire pressure" This means tire pressure is high or low in the spare tire.
I don't know what the values are for the different messages. This system is better than that in many cars because it also monitors the spare.
It was level when I picked it up from the dealer, but over the last 500 miles something changed. Since there is no Air suspension everyone is perplexed. Unfortunately Ford has put a brake system in the Expedition, that creates brake dust.
I hate brake dust. What could ford be thinking.
Here we have a beautiful vehicle that looks dirty all the time because the wheels are black with brake dust. Is it because they are to cheap to engineer a brake system that not only works well, but does not cause brake dust. Besides the fact the black dust looks horrible, how bad is it for our environment ? If I had known before I purchased this 2003 Expedition, about how bad the black dust would be, I would have gone with the Yukon.
Steve
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All brakes create dust. Ante up the $40 for brake dust shields.
Brake dust is a fact of life. You are stopping a heavy truck.
Also, RE my post about vibrations. It seems my local Tire Kingdom had a broken wheel balancer. I'll go in this weekend to see if rebalancing solves my rear vibration at 40-55 MPH.
stang92, the Expedition/F150 changed for 99. If you want to have an Expy with a newer look get a 99+. I myself have a 97 Expedition and a 1998 F150 because I did not want to have the plastic bumper that was installed on 99+. Besides the front bumper, nothing much was changed. But as your username states that you have a mustang dont expect a quick acceleration. I used to have a 1996 GT before this and the Expy is much slower.
It all also depends on the engine choice. As you may already know, there is a 5.4 V8 and a 4.6 V8. I have the 4.6 and can say that it is very reliable. Iam at 101k miles with no problems. Good luck on finding your dream truck.
1) I have less headroom/legroom in the back than a 2002 expy.
2) Overall, the 2003 is shorter by 2 inches vs a 2002
3)the trunk base is only 49" when you have rear air vs 54" for a 2002.
also what's up with those cheap silvery handles on the inside?
No car company is perfect, but alot of the things in the Expy are very appealing to an expecting couple. Those pedals, everyone should be rushing to get them to market. Why is Ford so far ahead of the pack on this one?
Anyhow, looking to see what this will be like. I must say, it's a different ride than the old. We don't have the 'air' suspension, couldn't afford an EB, but this rides as well as an LS Tahoe, the only other vehicle we considered after ruling out the Sequoia as too pricey. X-plan price hard to obtain this early, but we got it locally; guess we're lucky. The other 2 dealers would only drop 500 bucks.
Curiously, all three dealers had T-birds and SVT Lightnings in stock. All nice colors. Surprising.
Glad to be back, Ford fans.
That's good to hear. We plan to keep this until at least as long, since it's so expensive compared to our Accord. Gotta get our money's worth.
Did you cut the rotors when installing the ceramic pads? If not, are you getting any squeal?
Does any one know the right way to get the bar off? If it makes a difference I have a 2000 Expedition.
Fortunately the new 4R75W 5.4 3v (VCT, dual spark plugs, IAFM, ECT with torque based shift, electronic returnless fuel system) will be out (in fall) along with the new 5R100W transmission. New engine is capable of 305 - 325 hp (I hear we will get the 305 which is still an improvement). Torque rated 365-385ft-lbs. New mpg ??
Enjoy the news.
in regards to the 4.6 engine.
I own a '99 xlt with the 4.6, according to my research this engine horsepower is listed as 240. It states this in the owners manual and in other sources I have looked.
Is it possible that the '99 4.6L is the most powerful of any of the years?
My research shows 220hp for 97-98, and 217hp for 2000-2001 and 237hp for 2002-03.
Can anybody dispute these findings?
the other years. Did they compensate with increased torque or different rear axle ratios?
Would I feel the difference if I drove a '00 vs. my
'99 xlt?
Is my resale higher because of the hp for the '99
year?
The vehicle was simply amazing, especially for a "truck." The IRS did wonders for the ride, and interior packaging; and the rack & pinion steering felt great too.
If Ford can keep this vehicle recall-free, they will have a HUGE hit on their hands.
Bob
A new 5sp auto will also compliment the 5.4. 305 hp and inproved mpg.
However, all that was out the window after we drove the 03 Expe. The lower floor for the 3rd row seat is a major improvement and well worth it for those of us with boys who will stretch out into men in the next 5 years. We're big safety fans so the safety canopy airbag and rollover sensors are a big plus. I like the 40/20/40 mid row seats and the ride was slightly improved (IMHO). However, I did feel the 4.6 was a little underpowered even though that's what we have in the 00. I like the "art deco" look for the dash and am ready to pull the trigger if the right incentive hits the street. We can get $100 over dealer cost from our preferred dealer, but the one closest to home (in a nicer neighborhood) wanted about $2500 over invoice; about $500 more than a Sequoia that stickered $3k more! It's hard to believe what dealers still try to get away with.
We've been "good deal" lease advocates for about 8 years now, but since everyone jumped on the bandwagon there just aren't any available. There's been some artifically low money factors and residual bumps that have helped us along the way. $419/m with $1k down for a $34k MSRP 00 when it was new! Without the lease deal we've been hoping for a good rebate to match GM's (and Ford's) $2500 on the 02s. Anyone have a guess when Ford will match it for the 03? My guess is they have to do it soon since there really aren't (m)any 02s on the lots now (none in my area) and it will surely cost Ford market share, given that the GM 03s aren't out yet. That can't be a good thing for a new launch. That coupled with the production delays has got to help us out. My dealer thinks first quarter 03 will be the time, at least using traditional thinking, I'm just wondering what everyone else is thinking? I can wait it out if need be, but I'll be checking the Edmunds incentive page daily!
Bob
But...I'm having difficulty finding a dealer with a loaded 2003 4x4 EB - everything but the Navigation system is a must, and I'd probably take that if I can get it, in White. I got an e-mail sticker/offer from a dealer, at just below TMV, but then the car "hadn't been delivered to the dealer yet, although it was due in June," so I'm still looking. If anyone knows where I can find one in So. Cal. at a decent price, I'd be obliged.
FYI, since dealers don't seem to know, I called Ford and found out that Tire Pressure monitoring won't be available for months, not sure when, and (despite what some magazine reviews state)air shocks are not identified as an available option -I guess they designed the cut-off switch and the "if equipped" label inside the little door in the left rear panel before they knew they would not offer it. One dealer rep was told by Ford that load leveling is no longer deemed necessary with IRS, as a towed tongue weight of 700-800 lbs should cause minimal squat.