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Volvo C70

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  • schuhcschuhc Posts: 333
    I do have the oil changed every 3,000 to 3,500 miles. I also let the car idle for about a minute before driving. I do not do it after driving, as per Tmart, I live in a residential area so I have a good 3 minutes for the turbo to spindown.

    So far with 77k my HPT has been pretty good. I check the floor every now and again for small oil drips as I understand that can be an indicator of turbo problems coming.

    Tmart...we may be down there in either Aug, Sept or Oct. I'll let you know.
  • tmarttmart Spring, TXPosts: 1,014
    As info, it's still rather HOT AND HUMID in August. Are you coming for business or pleasure?
  • schuhcschuhc Posts: 333
    Don't think that I'm gonna take Squeaker and Lisa to Budapest like I had planned so thought that I would come down with them to see our friends that moved down there. Haven't had any good seafood since 98 when I lived in Annapolis so looking forward to it.
  • tmarttmart Spring, TXPosts: 1,014
    There's bunches of great places to eat here. You definitely won't go hungry. Pappas has real good seafood as does Landry's. There's a great Cajun seafood place called Floyd's on FM1960 near me. Also the Aquarium downtown and at the Kemah Boardwalk.
  • agcpaagcpa Posts: 4
    I know there have been numerous discussions in the past regarding tires. But, maybe, none exactly as this question. So, here goes: I have q 2002 C70 with the original Pirelli 9000 tires. I have never really known how many miles I can get on the tires, because the tires attract nails and other problems like you wouldn't believe. Not a problem with tires; more an issue with my luck. Anyway, when getting two new tires this week, the dealer suggested I try some Toyo or Falken (sp?) tires. Their cost would have been about $140/tire for Y-rated tires rather than the $200/tire for the Pirelli's. Because I was only getting two tires and I wanted a match (brand and tread pattern), I opted for the Pirelli's (they ended up charging $170/tire), but I wonder if anyone has any experience with these other brands.
  • tmarttmart Spring, TXPosts: 1,014
    Pirelli 6000's and haven't any real problems with them. After buying the car I bought road hazard certificates from Discount Tire. Around 20k the tires developed cracks in the sidewall and Discount Tire replaced them at no cost.

    Just wondering if you got the wind deflector you'd asked about awhile back.
  • schuhcschuhc Posts: 333
    My best friend who has abandoned me and gone to the State where the Cubs main rivals reside in has a Lexus (the old two door that looks like a stretched out AMC Pacer). He just bought some Falkens for it two months ago and he absolutely loves them.
  • volvomaxvolvomax Posts: 5,274
    Michelin, Continental, Falken, Nitto and Yokohama all make good replacement tires for the C70.
    Naturally, there are cost, noise and wear differences between them.
  • schuhcschuhc Posts: 333
    My friend has the 18 inch Falken ZIEX tires. Great in the dry and wet of Houston but he says that the most pleasing thing about these tires vs. the Michelin's he had is the surprising low road noise. (He has a '96 Lexus SC400)

    Here is the website he directed me to. I think I may actually try the Falkens on my next go round given that the Potenza's cost me $140.

    http://www.discounttiredirect.com
  • agcpaagcpa Posts: 4
    Good memory on the windscreen. Yes, I ended up buying one. Got it out of a dealer from California (I believe). They had one in stock, shipped it, and I had it a couple of days later. Plus, it was about $100 less than the local dealers were charging, even with the shipping. Plus the local dealers were going to take a couple of weeks to get one in stock.

    As for the screen itself, seems terribly overpriced for what you get. Yes it works okay (though nothing spectacular, if you ask me). But over $300 for something that can't take more than $25 to make is ridiculous
  • schuhcschuhc Posts: 333
    Look for the 'swoosh' on that windscreen. I'm sure it's strategically placed.
  • tmarttmart Spring, TXPosts: 1,014
    Would probably be cheaper if it was. Actually, I think they're made in Germany and resold by Volvo.

    Agcpa, I agree they definitely seem/are way overpriced. You done good on your price. I paid dealer price, around $350 including tax. Several months later there was one on Ebay that went for around $200. Oh well. Believe the price was increased when the mounting hole in the back was changed from a slot to a circle. For my wife, it was money well spent to keep her hair from blowing. For us, the reduction in buffeting was dramatic, just as Volvo advertised.
  • shark715shark715 Posts: 380
    I replaced the original Pirelli's on my wife's '02 C70 (with 17" wheels) after 19K miles. The Pirellis were getting louder and louder with age. I bought Falken Ziex's, mainly because they were top rated in Consumer Reports, but also because we have an occasional need to drive in light snow. The Falken's are rated M&S and the Pirelli's were strictly summer tires. So far I've been very pleased with the Falkens. They have about 5K miles on them. They are MUCH quieter than the Pirellis. I love the way the 17" wheels look on the car, but the tradeoff is that the low sidewalls make for a significantly stiffer ride. It feels like the Falkens have softer sidewalls as the ride is noticeably less harsh than the Pirellis on a bumpy road. My guess is that there may be some tradeoff in terms of high performance handling (given the softer sidewalls and M&S tread pattern), but we rarely play "Rodney Race Car Driver" with this car. Also, the Pirellis were useless in the snow, and the Falkens are just O.K. I guess any tire of this size is going to tend to float in the snow (rather than dig in) because of the width.
  • shark715shark715 Posts: 380
    The reason the owner's manual mentions letting the engine idle for several minutes after hard driving is to let the turbo cool, but it's not the air in the engine compartment that cools the turbo...it's the engine oil which by design passes through and cools the bearings in the turbo. When you shut down your engine, the circulation of the engine oil through the turbo stops, too. If you shut down an engine with a hot turbo, whatever oil is in the turbo at that time is going to continue to get heated well beyond the tempature the oil is formulated to endure. If the oil gets hot enough, when the oil eventually cools it will tend to turn into a crusty carbon like substance which will prevent fresh oil from properly getting to the bearings in your turbo in the future. And given that turbos spin up to 100,000 RPM, the bearings won't tend to last long without proper lubrication. At a truck stop you will often notice that truckers will run their turbodiesel engines for several minutes after arriving before shutting them down. It's for the same reason...to prevent damage to the turbo. You definitely want to follow the owner's manual. If you don't, you will be a VERY unhappy Volvo owner when you hear the cost of a new Volvo turbocharger.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,540
    all true, but air circulating past the turbo and past the engine (where the oil is) certainly does not hurt cooling. Also, the high-pressure turbo in these vehicles does not spin up until beyond 2k rpms. So driving around at low speeds keeps the rpms below that point and, therefore, is just as effective at accomplishing the task as sitting still idling.

    '13 Stang GT; '15 Fit; '98 Volvo S70; '14 Town&Country

  • shark715shark715 Posts: 380
    qbrozen, Agreed. The turbo will sufficiently cool down by driving more moderately for 5-10 minutes before shutting the engine down. One other thing to point out (and I don't beleive the Volvo owners manuals mention this) is that you also want to avoid driving your car hard until the engine is thoroughly warmed up...at least several miles. This is because until your engine is throughly warmed up, some of the parts don't fit quite as well as they do once the engine is fully warmed to its designed operating temperature, and the different materials used on different parts expand at different rates as they are being warmed up. Problems caused by things not fitting quite right can be exasperated by driving a vehicle hard before it's fully warmed up. For example, it's not unusual for a failed head gasket to be attributed to this issue. And the stresses a turbocharger places on a engine make this issue even more pronounced. A great way to extend the life of any engine is to warm it for several minutes before driving the vehicle, especially in colder weather, but there's even a benefit in warmer weather.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,353
    What you really don't want to do with a turbo is to shut the engine off with the turbo still spinning really fast. Some people still have the habit from their dads of revving the engine before shutting it down. This comes from the "old days" of when cars had inefficient generators.

    Another not so good scenario is exiting a freeway after miles of high speed hot driving and pulling into a service station and immediately shutting off the engine.

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  • soledocsoledoc Posts: 52
    Well I did it. Turned in my beautiful 2001 C70 coupe. I hated to do it but it had to be done. I've now got a 2004 S60 T5 nautic blue/graphite leather split indigo cloth interior/xenon/moonroof/touring/climate/sport packages. It is very nice indeed. Only about 500 miles but here's my impression compared to the C70 so far:

    1. Definitely nice to have four doors with a small child
    2. Pick up in the GT 247 hp is a bit faster than the 236 HPT MT in the C70
    3. Love love love the color combination
    (check out the photos here http://pbase.com/soledoc_t5
    4. Sport suspension on S60 is a bit tighter
    5. Better wheels on S60 which are 17" amalthea vs. the 16" I had on C70
    6. A lot of people tell me it looks like my C70...which is a GOOD thing in my mind...that's what I was going for...a subtle change
    7. Radio is equal
    8. Seats are equal...maybe a bit better in C70
    9. Don't like the 20 mph increments in S60 (10 in C70)
    10. I like the green on black display in S60 over the black on green background in C70 (minor detail)

    I'll keep you updated. I'm trying to keep my local dealership to buy my C70. They were all drooling when I brought it in. Two of the guys that work there are seriously considering buying it. I hope they do so it stays in the family. But if anybody sees an '01 C70 Coupe nautic blue/beige interior with dolby and a unique marble wood interior trim let me know...that's my car!!
  • soledocsoledoc Posts: 52
    Sorry about that address...here's the correct link to the pics of my C70 replacement:

    http://www.pbase.com/soledoc/S60_t5
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,540
    congrats, soledoc. Hey, at least its still a Volvo.

    shifty - that's a good point about the service station stop. I think that's the toughest one to avoid.

    '13 Stang GT; '15 Fit; '98 Volvo S70; '14 Town&Country

  • tmarttmart Spring, TXPosts: 1,014
    Four doors are a good thing. Beautiful pictures, by the way. Check back in with us from time to time.
  • schuhcschuhc Posts: 333
    Nice looking 60 there Soledoc. I have the same complaint about the 90 with regards to the spedometer. Don't like the 20 mph intervals. Especially not needed on the 90 as I was only able to get it up to 125 and that was downhill with a stiff wind and slipstreaming a Ferarri.
  • stevenh7stevenh7 Posts: 33
    My new C70 has 17" Michelin Pilots. When it's time for new tires, to allow for a smoother ride and to put on an all-season tire that would be good in the winter, is it at all smart to get new 16" rims and tires? I know it wouldn't look as nice but a smoother ride would be nice as long as handling isn't greatly impacted.
  • schuhcschuhc Posts: 333
    Steven:

    I honestly don't know what I'm going to do this year. My dealer says that Volvo only offers a 15 inch snow tire and that it is $650 for the rims and tires.

    I have not been made aware of an 'adequate' all season 17 inch tire that provides help in the snow. My Pilots were horrible and my Potenzas are not much better.

    Perhaps Soledoc can provide some guidance?????? (If he's still around).

    Something tells me that Tmart isn't gonna be any help on this one.
  • tmarttmart Spring, TXPosts: 1,014
    What are snow tires anyway?? I've heard of men made of snow, but not tires and wheels!
  • shark715shark715 Posts: 380
    Schuhc, are you familar with Bridgestone Blizzak LM-22's? They do make them in size 225/45-17, and one of my friends has them on his BMW 5 series. He swears by them, and they do seem to work as advertised. I also recall that either Car and Driver and/or Road and Track gave them high marks too. Needless to say, winter tires are somewhat of a compromise...you car won't handle as well as with summer tires, but at least you have a better shot of getting through the snow. You can find info on them at tirerack.com.
  • schuhcschuhc Posts: 333
    Danke Dudie!!!!

    Looks like I'll be purchasing a set of those this winter. In Chicago winters we really don't worry about winter handling....Just getting somewhere is good.

    Tommy...They're called SNOW TIRES....The wheels are made of ICE...Otherwise they wouldn't be able to handle the weight of the car...
    "Snow wheels"....sheesh! Durn Astro-lovers!!!
  • juliejulie Posts: 2
    I have 04 C70 and the vehicle is less then 1 yrs. old. Two weeks ago, I had to take it for repairs to the hindge. When I put the top down I heard a lound CRACK sound and then it tore the leather panel. The dealer fixed the hindge, but the leather panel is on back order for replacement. The service guy told me that has never happened, but I was not trying to put the top down while I was driving. I told him, how is that possible if the brake has to be up in order to put the top down.
  • otisotis Posts: 12
    My wife and I are just starting our C70 ownership experience. Everything's great so far...none of the problems listed at Edmunds has cropped up for us. My quick question for anyone who might know is what are Volvo's plans for the C70 line? My dealer said there would be no 2005 C70 but the 2004 model might be extended until introduction of a smaller C50...is that right? Has anyone seen what this C50 might look like?
  • schuhcschuhc Posts: 333
    I have seen a picture of the new model at the dealership (retractable hardtop) and it looks pretty nice.

    if you go into Google and type in volvo c50 there will be some good pic sites

    http://info.detnews.com/autosinsider/sneakpeek/index.cfm?id=14074
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