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While the numbers on the sticker are wonders to behold (such as 47 on the Fusion), I think I would much prefer to be pleasantly surprised by beating the EPA numbers than disappointed by falling short.
I do get it for the Subie mpg on the highway, but not how the others can be 47 and the XV only 34.
John
That's a rather huge discrepancy.
You have to ask the question, "what were they thinking?".
John
It should win that title without the hybrid powertrain because it is a compact car to begin with.
Of course it cold exceed EPA numbers, let's see the road tests.
It is, but it isn't. :sick:
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showpost.php?p=40172419&postcount=77
Tires are 225/60x18, so the rim size is 1" larger. They kept the adjustable fold-away roof rack. I also see memory seats. Hard to tell here with all the camo, but my gut tells me this car may be more sleek than the current model. I sure hope so. Note that it is accompanied by an Audi Allroad, which suggests it may be moving a bit upmarket.
Rumored to debut at Detroit show in January.
Bob
Since the Outback is getting 18" rims, I'm guessing the same holds true for the Legacy. The tires do look a bit larger here than on current models.
Profile suggests a bit of WRX Concept influence here—which is good.
Bob
I sure hope so on the sleek too. It wouldn't kill Subaru to have a hands down attractive car, particularly the sedan. The Impreza hatch is sort of growing on me though.
I'd be thrilled if one day the cars appeared like the concepts.
People don't seem to generally care about cars being ugly, though, so what's it really matter?
Sales still going thru the roof.
John
I think VW has proven that sales of US diesel cars can be profitable.
John
I'd be tempted by a diesel Subie too.
I'd love a diesel Subaru with a 6-speed manual tranny to replace my 2000 Legacy. Unfortunately, it looks like I might have to settle with an Impreza 5M to get reasonable mpg w/AWD.
If Golf & Jetta TDIs had AWD, Subaru would probably lose a sale. They don't require the "blue" additive and meet emission standards.
I think the Forester now has more interior and cargo space.
Ironically, now that the Outback has grown, a Tribeca based on that larger platform could be competitive. Look at Pilot, Highlander, and now Pathfinder sales. This is a big segment.
I doubt they will, though.
Hopefully with the increased sales/revenue over the last few years they have the development money to create something new for the segment.
Do this - let Subaru engineer it, which worked for the FT86. Toyota can add DI, cabin tech, and let each have a unique design.
http://theautopanel.blogspot.com/2013/11/2015-wrxsti-unofficially-revealed.html
Bob
Not nuts about the Legacy concept, very tired of the big character line colliding with the oversized front wheel well look. That's been done to death for me.
Like on the Impreza, the wheel wells up front look grafted on, though a bit less so on the Concept. They need to continue into the door panel at least for some elegance a la the Mazda 6.
http://www.autoblog.com/2013/11/20/2015-subaru-wrx-2013-la/
That could appear with 3 turbos:
small (1.6l it gets now)
medium (2.0l from the base WRX)
large (2.5l from the STI)
Made narrower than the sedan like the old WRX and STi which screams JDM - there is some tax or registration regs there which relate to wagons of a certain width. I have forgotten all the subtleties, but basically under 1.7m wide and less than 2.0L wagons are classified as compact commercial.
hmmm...I still think that the hybrid in the Crosstrek must be able to add more than 1 mpg highway. Ok, vs the Jetta hybrid, an AWD penalty of say 3 mpg, and a raised/higher profile penalty of 3 mpg, the Crosstrek hybrid should be able to make 40 mpg highway IMO. Seems reasonable given that the Impreza hatch with CVT will get 35mpg highway without difficulty.
John
Sedan, right? I think they stopped selling the wagon.
I'd take the previous wagon TDI over the new hybrid sedan.
The Jetta Sport Wagon with TDI is still for sale.
Could it be that they are just a little late in designing the hatch and it will follow the launch of the new WRX by a few months? Seems impossible to believe there will be no WRX hatchback after 2014.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
I think we will see the Levorg wagon here next year as a 2016 model. It's basically a more luxurious "GT" version of the WRX.
Bob
More Levorg concepts to be shown at the Tokyo Auto Salon in January.
Trying to figure out this new Edmunds format... Is there a way to delete your own post, within the 4-hour edit window?
Subaru to show a bunch of Levorg concepts at Tokyo Auto Salon in January.
http://www.edmunds.com/car-news/2014-subaru-levorg-concepts-to-bow-at-2014-tokyo-auto-salon.html
If you don't have a "Delete" option in the geartooth Tools menu at the top-right of the post, you can at least delete all the text in the Edit function and leave a blank post.
2015 WRX STI images leaked.
http://www.autoblog.com/2014/01/08/2015-subaru-wrx-sti-photos-leak/
This is the Launch Edition model. It's the only trim level with gold wheels. I'm hoping the Limited model comes without the arrest-me-now wing.
Bob