2014 Mercedes-Benz C-Class Lease Questions

mpgxsvcd · February 2014

@kyfdx@Edmunds said:
I don't have historical data, but that residual is very high. Residuals do often go down as the model year progresses, but car companies will often make other changes to the lease program, to keep the car affordable.

The only reason I asked is because the residual can matter a lot if you are thinking about buying the car and trying to resell it at the end of the lease. I went back and checked the resale value of most of the luxury cars from 3 years ago and none of them were anywhere close to 66%. Most were in the 45%-55% range.

Therefore with a car that has such a high residual you probably should be planning to turn it back in right from the start.

I had my loaded 2011 G37 sedan with 33500 miles and perfect condition(According to Carmax) appraised last night. Even with what they considered to be an outstanding offer they were still almost $5000 short of the residual. That residual was only 62% after 39 months. I have to think that even as hot a car as the CLA is it won’t be worth anywhere near 66% of MSRP in 36 months.

kyfdx · February 2014

Yeah.. the best way to turn a great lease deal into an average lease deal is to purchase the car at lease end. You want that high residual, to get a nice low payment for the lease term. After that, you give it back.

We also have a 2011 G37 lease.... and, when it's up in October, it's going back, too..

tyran910 · February 2014

Could you please provide the February RV and MF for a 2014 C350 Sport Sedan, 36mth, 15k. Thank you.

kyfdx · February 2014

@tyran910 said:
Could you please provide the February RV and MF for a 2014 C350 Sport Sedan, 36mth, 15k. Thank you.

Standard money factor and a whopping 65% residual.

octoucan · March 2014

Hello, I'm in SoCal (Orange county) and am looking to lease a C63 (sedan or coupe). I've been getting some really weird numbers from different dealers on similarly priced cars.

First I'd like to ask if you know of any good salesman/dealers around and if you have the MF, residual, along with effectiveness of MSD and direct pay.

Looking to lease 10K / 36m, zero down with MSD.

Thank you

kyfdx · March 2014

New lease program just came out, yesterday... It will be a few days before we get that information.

I will say that specialty vehicles (like the C63) usually have terrible lease programs... and, if you are looking at the Black Series, they'll be even worse. Also, dealers will assume that you aren't price sensitive, and may try to gouge you with mark-ups..

octoucan · March 2014

@kyfdx@Edmunds, Thank you for the information. Since the Black Series is sold out, none are available to lease.

I'm just looking for a standard C63 with LSD. Looking forward to seeing the numbers.

mpgxsvcd · March 2014

Kyfdx,

Will you let us know when you get the new MB lease numbers. I am trying to wrap up a deal this weekend and I wanted to know if the numbers changed at all.

chalkie1 · March 2014

KYFDX:

Thanks for all your help.Can u tell me March lease programs on the c 250 sport sedan: MF's, 27/36 month residuals for a 12000/yr lease, and the dealer cash provided by the manufacturer?

Thanks,

Chalkie

mpgxsvcd · March 2014

If you get the March numbers I would like to know what the 36 month 12k per year lease numbers are for the CLA250 with premium, sport, and multimedia(if that makes a difference).

kyfdx · March 2014

@octoucan said:
Hello, I'm in SoCal (Orange county) and am looking to lease a C63 (sedan or coupe). I've been getting some really weird numbers from different dealers on similarly priced cars.

First I'd like to ask if you know of any good salesman/dealers around and if you have the MF, residual, along with effectiveness of MSD and direct pay.

Looking to lease 10K / 36m, zero down with MSD.

Thank you

Standard money factor and 57% residual. The standard money factor is usually .00195-.00225, but dealers may mark it up for extra profit.

kyfdx · March 2014

@chalkie1 said:
KYFDX:

Thanks for all your help.Can u tell me March lease programs on the c 250 sport sedan: MF's, 27/36 month residuals for a 12000/yr lease, and the dealer cash provided by the manufacturer?

Thanks,

Chalkie

.00130 MF and 57% for 36mo, 12K/yr lease. 68% residual for 27 months.

kyfdx · March 2014

@mpgxsvcd said:
If you get the March numbers I would like to know what the 36 month 12k per year lease numbers are for the CLA250 with premium, sport, and multimedia(if that makes a difference).

.00145 MF and 65% residual.

octoucan · March 2014

kyfdx@Edmunds, Thank you for all the info.

Is the 57% residual for 15,000 miles / 36 months for C63? Dealer gave me money factor of .00195, but 59% residual on 10,000 miles / 36 months.

How would the numbers change if I go 7,500 miles a year for 24 month or 36 months?

Thanks again for all your help.

kyfdx · March 2014

@octoucan said:
kyfdx@Edmunds, Thank you for all the info.

Is the 57% residual for 15,000 miles / 36 months for C63? Dealer gave me money factor of .00195, but 59% residual on 10,000 miles / 36 months.

How would the numbers change if I go 7,500 miles a year for 24 month or 36 months?

Thanks again for all your help.

I show 57%. That's a pretty low volume vehicle... if they put out a special program on it, I'm not going to see that. 7.5K/yr lease residuals are 1% higher than 10K/yr.

I show 24 month residuals of 66%/65%, respectively for 7.5K/10K

frizz8636 · March 2014

kyfdx,

Could you tell me what the MF and residual would be on a 2014 c300 sport with the sport, lighting, premium 1, multimedia, and lane tracking packages (msrp 50,970)?

Looking for information for a 10k/27mo and a 7500/27mo lease.

Also curious what term length you would suggest. Keep in mind I do not plan on purchasing the vehicle at the end of the lease so a higher residual would be ideal (if im understanding this correctly).

Thanks in advance!

kyfdx · March 2014

@frizz8636 said:
kyfdx,

Could you tell me what the MF and residual would be on a 2014 c300 sport with the sport, lighting, premium 1, multimedia, and lane tracking packages (msrp 50,970)?

Looking for information for a 10k/27mo and a 7500/27mo lease.

Also curious what term length you would suggest. Keep in mind I do not plan on purchasing the vehicle at the end of the lease so a higher residual would be ideal (if im understanding this correctly).

Thanks in advance!

.00120 MF and 70% residual for 27 mo, 10K/yr. 71% for 7.5K/yr.

27 months is the best term.... and, you are correct... higher residuals equal lower payments.

ssarkar · March 2014

Hello,

Am completely new to leasing and do not understand much when people say money factor, residual,etc. I checked with a local Seattle MB dealer and here is what I got

C300W4 040 Black - $39,400
040 Black
121 Black MB Tex
P01 P01 Premium Package: SiriusXM® Satellite $2,500
U22 : 4-Way Lumbar Support
049 : iPod/MP3 Media Interface Cable
275 : Power Dr.Seat & Steering Col. w/ Memory 518 : Media Interface
536 : SIRIUS Satellite Radio
810 : harman/kardon Sound System w/Dolby 5.1 873 : Heated Front Seats
R95 17-Inch 5-Twin-Spoke Wheels
319 319 Lighting Package: Bi-Xenon Headlamps $1,390
608 : Intelligent Highbeam Control
615 : Bi-Xenon Active Light System
320 320 Multimedia Package: 7.0" Color Displ $2,860
U71 : DVD Coding
218 : Rearview Camera
512 : COMAND w/Navigation and Voice Control
333 333 Sport Sedan: Sport Body Styling, Me 4U4 : Radiator grill with central star
486 : Sport Suspension
772 : AMG Sportline
952 : Sportline Package
954 : Avant Garde Package (Sport)
731 Burl Walnut Wood Trim $325
889 KEYLESS-GO $650
917 SULEV (PZEV) emission package
SUBTOTAL $47,125
DESTINATION & DELIVERY $925
TOTAL $48,050

For the lease this are their break up numbers -

Retail Price - $48,050
Savings - $3,177
Selling Price - $44,873
Options $0
Fees - $450
Sales Tax - 2,535 (for Seattle)
Trade Allowance - $19,000 (this is what they are giving for my 2013 Altima 2.5SL with 14K miles)
Trade Payoff - 14,000 (The car is financed and this is the payoff)
Net Sell Price - $42,858

With 0 down -
24 MO/12K - $562; 27 MO/12K - $515; 36 MO/12K - $578

Guys need help to decide if this is a good offer or not. If not what should I shoot for and what should I settle for finally. Also let me know out of C300,328i and A4 which is a better option for lease.

mpgxsvcd · March 2014

@ssarkar said:

Retail Price - $48,050

Savings - $3,177

Selling Price - $44,873

Options $0

Fees - $450

Sales Tax - 2,535 (for Seattle)

Trade Allowance - $19,000 (this is what they are giving for my 2013 Altima 2.5SL with 14K miles)

Trade Payoff - 14,000 (The car is financed and this is the payoff)

Net Sell Price - $42,858

With 0 down -
24 MO/12K - $562; 27 MO/12K - $515; 36 MO/12K - $578

Guys need help to decide if this is a good offer or not. If not what should I shoot for and what should I settle for finally. Also let me know out of C300,328i and A4 which is a better option for lease.

Don't put the money from your trade-in into the lease. Just take that money and invest it for the lease term instead. Or do MSDs instead.

That 27 month lease looks really good but I would roll everything into the lease and not put any money down on it. If the car gets totaled or stolen you will lose your down payment instantly. Not worth the risk to save a few bucks a month in interest.

Ask them what Money Factor they are charging you. Ask them for the buy rate or walk away.

mpgxsvcd · March 2014

@kyfdx

Can you provide the current lease residuals and MF for a CLA250 for 27 months with 12K miles per year?

kyfdx · March 2014

@mpgxsvcd said:
kyfdx

Can you provide the current lease residuals and MF for a CLA250 for 27 months with 12K miles per year?

.00145 MF and 70% for 24mo, 12K/yr lease

If they are running a 27 month lease special, I don't have the info. The 36mo, 12K/yr residual is very good at 65%.

ssarkar · March 2014

@mpgxsvcd Thanks for your input

ssarkar · March 2014

@kyfdx What you think about the c300 deal that am getting?

julio91 · March 2014

@mpgxsvcd said:

@mpgxsvcd that $5,000.00 difference have it on your side and tell your sales man you are interested in Multiple security deposits to lower you interested rate on the loan. If ANYTHING happens to your car, you get you $5000.00 back no questions asked. Its a no brainier. It could possibly cut your payments about $40 to $60 a month. Definitely something to look into plus what ever you save a month you get your $5000.00 back. so you saving about $5000.00 ++. Hope this helps, Let us know how this goes ! best of luck

isuperjoei1 · April 2014

Hi,

I am trying to price a lease for a 2014 C250 coupe. If you could, I'm looking for the money factor and residual on a lease for 36 months and 10k per year. Also, do you know how much the money factor would be reduced per security deposit where offered?

Much thanks.

Yorty · April 2014

I am leasing a 2014 c300 27 months 10k miles they want $388 a month with $1680 down total. Is this a good deal? Can I get them down to 370 or 360 a month with same amount down? MSRP of car is 44,200.

kyfdx · April 2014

@isuperjoei1 said:
Hi,

I am trying to price a lease for a 2014 C250 coupe. If you could, I'm looking for the money factor and residual on a lease for 36 months and 10k per year. Also, do you know how much the money factor would be reduced per security deposit where offered?

Much thanks.

.00103 MF and 63% residual. There is a special 27 month program on this model, with a residual of 71% (same money factor).

I'm not sure that Mercedes offers the MSD discount against subvented money factors (below the standard money factor).

mb_ryna · April 2014

Does anyone have the April MF and residual values for a c300 4matic? If so, please provide 27, 33, 36 month values for both 10K and 12k/year miles.

Also, is anyone aware of any incentives? I have heard of $2500 off, but am told that is for a coupe only.

Thanks!

Michaell · April 2014

@mb_ryna said:
Does anyone have the April MF and residual values for a c300 4matic? If so, please provide 27, 33, 36 month values for both 10K and 12k/year miles.

Also, is anyone aware of any incentives? I have heard of $2500 off, but am told that is for a coupe only.

Thanks!

MF is .00120.

27 mo residual - 67%; 30 mo residual - 61%; 36 mo residual - 56%

No 33 mo residual available.

mb_ryna · April 2014

Thanks Michael. Are the residual percentages you provided for 10k or 12k/yr?

Michaell · April 2014

@mb_ryna said:
Thanks Michael. Are the residual percentages you provided for 10k or 12k/yr?

Base residuals are factored on 15K mpy. Add 2% for 12K and 3% for 10K.

mb_ryna · April 2014

I'll get more details about a deal in the works, but here is what I know so far. I would appreciate your comments.

C300 4matic sport. MSRP 50500, 6000 discount. MF .0011. I know the residual is 70% for 27 months and 64% for 30 months.

Questions:
1) do you think I can get a better discount?
2) The last time I leased, the residual was 1% higher/better as I took the pre-paid maintenance program (to which a residual also applies). Is that still in play now?

Thanks

kyfdx · April 2014

@mb_ryna said:
I'll get more details about a deal in the works, but here is what I know so far. I would appreciate your comments.

C300 4matic sport. MSRP 50500, 6000 discount. MF .0011. I know the residual is 70% for 27 months and 64% for 30 months.

Questions:
1) do you think I can get a better discount?
2) The last time I leased, the residual was 1% higher/better as I took the pre-paid maintenance program (to which a residual also applies). Is that still in play now?

Thanks

I don't think Mercedes will increase the residual for the maintenance plan, but you may be able to get it residualized, which would be a huge savings.

I show the money factor as .00120 for April on this model.

jrmiami · April 2014

@kyfdx%40Edmunds

Can you provide the April lease residuals and MF for a CLA250 for 36 months with 12K miles per year? Thanks in advance!

Michaell · April 2014

@jrmiami said:
kyfdx%40Edmunds

Can you provide the April lease residuals and MF for a CLA250 for 36 months with 12K miles per year? Thanks in advance!

.00145 and 65%

jrmiami · April 2014

Thanks @michaell@edmunds!

Michaell · April 2014

@jrmiami said:
Thanks michaell@edmunds!

Good luck with your shopping, and remember to come back and post your deal so others can benefit from it.

flight13 · April 2014

When you have a moment, could you please provide the April MF and Residual on a 2014 C250 for 27 mos with 15K? Thanks!

kyfdx · April 2014

@flight13 said:
When you have a moment, could you please provide the April MF and Residual on a 2014 C250 for 27 mos with 15K? Thanks!

Sedan?: .00130 MF and 66% residual

porsche911c4s · April 2014

Hi ky or Michelle. Do you have the MF/residual for cla250 4 matic...27/30/36 mo and 12k and 15k? Thanks!!

kyfdx · April 2014

@porsche911c4s said:
Hi ky or Michelle. Do you have the MF/residual for cla250 4 matic...27/30/36 mo and 12k and 15k? Thanks!!

.00145 MF and 68%, 64%, 63% for 24 month, 30 month and 36 month, 15K/yr leases.

Add 2% to all residuals for 12K/yr. I don't have numbers for 27 months..

At those numbers, you don't want to lease for any other term than 36 months.

mmratner · April 2014

What are the current numbers / specials on the 2014 C350 4-Matic coupe (27-36 months, 15K) ?

kyfdx · April 2014

@mmratner said:
What are the current numbers / specials on the 2014 C350 4-Matic coupe (27-36 months, 15K) ?

Standard money factor. 36mo, 15K residual of 60%. 24mo, 15K is 69%. I don't show any special 27 month program for this model.

rimini · April 2014

I was offered a $5,500 discount off MSRP on a 2014 C300 4matic with Premium 1, Sport plus and Becker Navi. I want to do a one pay based on MF of .00040 (.00120 - 0.00080 one pay discount), a residual value of 70% and 24 months term with 10K per year. Using my own lease calculator and including my state's 6% tax I came up with the following:

MSRP: $45,925
Dealer discount: $5,500
Negotiated price: $40,425

Monthly payment: $396.36 x 24 months + $795 acquisition fee = $10,307.64 total due at signing.

Can anyone confirm my calculations please?

Thanks,
Gene

bbsqueen · April 2014

Anyone has any luck to waive the destination and delivery fee?

bbsqueen · April 2014

Got a quote from a CLA250 4matic MSRP $41395
Premium 1 and Multimedia package , sunroof , bi xenon headlight, spolier, luminated star, mountain grey

36mths 10K miles
0.00141 money factor, 66% residual

$475 monthly is their offer before tax/acquisition/bank charge

Good deal? Sure there is still room to bargain as he asked me to counteroffer so to keep me sign the car right the way.

kyfdx · April 2014

@rimini said:
I was offered a $5,500 discount off MSRP on a 2014 C300 4matic with Premium 1, Sport plus and Becker Navi. I want to do a one pay based on MF of .00040 (.00120 - 0.00080 one pay discount), a residual value of 70% and 24 months term with 10K per year. Using my own lease calculator and including my state's 6% tax I came up with the following:

MSRP: $45,925
Dealer discount: $5,500
Negotiated price: $40,425

Monthly payment: $396.36 x 24 months + $795 acquisition fee = $10,307.64 total due at signing.

Can anyone confirm my calculations please?

Thanks,
Gene

I get the same that you do... But, the C300W4 has a special 27 month term, that uses the same terms as the 24 month lease... Go 27 months, and knock $40/mo. off...

But, I'm not sure that Mercedes will allow you the One-Pay discount, off of an already subvented money factor. They might... but, I doubt it.

kyfdx · April 2014

@bbsqueen said:
Anyone has any luck to waive the destination and delivery fee?

Any quote you get should include destination... If it doesn't, then they are just playing with the numbers to make it seem cheaper.

reaction · April 2014

What do you guys think about a loaded c250 coupe.

MSRP $51,250.00
Sale Price:$47,957.19
Rent charge: $2738.92
Depreciation amount: $9761.00
Monthly $500.00
Down: $3000.00
27/month
12k miles
MF: .00123% I believe

Michaell · April 2014

@reaction said:
What do you guys think about a loaded c250 coupe.

MSRP $51,250.00
Sale Price:$47,957.19
Rent charge: $2738.92
Depreciation amount: $9761.00
Monthly $500.00
Down: $3000.00
27/month
12k miles
MF: .00123% I believe

How much of the $3K down is going to cap cost reduction? It's not a good idea to do that - if the car is stolen or totaled, then you are out that money.

MF is marked up a bit .. base MF for the C250 Coupe is .00103. If I use the base MF with your MSRP and selling price and the residual of 70%, I get a pre-tax payment of $533.83 with no money down. Adding in the $3K down would reduce your payment by over $100/mo.

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