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GMC Yukon XL and Yukon XL Denali

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  • jamesk4jamesk4 Member Posts: 55
    Yes, it is true. I ordered today a 01' Yukon XL from Paul at Southern GM in Shelbyville, Ten. The price was $200.00 below invoice of using the models at Edmunds and Carpoint. $4686.00 less than sticker! I did have to pay the advertising fee plus $64.63 gross receipts tax and $2.00 license fee. I put the required downpayment of $1000.00 on my credit card. All handled over the phone in less than 5 minutes. Thanks to Fiber700 for the great assistance in locating this dealer. Please note, this dealer sells anything for $200.00 under invoice, on the lot or special order. Wowwwwwwwwwwwwwww!
  • kuyemurakuyemura Member Posts: 1
    I recently purchased lighted running boards (Cord Design, $350)for my 2001 Suburban from the Auto accessories web site. They look great but the installation instructions were rather vague on how to hook them up to the electrical system. When I called their technical service line, they were hesitant to give any advise and suggested I talk to an auto electrical specialist. Does anyone have any experience or advice on how to hook up the 2 simple wires so that they light up the running boards along with the interior courtesy lights?
    I ordered my LS with leather in September and received it in November from Ostrom Chevrolet in Montebello, CA. I got it for $1000 over invoice using the Costco Membership Discount... at the time, the best honest price in So CA. We're getting 17 mpg average and so far no problems except you really have to slam the rear cargo lift door to turn off the "cargo door ajar" light on the dash. Thanks to this Edmunds Town Hall, I got a safe car that meets my family's transportation needs, at a good price.
  • cwhit3cwhit3 Member Posts: 6
    I will appreciate any input on whether the Autoride suspension option makes sense for someone who doesn't plan to tow a trailer. Does it make the vehicle ride smoother, quieter, etc. than the standard suspension package? I am looking for the smoothest, most car-like ride I can get in this big truck. Or is the Autoride really designed only to help compensate for a trailer? In other words, is it worth paying extra and enduring whatever hassles there are in ordering this option in order to get a better ride?
  • alevy1alevy1 Member Posts: 4
    I recently purchased a 2001 Yukon XL 2500 LT (1SD)

    The truck comes with an in dash radio/CD player and a cassette deck in the console.

    I'd like to add a CD Changer unit... # of discs is unimportant.

    Dealer has a GMC 12-disc unit that must be mounted horizontally ON THE FLOOR behind the seats.

    Mounting the CD player on the floor is not practical for me ... (I bought the truck to put stuff in it!!)... I asked about the 6-disc changer that goes into the center console and is mounted vertically.

    (I saw one on a Chevy Suburban.)

    Dealer "guesses" that unit is not compatible with ONSTAR on my vehicle.

    Does anyone have any information or experience that can help me find a CD Changer for the console?

    I'd rather not install an aftermarket RF unit...but will if that's all that's out there.

    If you have part numbers... that would be fantastic!

    Thanks!!
  • alevy1alevy1 Member Posts: 4
    I also wondered what the differences were between the Chevy and the GMC...

    Mechanically they are the same... Obviously grilles, headlights, and badging are different, as are some of the moldings. Fender flares are different.. with Chevy having wide moldings and the GMC narrow ones.. the GMC's look more like a lip molding.

    Inside.. the leather is most definitely different. The GMC's leather is of slightly higher quality. The leather is of a different stitch pattern as well. (check the brochures and compare.)

    The Denali and (new) Escalade have different upholstery stitch patterns as too. I am nt certain about the Z71 Suburban.

    I was told that the headliner material is different, but have not been able to confirm.
  • wrb3wrb3 Member Posts: 1
    My vehicle has the Autoride option and the ride is surprisingly smooth for a heavy duty 4X4 truck.
    I would not have ordered that option but it was on
    the Yukon when I purchased it GMS. Since I did not test drive one with no Autoride I cannot say if it matters much. The 3/4 ton model doesn't have the self leveling feature of the 1/2 ton does
    but towing a 6500 lb. travel trailer with a tongue weight of 800 lbs makes practically no difference in how my Yukon XL rides. Surprised me at comfortable it is. Just my 2 cents worth.
  • kpannkpann Member Posts: 13
    Jamesk4, how much was the advertising fee?
  • ezduzit1ezduzit1 Member Posts: 5
    I will be picking up my White Yukon XL from Southern GM Friday afternoon. My invoice shows the advertising fee is referenced under inv. amt., called Dealer Co-Op Advertising, the amount is $431.05.
  • don4341don4341 Member Posts: 69
    If no one has answered by Friday - will check Service Manual and post splice points & wire colors.
  • jamesk4jamesk4 Member Posts: 55
    kpan, the adv fee was $358.77, which is 1.1% on my vehicle. I ordered the base vehicle with white letter tires.
  • chevydude2chevydude2 Member Posts: 36
    cwhit3.. I have a '00 Yukon XL -- 5.3L, 1SD, tow pkg and Autoride. Although I do occasionally tow a 6500# travel trailer, the ride on this baby with the Autoride option is awesome! It is much tighter in the turns and over "washboard" roads -- a vast improvement over my '96 Burb. I have driven both -- and would not have one without that option. Just my .02.....
  • msncowtnmsncowtn Member Posts: 18
    I have an '01' XL 1500 with Autoride. The difference is very impressive, and helps the vehicle achieve a near car-like ride... loaded or empty. I am totally pleased with the option. I believe it is very similar, if not the same system used Cadilac. Each shock has a sensing control unit which receives info produced by suspension activity. These sensing units audit this activity approx. 30 times/second. Shock damping is varied via a computer ctl unit, based on suspension activity. Its sort of like having several different shocks of different stiffness, which can be employed instantly, on demand. The only down side I can see would be having repairs done. I would bet the bill would be a king's ransom....
    I have extended warranty, so I'm not particularly concerned. Hope this info is helpful.
    Mike/DFW
  • kpannkpann Member Posts: 13
    Here in Charlotte I'm finding they charge 1% or more. I found a chevy dealer in Charleston, SC where I'm going to buy my Burb and they sell for $98.oo over invoice and only 1/2% advertising. I guess it comes out about the same as 200.00 under and 1.1% adver. They all just play there games.
  • diamond6diamond6 Member Posts: 4
    You are missing something in the pricing and most importantly in the equipment. The yukon xl has much more standard equipment than the suburban. If you then add the equipment to the suburban that is on the XL as standard equipment, you will find that the suburban is higher by a little more than $60.00. So I think you had better look at things a little closer before you jump to a purchase..
  • diamond6diamond6 Member Posts: 4
    I have a Yukon and looking to buy a bug deflector for it. I need some suggestions and comments from the others of you that have deflectors on your Yukons. I have been looking at the Interceptor made by Lund Industries, please give me your thoughts and comments??
  • northernxlnorthernxl Member Posts: 4
    I have'nt had any luck here in Calif having a dealer locate a sub or XL in the color and with the options I want. Basically looking for green with all options but sunroof. Anyway has anyone heard when we will be able to order 2002s and when production begins. The dealers here are extremely unhelpful. If you do not want something they have on their lot, your not a customer in their simple minds. Also I understand a 6-door version will be available as in suicide doors for easy access to third row. Has anyone confirmed GM will offer the 6.0 engine as an option for 2002? Thank you for your input.
  • jayr11jayr11 Member Posts: 1
    I am really ready to purchase a Yukon XL Denali or Yukon XL. However after reading all of the great information I am not sure if the truck is as great as I thought it was. I have a few more questions before I make the purchase.
    1.)Does the Black bumper of the XL Denali get scratched or is the chrome bumper on the Yukon XL more durable. I really like the look of the XL Denali, but not sure if the extra money is worth having the truck all one color.
    2.) It seems as though the truck still really has a lot of problems. My biggest concern is when my wife and kids are in the truck that they are in a dependable truck. The room in the XL is great I have three kids and a very big dog. Is the Window cracks more or less than other cars.

    If I decide to get just the Yukon XL instead of the XL Denali, what type of options should I get with this truck. Also does the CD player fit into the middle console and will the dealer put this in.

    Please give me your honest opinions about this truck. I was really excited until I started reading the bulletin boards. I am ready to go once I get a little more info.
  • andyl2andyl2 Member Posts: 84
    When I research the difference between a Denali XL and a Suburban LT/Yukon XL loaded, I found the price difference to be $4000-$4500. I viewed the equipment differences as follows:

    A. 6.0 Engine All Wheel drive $1500
    B. Bose Stereo $500
    C. In dash CD Chgr $500
    D. 17” Wheels $400
    E. Mich Cross Terrain Tires $300
    F. Interior enhancements $500
    E. Exterior trim enhancements $250

    Total $3950

    Notes:
    A. Includes 6.0 engine, heavy duty transmission, transmission temperature gauge, engine oil cooler, all wheel drive, heavy duty radiator

    F. Includes upgraded leather trim and console, heated rear seats, wood grain trim, trip computer

    I felt the difference between what I was paying for the increased content Vs what I was getting was a reasonable buy even though the price increase is several hundred more than the value of the added content. I felt the drive train, stereo, and tire/wheel enhancements were the key upgrades. I also understand that people could argue with the values I placed on the items. But, this is how I decided to buy a Denali XL over a standard Suburban/Yukon XL.

    1800 miles and I love my Denali.
  • almarktool1almarktool1 Member Posts: 3
    jay,
    go for the denali picked mine up last week the high output 6.0 engine only availble in the denali is excellant also the awd only availble in denali is incredible i was doing 40mph around turns in 1 inch of snow with out the slighest indication of wheel or tail end slipping the ride is great , don't worry about the bumpers and no i do not think u can put the cd changer in the location that it is in on the denali u only live once, go for the denali and you will never look back
  • fiber700fiber700 Member Posts: 18
    I wish the difference was only $4500 as you state, but the real price difference is closer to $9000. What you need to do is compare the price you can get a Yukon for versus what price you can get a Denali for. Most dealers will not negogiate on the Denali price, while they will give $3000-$5000 off of a Yukon without much trouble. Thus the real price difference is about $9000.
  • uveauvea Member Posts: 1
    I am considering ordering a new Suburban and want to get the Z71 off road package. However, I haven't seen that much discussion in this forum about this option. Does anyone out there have it on their 2001 Suburban?.... or is it just a hoax? I like the idea of the 17 inch wheels, the skid plates, the heavy duty shocks etc... but, in reality, these options could all be added to a regular bur order and you wouldn't be confined to the AS series, or the 1500. Am I right in this distinction? Anyone else out there with other comments or insights?
  • dw93vettedw93vette Member Posts: 2
    I order a new 01Suburban on 12/19/2000 TPW was 1/29/2001.The dealer called on 1/22/2001 to say it was in transit,then called the next day to say it had arrived. I thought it would take 8 to 14 weeks before it would arrive . I was surprized. Just like My 1995 Suburban (61k.) it will be replacing it too was built in Janesville,WI. My 1995 has been a great truck DW93Vette
  • 767fo767fo Member Posts: 1
    I looked at and test drove both. The 6.0 and Autoride impressed me on the first turn out of the dealers lot. The dealer was willing to work with me on the price for the Denali...and I got it for $500 over invoice (the same as his deal on a Yukon). This is by far the coolest vehicle I have ever had, with the exception of my '66 Mercedes 230SL.
  • rh22182rh22182 Member Posts: 3
    THanks for all the great information. I have done more research and have definitely found that they are much closer in price. I'm wondering if anyone can tell me if the Suburban's premium ride suspension is the same suspension that is on the Yukon's SLT? We have driven both in the last week, and have been told the suspensions are the same, but the Yukon seemed to feel much smoother. Also, is there a difference in the brake systems like the GMC dealer told us? He said something about the GMC's system adjusting to the load. But I haven't been able to find anything out about that from any independent source. We're still in research mode, but I think we're getting closer. We aren't in a rush as long as we have something by mid April for a family vacation. I'll keep reading these posts. They have been very helpful.
  • csotbcsotb Member Posts: 8
    We picked up our 2000 Suburban K2500 LS on Saturday. It is amazingly comfortable and roomy and really soaks up those Michigan potholes. The owner's manual doesn't seem to contain any suggestions on care for the leather seats. Can anyone recommend any products? Should the seats be treated immediately, while they're still new? I would also like to get some skid plates (the only factory option missing) - does anyone have info about aftermarket skid plates? Any help would be appreciated.
  • rpirpi Member Posts: 7
    I own a 2000 Yukon XL 1500 with the ISD SLT package. This includes the ZW7 Premium Smooth Ride Suspension. Does anyone find this suspension harsh? GMC website describes the suspension as touring and firm. I find it harsh over highway expansion joints and small bumps as though the shock damping is too firm. Any comments would be appreciated.
  • andyl2andyl2 Member Posts: 84
    Fiber700, the difference is the $4500 I stated. I purchased a Denali XL for $500 over invoice. I could have also purchased a regular YXL for $500 over invoice, making the difference $4500.
  • discjockey1discjockey1 Member Posts: 1
    Just took delivery of my YXL two weeks ago and love it. However notice some movement in the passenger front seat when braking or accelerating. Seems a little loose. Anyone else notice this???
  • jnj91jnj91 Member Posts: 55
    Has anyone purchased the GM Extended Warranty on their 2001 Yukon XL or Suburban LT? What is the price on the 6yr/100,000 mile, -0- deductable? From what I understand it's a little higher but more inclusive than the 3rd party coverage. Maybe there is a GM web site that lists prices.? Any help would be appreciated.
  • fiber700fiber700 Member Posts: 18
    There is a GM dealer that sells the GM extended warranties on the web at a discount price. His web site at www.gmwarrantycentral.com will give a price quote online. I took a printout of the online price quote to my dealer, who matched the price (which was $450 less than the dealer originally quoted me).

    Extended warranties are like anything else, the price on them can be negotiated.
  • grogman1grogman1 Member Posts: 76
    I plan on ordering a YXL 1/2 ton this week and wanted to know which model of the Michelins are recommended(or any other tire for that matter) to swap out the standard Firestones. Also would like to know how other concerned buyers have handled the tires issue. When I initially spoke with the dealer about the Firestones I got the feeling that there was some willingness to take care of swapping them out, but I didn't pursue it any further at that time. Comments much appreciated.
  • fltrsei2fltrsei2 Member Posts: 9
    I know there is a lot of recommendations of Michelin tires. I had the LTX M&S on my pickup and liked them alot on the highway (very quiet and excellent handling) and wet pavement. But in the snow, forgetaboutit! I now have Yokohama Geolander AT's. Incredible in the snow, excellent in the rain and pretty good dry handling (up to 95mph)and braking. There is an article in Automobile magazine (SUB issue) rating SUV tires and both brands are mentioned. Worth a look.
  • rleonardrleonard Member Posts: 17
    HAS ANYONE GOTTEN A FIX FOR THIS PROBLEM? HAS ANYONE GOTTEN ANY ANSWER FROM GM DEALER OR ANYONE? NEED AMMO FOR ARBITRATION THURS 8TH FEB. PLEASE!!
  • martini132martini132 Member Posts: 2
    After several days of searching the interned, I went to the local MC dealer in our town of 25,000 armed with the price quotes from Edmunds.com. First offer was $200 under invoice, plus the Advertisement/Adjustment fee of $808. I went outside and got my paper showing the quotes and immediately the dealer gave me the vehicle for the invoice price MINUS the Ad/Ad fee. The vehicle was ordered and I was out of the dealership in 10 minutes. Never has this happened to me before!!! MSRP was $41,195 and I purchased said vehicle for $36,071. All Star Pontiac-GMC, Jack Hebert, owner. Amy Hebert, salesperson. Sulphur, LA. 337-527-6391.
  • g5jsliug5jsliu Member Posts: 1
    To get rid of the fogging problem in the cabin during cold & damp winter days, I found it is very effective to have the front defroster and the A/C turned on with temperature set at about 70 degree. This method has been working very well on my 1998 Suburban 4wd 1500LT.

    However, for my new 2001 Suburban 4wd 1500LT. The A/C indicator light just won't stay on during the winter. No matter how many times the A/C button was pressed. According to the local Chewy service manager, the compressor will only kick in automatically if outside temperature is hot enough? Is this true? Can I override this smart A/C feature'? Appreciate all inputs.
  • jtbuffjtbuff Member Posts: 25
    Took My 2001 Yukon XL to dealer a few weeks back and they could not fix the cold air problem. Told me GM knows it has a problem and are supposed to be working on it. I hope they come up with a fix.Made a few trips to Chicago this winter and it is really cold on the legs on passenger side.Had to cover legs with blanket.Don't want to have to put up with this problem for as long as I have this vehicle.
  • escaladepimpescaladepimp Member Posts: 12
    Does anyone know for SURE whether the DENALI's wood is real or plastic?
  • jamesk4jamesk4 Member Posts: 55
    Michelin has just introduced the new Michelin Cross Terrain SUV tire manufactured especially for SUV's. Available in blackwall or white outlined letters. You can go to Michelin.com and check it out. This looks to be the correct replacement Michelin tire without having to go up two or three sizes.

    Has anyone had any personal experience with this new tire????
  • traveller2traveller2 Member Posts: 7
    If you look a little closer at these tires, they are P-metric vs. LT's ( light truck ). Which means they are not meant for the weight and loads of a YXL. Also, the sizes available are for the smaller foreign SUV's. just my 2 cents worth.
  • rpirpi Member Posts: 7
    The Yukon XLis equipped with P-metric tire from GM. The Cross Terrain tire from Michelin is standard equipment on the Denali and Denali XL although in 17" size. I posted a question previously to which I received no response regarding the suspension on the Yukon XL. I find it harsh on broken pavement, especially on cold days. I tried Michelin LTX LT265/75/R16 tires as replacements for the stock Firestone crap and found the LT too harsh. It worked fine with my old 95 Yukon, but the shock damping is far too firm on the 2000/2001 Yukun XL for this tire. The tire dealer exchanged the LT for a P265/70/R16 which improved things tremendously. I still find the suspension harsh, however the LTX M/S greatly improved the ride over the stock Firestones. My question still remains, does anyone else find the shock damping too stiff for this truck or is it that I am not used to this size of truck. Comments please.
  • grogman1grogman1 Member Posts: 76
    I was looking at the window sticker of the YXL that I'm going to take delivery of soon. Anyone know why the line "Delete Third Row Floor Mats -$46.00 appears. I'm sure it's simple but the dealer couldn't give me an answer. Anyone ? Anyone?

    Thanks
  • circutmanncircutmann Member Posts: 40
    While you indicate your YXL is a 2000, mine is a 2001. I find my 1500 Auto-ride suspension to be extremely smooth, especially @ highway speeds 55 - 80 mph over broken pavement. I see the bumps, but hardly feel them, if at all. At city speeds (<,=) 30 mph, I do feel them, but they are very subdued, much better than my 93 Sub, which actually is pretty good, due to size & weight. I have no complaints on the ride quality, & I am still using the Tombstones.

    I do have 1 small annoyance, though. In addition to the cold air draft from under the glove box, (wife covers her legs while on long trips), I find that my front auto-climate control has intermittent wide temperature swings while trying to maintain a setpoint. On a long trip, I find that the warm air from the dash vents, becomes very cool, then back to warm, almost every 10-15 minutes. The problem exists, regardless of the temperature setpoint. It does actually help to keep me from getting drowsey though! Has anyone else had this problem? I will take it into the dealer soon, & am wondering if this is a common complaint, or just my vehicle; & what the cause might be, if others have had this fixed on their YXL.

    DISCJOCKEY1 msg 526 I do not have any movement in any of my seats while accellerating or on decel. I'd get that checked out!
  • msncowtnmsncowtn Member Posts: 18
    I agree with circutmann, my 1/2 ton Autoride continues to impress, not only me, but everyone that has ridden in , or driven the trk. The speed bump test is a hoot. My feeling is that many sales people are telling prospective customers that "you only need Autoride if you're hauling heavy loads". Par for the course.... only a small percentage of these sales reps have adequate knowledge of the products they are selling. I am somewhat amused that they are shooting themselves in the foot, and I have a feature that only a small number of owners have, which is a valuable option. Note; Have not pulled my boat yet (2500 gtw), but have read several posts which indicate that Autoride makes noticeable difference when pulling trailers. It pays to do your homework!
    Mike/DFW
  • escaladepimpescaladepimp Member Posts: 12
    does the Denali have a leather 3rd row or a vinyl 3rd row? does anyone know for SURE?
  • jtbuffjtbuff Member Posts: 25
    I've posted several times about cold air on passenger side.Dealer could not fix it. GM is supposed to be working on the problem. Like I said before hope they find a fix. It's a little annoying having to cover your legs when you go on a long trip in winter,especially after paying so much for the vehicle.
  • pgreubelpgreubel Member Posts: 3
    OK, I'm ready to replace my 1994 sub. I need a little advise on the following:
    1. There seems to be a lot of Yukon XL's on the dealer lots in California. So how much should I expect to pay over invoice?
    2. Does the 6.0 3/4 ton give you a lot more power than the 1/2 ton? The H.P. is only 15 points different.
    3. What kind of mileage should I expect with the 6.0? City/Hwy?
    4. Is Autoride worth it?

    I appreciate any information from those of you who are in the know.
  • vinnie6vinnie6 Member Posts: 20
    In evaluating ride quality on these vehicles one should not forget that these are trucks first and capable of things that cars aren't. Part of that capability comes from suspensions that are firmer and tougher than your father's Oldsmobile.

    That having been said, my 3/4 ton 4x4 with 8.1 engine and Autoride is amazing. It's still a high capacity truck and is suspended with that in mind, but the ride and handling is reminiscent of many properly designed sedans. (By this I mean performance sedans, not "floating down the road" American luxo-barges.) I always feel in control of the vehicle and quick lane change and avoidance maneuvers are a real pleasure compared to previous Suburbans I have owned. And it pulls and controls my 10,250 pound travel trailer with ease.

    By the way, last tank of mixed city-highway (not towing) driving was 11.9 MPG. (Don't have towing MPG numbers which are meaningful yet.) Impressive for a vehicle weighing over 7500 pounds. I couldn't be happier.
  • azbassazbass Member Posts: 5
    I have a 2wd 3/4 ton with the 6.0L 4.10 rear end. I agree with Vinnie. Even for a 3/4 ton this truck rides very nicely and I have replaced the Firestones with E load range Michelin LTX M/S 265/75/16. As far as power, it beats my 99 5.3 silverado by quite a bit when I'm towing my boat in the mountains

    Mileage:
    14.5 mpg city or highway (doesn't seem to matter)
    11.5 towing my 4000 lb bass boat
  • gpm5gpm5 Member Posts: 785
    Can someone give me off the top of their heads the liers (L) to cubic inch conversions on these engines. I'm still used to thinking in terms of cu. in. Thanks much.
  • campo57campo57 Member Posts: 94
    Just multiply liters by 61.02 to get cubic inches.

    Campo57
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