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Hahhahahahaha! Dave, you are on a serious roll! As far as the CVT goes, there's nothing wrong with it aside from it still being an automatic; I simply prefer manual.
Very nice Dave.
I think you will be very happy with the Forester. Does it have navigation? What dealer did you get it from?
BTW, you're not the only one who likes CVTs.
Bob
Dave, glad to see no one was hurt in the deer strike, congratulations and good luck with the new forester.
Cheers Pat..
No, it does not have navigation or Eyesight, but does have HIDs, Keyless Access/Start, 18" rims, Harman Kardon speakers, etc. Got it from Rafferty Subaru.
Thanks Pat. And very belated condolences on your loss of Mac.
Catching up after another long hiatus from the boards. Dave: Sorry to hear about your conflict with Bambi, but it sounds like you have a nice new ride. You did have me going for a bit with the BMW post, and I had to read it twice before I laughed!
Speaking of Bambi, I have (had?) the nicest line of Hosta plants along the driveway, and this morning they were gone! I got sloppy with my application of Liquid Fence, and the herd staged a stealth attack overnight.
Yeah, it was weird driving into the dealership with a brand new car.
Opening Father's Day weekend ... Revenge of the Herds. See movie listings for locations and times.
I love Hostas; they make a great ground cover around ornamental trees, etc. No luck with that sort of thing in these parts, though. I have to wonder if the moose would bother...? Probably - they're spiteful that way!
What is this "liquid fence?" Is it garden-safe? Effective?
The deer love them in the UP too, but mostly they love my neighbor's garden more.
In topical news, I no longer own a Subaru. We've downsized to one car, an '09 Grand Caravan.
That's sad, Steve. It was nice knowing you!
In topical news.... your honorary membership starts now!
Thanks, and if you see an F-150 with TN plates pulling a pop-up camper around Fairbanks, that's my brother.
I shall keep my eyes peeled!
I disagree - toss him to the curb for selling his Subi!
Liquid Fence is putrified eggs and other good stuff. If you are a mammal with any sort of nose you will likely hightail it in the opposite direction! It typically takes some training to change the feeding habits of the deer, so initially you spray it (2 oz of concentrate to a qt of water) each week for a month, and then you can slack off to a maintenance dose of every 4 weeks or so.
But I got sloppy and the younger brood, not knowing they should skirt my land, came in to feed. I sprayed when I got home last night and by then they'd gone after not just the hostas but also the hydrangeas, flox and a bunch of other stuff. Do I look like I'm operating an unlimited salad bar???
Thanks for the added info, Steve! I'm not sure that solution will work for us, since my wife is highly sensitive to smells and she has to be able to stand being in her own yard/garden! But, I'll mention it to her.
Wes, day 1 is a bit nasty, but it quickly fades to the point that only dog & deer noses can detect it! Spray it on days she's planning to be out, or before you call it a night. And after a few weeks you'll only be using it once a month anyhow. It's a small price to pay to enjoy a beautiful garden and to have a yard devoid of deer poop.
Congratulations, Bob!
I'm so happy for you!
--kate
SubaruBucks no more! Just got a letter from Chase. My Subie Chase card will be replaced with Chase Freedom. AAAAAAA!
Also rec'd a letter today. Rumor was that it was going to end in September, but Chase was mum about it. Would have been nice if they had given a little more advance notice.
Thanks Kate! Everyone is doing well. Ben has almost doubled his weight since he was born.
one very beautiful boy!
is Juice still around here?
Thanks. We think so too.
Saw AJ and family on Labor Day. They stopped by to see the baby. Not sure why he hasn't been posting? It's been very slow here on the Subaru forums for some time. Hardly anybody posts here anymore.
OK Subanistas - I've become enamored with this:
2012 Legacy 2.5i with Navigation
White over what they call Ivory leather trimmed seats - looks like cloth to me.
Unicorn spec 6 speed manual
Asking $17,900 with 28K on the clock.
What should I look for>
Thought I heard that Juice's employer blocked access to a bunch of websites from work?
Don't know anything about that.
Well, tell him to at least check in sometime. I wanna know how those "new" phones are working out.
Mmmm....a six speed manual! Can't even get a manual on the Legacy/Outback any more. Just when they started moving the looks of the car in the right direction. /sigh
I think 2012 is when they moved the Legacy to the new FB engine, so that's a plus. 28K miles means there wasn't really enough time to do anything too terribly wrong to the car (unless it is still on its first oil change!). Ivory leather seating sounds nice, except for the potential for scuff/stain marks.
Overall, sounds like a reasonable deal given age, mileage, and cost of new. Where is the region? Any potential for flood damage or some other nasty surprise?
Looks like it is time for me to check my mail to get the details....
I'm not even sure what to replace them with. Most "rewards programs" are so useless these days, and there's pretty much ZERO out there in the automotive realm.
I think 2012 is when they moved the Legacy to the new FB engine, so that's a plus. 28K miles means there wasn't really enough time to do anything too terribly wrong to the car (unless it is still on its first oil change!). Ivory leather seating sounds nice, except for the potential for scuff/stain marks.
Overall, sounds like a reasonable deal given age, mileage, and cost of new. Where is the region? Any potential for flood damage or some other nasty surprise?
According to Carfax, it has 38K miles. It's had two owners and 3 service records in that time. All use looks to be in New England. Here is the vehicle:
http://www.herbchambers.com/used/Subaru/2012-Subaru-Legacy-d3127c760a0a00de1a719c214c271e88.htm
That is cloth interior. They didn't make leather with the manual in 2012, now that I think about it. Photos are horrible, so that may be a concern when considering the quality of the dealer.
Two owners in 38,000 miles... ? Could be a warning sign, could be nothing. Mine has had a bit of a history, too. I found out by accident last month that the original purchaser was a male (dealer said the buyer who traded it to them was an older female), so it may be that mine had two previous owners and it only had <14K on the clock!
Sometimes manual transmissions lead to short ownership times because people just didn't get what they thought they'd get out of the manual.
First year for FB25 in Legacy/Outback was 2013.
Forester = 2011
Impreza = 2012 (FB20)
This is the biggest dealer group in Boston - 52 locations - and I've bought 2 cars from them. They are very good.
I'm thinking sloppy info entry.
Sadness. But, I've had four of the EJ25 blocks, and all were (and are) good cars; just a little more concern related to head gasket longevity.
Rob, that's good news regarding the dealer. It still doesn't excuse the poor photo quality (seems like they're all terribly washed out, which is further enhanced by the copious amounts of light colors on/in the car).
Apparently, not even Arizona cars are safe from flooding!
HelmetHeadBob!Bummer when work interferes with real life. I'm surprised we haven't lost you to the grandkid.
Rob, congrats on the new ride.
My Subaru Impreza is now less unique. I've moved out of Calif into Subaru country (northern Nevada). They are everywhere. Lots of 2012, '13, '14 Imprezas in addition to the other Subie models.
Interesting @jfl. I don't remember seeing tons of them back when we had relations to visit in Carson City. Are you near Reno or over toward Elko? (apologies if you told me this before).
The styling is LEAGUES improved over the last generation! Subtle, but improved in all the right places.
Pretty sure I drove my Outback there at least once when visiting the in-laws.
Next is the size. Legacy has grown up. It is much larger and has tons of head and leg room in the front and back. The 05 LGT appeared tiny next to it. Getting it home and into the driveway, I found it didn't fit all that well. To get the nose out of the street, I have to back it in to almost touching the bushes in front of the house. It is well over a foot longer and definitely wider than Karen's 09 Outback.
As for the refinements ... where do I start? The interior is roomy, well laid out, and materials are softer including the leather. The technology is amazing! HID headlights, led lighting, keyless access, pushbutton start (yes, I got remote added), auto dimming outside mirrors with blind spot detection and puddle lighting, the 12 speaker H/K stereo ... I could go on and on. Mikey is completely stretched out in the backseat with room to spare and saying "are these heating vents? ... are these ... heated seats????"
Wasn't a fan of the CVT ... but that was the only option. And actually, it is not bad at all. Combined with the 3.6, it is smooth power from the second you hit the pedal ... although I do miss the snap of the turbo. I got 28mpg on the first tank and it uses regular gas compared to the 21-22mpg I was getting on premium fuel.
The deal was something else. I had cross-shopped a second dealer, and called a third dealer before going to my usual dealer, collected some information and numbers, then left uncommitted. A week later, I returned a call from the salesman who said he had car I wanted in the color and options and to please come back.
Armed with all the information I needed and ready to battle, he immediately took me to the Sales Manager who offered the car at $600 below invoice and increased the trade to the max on my 05 LGT with 146k miles. I was floored because I was ready to offer $500 over invoice and would have taken the final trade offer from earlier. I instantly placed a deposit on a car that I had never seen or driven; because there were no black Legacy's around, just a couple red and blue 2.5i's, one was a Premium, none were Limited, and the 3.6's were all 'In Transit'.
Five weeks later when it arrived, I was not disappointed in the least. In the time it took me to get to the dealer on Saturday morning, the said there were two other people 'interested' in my car.
The jury is still out on whether I like the HIDs on my 2015 Forester 2.5i Touring. The whiter light is nice, but I don't know if they are noticeably brighter. YMMV on the Legacy because IIRC it has projector HIDs vs reflector HIDs on the Forester.
My Forester has LED parking lights, LED lights in the side mirrors (turn signals & approach lighting) but that's it. Does the Legacy have other LED lighting?
Love the keyless access / push button start. The only negative is that the lights don't stay on until you pull out the key, since there is no key to pull out. lol
Auto dimming outside mirrors are nice, but unfortunately blind spot detection isn't available on the Forester. Like the LED lights that shine on the door handles.
The jury is also still out on the H/K stereo. Forester only has 8 speakers though.
My '02 OBW just turned 13, and the '14 is a few day shy of her first year. And let's not talk about our '08 Sienna van. If it wasn't for the extended warranty I'd be crying a river these days. Around $4k in engine work over the past three weeks, luckily on their dime.
Last week we went up to Geneseo (near Rochester) to visit Freshman Emily. Another 800 miles on Toyota's service loaner, so I guess something to be happy about! It's a huge change not having her around, and I really miss her face.
Hate to tell you this but after my daughters left for college, one only came back for a few months to prep for the bar exam and free rent before her job started.
My younger daughter stayed to work in NYC and then moved to Atlanta where she's working now.
We're relieved that they're both working and successful.
We do miss them, but being an empty nester isn't bad.
Jim
On another note keep her away from hailstorms.
Say Hi to Mikey.
Cheers Pat.
My online account was converted to Chase Freedom card today (10/1).