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  • ritasritas Posts: 1
    I got my Escape just over a week ago and I love it. Drives really nice. I ordered mine and got it 3 months later. Well worth the wait.
  • Just got my Chrome Yellow XLT loaded to the nines a month ago. The last SUV I had was a Lincoln Navigator, so I called this my Mini-Lincoln. Can't say anything bad about this SUV except that it gets only 11 Miles per Imperial Gallon in the city. That's like about 9.5 MPG in US gallons. Same MPG as my Navigator. My Ford dealer said to break it in for about 5 months and then is should get better mileage. He just wants to get rid of me for 5 months. Sorry, but if Ford can't build a 3000 pound SUV with a high tech V-6 that gets 20 MPG in the city then they lose again. Mine's for sale!!
  • Just bought an escape from greenlight.com in the DC area I am paying 21,408 for the XLT with auto, leather, sunnroof and privacy glass. this is right at invoice
  • My wife and I just finished washing our Escape and she noticed that the license plate didn't fit right. First off, the mounting studs are unusually small, mine took a #10 machine screw check to see if the screws fit properly. Second, there are no provisions to keep the plate from rubbing the paint. I put some rubber bumpers behind the plate above and below each mounting hole and at each lower corner of the plate. Now it fits snugly and wont rub the paint off and rust.
  • Mr. Navigator, before ASSuming that every Escape gets poor mileage you might want ot check our facts.

    There is no reason your Esape should be getting only 9 miles per gallon! Something is definitely wrong with it.

    Many new Escape owners over on Yahoo's Escape Club get 20-25 mpg on their first or second tank of gas.

    Go get that Escape checked, or, stop driving everywhere in second gear!

    : )
  • Is there any different interior between the Tribute and Escape? I heard the Escape interior looks much cheaper than the Tribute. The seat in the Escape also less leather than the Tribute. Is this true? Any Escape/Tribute has this feeling or just someone say this because it is a Ford.
  • skyrebskyreb Posts: 129
    For two cars made on the same assembly line, there are minor differences in both the interior and exterior. Plus they drive slightly different. It will all come down to personal likes and dislikes. After months of investigation and many test drives of both, and the competition, I ordered an Escape Friday. I do not think there is any better vehicle in the class. Why the Escape over the Tribute? There is a local Ford dealer that I like/trust, and the Mazda dealer is very distant.
    Autobytel.com was cheaper by about $200, but I still ordered locally. Same reason as above.
    Sure I wish there were features that are not included, but for the money, I think this is a tremendous value compared to the in-class competition.
  • steve234steve234 Posts: 460
    The reason for the complaints about the interior is that you cannot please everyone. Some people hate the plastic look and some cannot stand wood look. Some cannot be pleased period. Look at seadoo13. They love the vehicle but are going to get rid of it after only a month because the mileage is bad. Rather than get he dealer to fix it, they are selling it. Some people have more money than brains. Don't let all the hype about the recalls worry you. It is almost all minor stuff that would not get an ounce of publicity if it weren't for the hoopla over Firestone.
  • Hey gang,

    I had to go over to St. Joe, Missouri over the weekend and was able to visit the Ford Assembly Plant in Claycomo, Missouri, a little town Northeast of Kansas City and Southeast of St. Joe.

    What a sight!

    This is one huge plant!

    They make the F-150 and the Ford Escape and the Mazda Tributes.

    I saw literally hundreds and hundreds of Escapes on every parking lot/storage area, with a lot of F-150s, not nearly as many Tributes.

    Now why can't they get MINE to me?

    : )
  • fry4fry4 Posts: 1
    Mr Navigator I know how you feel.I took a beating and traded in a 97 Eddie Baur Expedition for mine. I was going for gas mileage as you probably were.
    The last tank which included a 160 mile highway trip yeilded me 14.7 mpg. This is not much better than Expedition, with 5.4 engine and twice as good a ride and hauling capabilities got.
    The worst part for me is I can't afford to take another beating for a while so I'll have to stick it out.
    It has only got 950 miles but I can't imagine it ever getting what I was told it would.
    Other than that it's a pretty nice little vehicle.
    Would like to add we drive it in the D position and unless somebody,at the plant, screwed up this is not 2nd gear.
  • Thank you for those people who reply/answer my questions. Since the day that I design to buy a new car, I did a lot of research on the mini-SUV. I just cannot tell myself to buy a CRV instead of the Escape because I like its handling and baking. However, I heard a lot of people say that Ford is a bad company and the cars from Ford are very easy to break down. Is it ture? I know someone in Edmunds.com tell me that he got a Crown Victoria with 178k milage and my escort also has 103k right and it did not give my any trouble. (except I change the alternator and timing belt) Why some people say that? Did anyone has the same feeling too? Please tell me.
  • i went to the Honda Dealer expecting a very nice test drive from the H car. i got into a 22,000 Ex honda CRV, AWD, Auto, Air, the works.
    First things first, i could not get to a conforatble driving position!, adjusted the crappy seats for 5 minuites and still could not set them rite. the stering wheel is stuck at a constant 30degrees tilt forward like a bus. driving the CRV was a disaster, tons of road noise, buzzy 4banger with NO power down low, underdampened ride like an old Lincoln... i told the sailsman where i can turn around because this car was not for me!
    the best part is that for 22K you dont get a center console or a V6 ! ESCAPE WINS no compairsion
  • 1jimv11jimv1 Posts: 108
    The Ford CD4-E automatic transmission used in the Escape/Tribune has me worried because it was designed for a 2.0 liter 130 hp engine in 1994, had a few problems that kept happening so frequently and were so hard to fix that Ford had to make serious running changes up through 1998. Then in 1999 they decided to "beef it up" and use it on a larger engine for the First time: the 3.0 liter 200 hp Duratek in the Escape/Tribute. Even on the 2 liter engine it wore out first, and when you rebuilt it at a cost of about $2500, it was too worn out to last. Imagine how it will hold up with an engine that is 50% bigger! Fortunately, the Mazda 626, the Ford Contour, and the Escape are closer to the same weight, so it won't have 50% more work to do moving them. Personally, I like transmissions that are so rugged that they wear out last! You can count on them, but they are expensive, and Escape is Not expensive. We live in a throwaway technology because there is always something new and inexpensive around the corner. That would be the new CVT (continuously variable transmission) that Ford is about to introduce on a vehicle in 2001. This new AT has no shift points and no slip and saves 15% 0n fuel. ZF Batavia in Batavia, Ohio is building it as well as the "beefed-up" CD4-E. Ford is already using the CVT in Europe and expects to ramp up to 1 million per year by 2005. Our CD4-E looks like a make-do hand-me-down that won't be fixed any further. Next year a new 2.3 liter I4 engine will be the base engine for Escape and it is surely a better match for the CD4-E. It would be bliss if the V6 would come with a properly sized CVT next year but as we have seen, Ford takes its time to do anything. www.dustbury.com/626/trans.html
  • Is Ford going to have a new transmission on the Escape?
  • 1jimv11jimv1 Posts: 108
    (newdriver2)
    I consider a "beefed-up" CD4-E applied on a 3.0 liter engine to be a "new transmission" since it should have required significant changes and testing and this result has not yet been fully tested in production or the marketplace. Yes, you could say we have a "new" transmission now. As always, when you actually buy a car you take what's there. My post was just to share my own caution with you and others. That's why we're here, right? As far as the CVT, you can't buy that now and I don't expect it soon enough from Ford to influence my current buying decision on Escape.
  • steve234steve234 Posts: 460
    If Ford is such a bad company, they would not stay in business. Ford has one of the better reputations in the market. That is not to say that they do not have an occassional problems. We are dealing with a constantly changing market that does not allow any manufacturer the luxury of bullet proofing everything. These people that are telling you all these negative things about Ford are probably big on 'their' brand with all sorts of excuses why it is superior. Ford does a great job of building vehicles, just don't expect perfection and don't expect good advice from naysayers. They are too full of sour grapes to be objective.
  • How many peole experienced the fuel smell when they start the Tribute/Escape in warm?
  • hanushanus Posts: 1
    I did a lot of reading before I leased my escape and recieved delivery last Friday (I always buy out at end of lease-because I take good car of my vehicles). I leased sight unseen and was pleasantly surprised when delivered. I also sold a 90 Jeep Cherokee for this lease, and own a 98 Explorer. The roominess is great-same size as the Cherokee as best I can tell. Smaller than the Explorer (4 dr). Got all options except side air & steps. It is 4 wheel drive. No problems but have only driven it 100 miles. I would recommend vehicle. Rides good and handles like a car not the big feel of the Explorer. Size is perfect for me. No problems as I have read on the other posts, but again only 6 days and 100 miles.
  • 1jimv11jimv1 Posts: 108
    Ford delayed implementation until at least year end due to regulatory snags in California.
  • I noticed you mentioned that you leased your escape! What kind of rates did you get? What are your monthly payments?

    I was considering leasing it, but the prices were too high. I was going to wait for an incentive of some sort.
  • jimjetjimjet Posts: 27
    I'm just in the browsing stage, I'm always browsing - actually bought a 2000 V6 5sp Mystique last Dec - very satisfied with it.
    One feature I really appreciate on the Escape are the TWO grab-handles each for both the driver and front passenger. Very practical assistance for entry and exit. The Honda CRV doesn't have any.

    I've heard a rumor that a 2.3 litre four cylinder will be offered in the next year or two. That's when I'll get serious about buying. What excellent dimensions this Escape has - inside and out. Good luck to all - take your time and order it exactly as you want.
  • Has anyone received a better deal? I am feeling pretty good about the purchase and am waiting for the catch...I just ordered my Escape FWD XLT V6 3.0 with moonroof, privacy glass, and side step bars in wedgewood blue. The edmunds and KBB listed the DEALER INVOICE at $20, 868. I got mine for $118 LESS than the invoice $20,750 delivered! No extra advertising/paperwork crap! Just state tax. Now, I have to wait for what seems like forever to get it. This dealer said, "I'm not going to tell you what you want to hear, I'm telling you the truth...you probably won't have it until about April." Anyone else have to wait about 4 1/2 months? He mentioned about a fire in the warehouse as well as other problems. Any thoughts?
  • You can feel very good about you purchase! The Escape is in high demand and low supply. Most people buying them off the showroom are paying at MSRP or even above!

    I got mine for about $300 under list. You did great!

    Congrats.

    And, re. the sad news of delivery date, your dealer might be a bit too pessimistic.

    Also, make sure you get the actual order number from your dealer! That way you can track your purchase through Ford's Customer Service Center.
  • So i posted before i read. Looks like many got the same amazing deal I did and eVeRyOnE is waiting. Well, I'm joining the club. At least I know what problems to look for when mine arrives. I am devestated by the MPG issue. Boy I hope 10MPG is an exception. I spent all I had on my new Escape and will be pinching pennies. Yeesh. By the way, I never considered the side-step bars being a messy-pant-leg problem. I just liked the way they looked. And what is the benefit of 16 inch wheels rather than 15? Maybe I can change my order.
  • I've just ordered my Escape. The delivery date is February 23rd. That's seems better then most of the dates, which I've seen posted here.
    I'm not too sure about the price, though. I've ordered a XLT 4WD, black, 3.0 V6 engine, Leather group, Power Moonroof, Privacy glass, Front Side Airbags.
    The invoice price is $23,196.
    I'm paying $23,891 for the car, including all fees AND the destination charge, excluding tax and license, but no other hidden charges.
    Does this sound reasonable?
  • tronsrtronsr Posts: 46
    Go to blueovalnews.com {the fifth recall was announced for units built between 10/12 and 11/16 for wiper motor failure.At least mine is still not scheduled so by the time they build mine, maybe all the "kinks" will be corrected {I HOPE}.
  • I wouldn't worry about your mpg yet, beastycat. I ignored the advice in the owner's manual about not checking mpg until I broke it in, and found I recieved 18.3 mpg on my second tank of gas (all city driving). Since then, my mpg has varied between 20 mpg for city and 23 mpg on mostly interstate driving (averaging 80 mph). I too have a 6 cylinder 2WD XLT and the performance is incredible for an SUV. Also, the owner's manual says to use 87 octane fuel, so you'll save a bit there too.
  • Thank you for your kind words PTMCCAIN and SCTERRELL. By the way PT, I too went to gaze at the Escapes at the Claycomo plant. HUNDREDS! Wondering if you, or anyone for that matter, could explain to me how to track my order. I have the VIN # but was not given an actual finish date. I did check out the FORD customer service web site but couldn't figure it out. I would love to get a delivery estimate. THANKS
  • Just passed the 1K miles point. I keep VERY accurate mileage records. Getting 15 mpg in my to-from work commute in Phila city traffic with the V-6 and 4x4. The mileage is increasing with each fill-up. (For comparison, I used a severely underpowered 93 Escort and got 22.5 mpg over 7 years in same commute.) The Escape is great, no problems to date. Great seating position and interior room for a 'small' vehicle, plenty of power. Could nit-pick about the interior, but overall very happy.
  • Beasty cat, I would highly recommend that you join Yahoo's Esape Club. There are close to 1000 people on it and we are up to 10,000 messages. Lots of info there. There is a FAQ in the photo section that explains how to track orders through Ford's "Vehicle Order Processing Center" or VOPC.

    Check it out.
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