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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,282
    sharpkan said:

    Hi what are the current figures for a 2014 SEL 3 year lease with 15k miles in 91107

    Hybrid or Energi?

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  • sharpkansharpkan Member Posts: 18
    Michaell said:

    Hi what are the current figures for a 2014 SEL 3 year lease with 15k miles in 91107

    Hybrid or Energi?

    Sorry, for the Energi


  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,282
    sharpkan said:


    Michaell said:

    sharpkan said:

    Hi what are the current figures for a 2014 SEL 3 year lease with 15k miles in 91107

    Hybrid or Energi?


    Sorry, for the Energi



    2014 C-Max Energi 36/15 - .25% MF with $6507 of lease cash.

    However, the only trim level I show for residual values for the Energi is Premium. Residual for 36/15 is 46%.

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  • sharpkansharpkan Member Posts: 18
    Michaell said:

    sharpkan said:


    Michaell said:

    sharpkan said:

    Hi what are the current figures for a 2014 SEL 3 year lease with 15k miles in 91107

    Hybrid or Energi?


    Sorry, for the Energi



    2014 C-Max Energi 36/15 - .25% MF with $6507 of lease cash.

    However, the only trim level I show for residual values for the Energi is Premium. Residual for 36/15 is 46%.


    Thanks for the quick reply.

    What is included in "Premium" trim level then? I have yet to see any car window sticker be listed as a "Premium" trim, only SEL with different equipment groups
  • sharpkansharpkan Member Posts: 18
    edited September 2014

    Also, please can you tell me the numbers you have for 24mo?


    Is 10.5, 12, 15 all separated by 2% residual?

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 237,109
    sharpkan said:

    Also, please can you tell me the numbers you have for 24mo?


    Is 10.5, 12, 15 all separated by 2% residual?

    1.00% APR and 55% for 24mo, 15K/yr. +2% for 12K/yr or +3% for 10.5K/yr

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  • sharpkansharpkan Member Posts: 18
    Does anyone know if October rates stay the same? Looks like they bumped the RCL Cash to $6,757
  • sharpkansharpkan Member Posts: 18
    I haven't found any "official" numbers still but based on Ford.com payment calculator they updated it to use the Same APR's but a residual of 54% for 24mo and 45% for 36mo.

    Their quoted "due at signing" includes 1st month payment (without tax) and a $645 acquisition fee.

    Hope this helps someone.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 237,109
    sharpkan said:

    Hi what are the current figures for a 2014 Energi SEL 3 year lease with 15k miles in 91107


    0.50% APR and 45% residual. $6507 lease cash.

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  • sharpkansharpkan Member Posts: 18
    kyfdx said:

    sharpkan said:

    Hi what are the current figures for a 2014 Energi SEL 3 year lease with 15k miles in 91107


    0.50% APR and 45% residual. $6507 lease cash.

    Do you mean $6757 lease cash? Edmunds incentives page for the 2014 CMax energi is showing that number.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 237,109
    sharpkan said:

    kyfdx said:

    sharpkan said:

    Hi what are the current figures for a 2014 Energi SEL 3 year lease with 15k miles in 91107


    0.50% APR and 45% residual. $6507 lease cash.

    Do you mean $6757 lease cash? Edmunds incentives page for the 2014 CMax energi is showing that number.

    That's the only number I have.. I don't get them from Edmunds. (doesn't mean their number isn't correct.. I only have what I have).

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  • sharpkansharpkan Member Posts: 18
    kyfdx said:

    Hi what are the current figures for a 2014 Energi SEL 3 year lease with 15k miles in 91107

    0.50% APR and 45% residual. $6507 lease cash.
    Do you mean $6757 lease cash? Edmunds incentives page for the 2014 CMax energi is showing that number.
    That's the only number I have.. I don't get them from Edmunds. (doesn't mean their number isn't correct.. I only have what I have).

    Gotcha, thanks for the info kyfdx.

  • siricepicksiricepick Member Posts: 2
    edited December 2014
    Hi there,

    Can you tell me what is the December numbers are for a '14 Energi? 36 mo, 10.5k mi?

    I see support of $6757 and loyalty of $1000. Am I correct here? Is there any other support I'm missing for a lease? My zip is 91106. Thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 237,109

    Hi there,

    Can you tell me what is the December numbers are for a '14 Energi? 36 mo, 10.5k mi?

    I see support of $6757 and loyalty of $1000. Am I correct here? Is there any other support I'm missing for a lease? My zip is 91106. Thanks!


    0.50% APR and 48% residual. I show lease cash of $6507, but it may be higher in your area.

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  • siricepicksiricepick Member Posts: 2
    kyfdx said:

    Hi there,

    Can you tell me what is the December numbers are for a '14 Energi? 36 mo, 10.5k mi?

    I see support of $6757 and loyalty of $1000. Am I correct here? Is there any other support I'm missing for a lease? My zip is 91106. Thanks!


    0.50% APR and 48% residual. I show lease cash of $6507, but it may be higher in your area.
    Thank you!
  • goldieatxgoldieatx Member Posts: 26
    Looking to confirm lease terms and incentives on a 2014 C-Max Hybrid SEL in Texas. Will probably do 36/15k. I'm expecting something like 2% APR and 49% residual. Is it just $1500 lease cash? Does the other retail cash or dream big cash apply to a lease? Do you know if I can combine the lease conquest cash with the lease cash? Anything else I don't know about? I appreciate the response.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,282
    goldieatx said:

    Looking to confirm lease terms and incentives on a 2014 C-Max Hybrid SEL in Texas. Will probably do 36/15k. I'm expecting something like 2% APR and 49% residual. Is it just $1500 lease cash? Does the other retail cash or dream big cash apply to a lease? Do you know if I can combine the lease conquest cash with the lease cash? Anything else I don't know about? I appreciate the response.

    51% residual, but I don't have any MF information for the 2014 model year at this time.

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  • goldieatxgoldieatx Member Posts: 26
    Thanks for the response. Wish I had seen it before I finished my negotiations; it would have cleared up some confusion. In any event, I got a 2014 C-Max Hybrid SEL with 301A package (navigation) last week.

    MSRP $29,190
    Sale price $27,400 (including "free" tint)

    Lease cash $1,500
    Conquest cash $1,000

    Which seemed like a perfectly adequate deal. A little unsatisfying, but that was the best they could do. But then apparently the factory or the bank kicks in most of the tax (which amounted to about a $1,400 additional discount in Texas). That made me feel better.

    36 months, 15k per year
    APR 3.25% (MF .00135)
    Residual 51%


    I think the high money factor was a trade-off for the tax deal above, but I had trouble finding out. They originally told me 2.25% and 49%, but then when I reverse-engineer my contract, it's swapped to 3.25% and 51%. Which is a negligible effect. I just wonder now whether they needlessly padded the rate by 1 point. Too late to worry, I suppose. And I'm generally happy nonetheless.

    Zero down. Taxes, gov't fees, acquisition, and dealer doc fee all rolled into the lease, for a net cap of about $26k.
    I drive off for just my $365 first payment.
    I got the impression that it was a solid year-end deal, and I take delivery tomorrow after they finish the tint.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,282
    goldieatx said:

    Thanks for the response. Wish I had seen it before I finished my negotiations; it would have cleared up some confusion. In any event, I got a 2014 C-Max Hybrid SEL with 301A package (navigation) last week.

    MSRP $29,190
    Sale price $27,400 (including "free" tint)

    Lease cash $1,500
    Conquest cash $1,000

    Which seemed like a perfectly adequate deal. A little unsatisfying, but that was the best they could do. But then apparently the factory or the bank kicks in most of the tax (which amounted to about a $1,400 additional discount in Texas). That made me feel better.

    36 months, 15k per year
    APR 3.25% (MF .00135)
    Residual 51%


    I think the high money factor was a trade-off for the tax deal above, but I had trouble finding out. They originally told me 2.25% and 49%, but then when I reverse-engineer my contract, it's swapped to 3.25% and 51%. Which is a negligible effect. I just wonder now whether they needlessly padded the rate by 1 point. Too late to worry, I suppose. And I'm generally happy nonetheless.

    Zero down. Taxes, gov't fees, acquisition, and dealer doc fee all rolled into the lease, for a net cap of about $26k.
    I drive off for just my $365 first payment.
    I got the impression that it was a solid year-end deal, and I take delivery tomorrow after they finish the tint.

    Congratulations - enjoy the new C-Max!

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  • rldawsonrldawson Member Posts: 31
    Can I please get numbers for a 2016 C-Max Energi in VA - 36/12 - Looks like they have $11,007 in customer cash, any other incentives/conquest?

    Thanks,
    Rob
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,282
    rldawson said:

    Can I please get numbers for a 2016 C-Max Energi in VA - 36/12 - Looks like they have $11,007 in customer cash, any other incentives/conquest?

    Thanks,
    Rob

    42% and .25%. I show $9757 in lease cash. I don't have any other incentive information.

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  • roadrageeroadragee Member Posts: 138
    Can you please provide RV & MF for 2016 C-Max Energi - 36/10k in CA? Thanks
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,282
    roadragee said:

    Can you please provide RV & MF for 2016 C-Max Energi - 36/10k in CA? Thanks

    43% and .25%. $9757 lease cash.

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  • roadrageeroadragee Member Posts: 138
    Michaell said:



    43% and .25%. $9757 lease cash.

    Thanks! 0.25% is APR, correct? MF would be 0.0001?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,282
    roadragee said:

    Michaell said:



    43% and .25%. $9757 lease cash.

    Thanks! 0.25% is APR, correct? MF would be 0.0001?
    Correct.

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  • roadrageeroadragee Member Posts: 138
    edited May 2016
    Michaell said:


    Correct.

    Great. Thx
  • gg014gg014 Member Posts: 13
    Hello! Just wanted to check if this is a good deal here in VA for a 36 months/10,500 mi lease:

    2016 C-Max Energi + 302A Package + Fixed Glass Roof (MSRP is 36,155, I think)

    Around $11,257 in rebates, 0 cap cost reduction. I was quoted $325/month, which includes VA car tax of approximately $35 per month, tag, title, etc. It feels like a good deal, just wanted to confirm. Thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 237,109
    gg014 said:

    Hello! Just wanted to check if this is a good deal here in VA for a 36 months/10,500 mi lease:

    2016 C-Max Energi + 302A Package + Fixed Glass Roof (MSRP is 36,155, I think)

    Around $11,257 in rebates, 0 cap cost reduction. I was quoted $325/month, which includes VA car tax of approximately $35 per month, tag, title, etc. It feels like a good deal, just wanted to confirm. Thanks!

    Need to know the CAP cost. Assuming you negotiated a discount besides the rebates?

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  • gg014gg014 Member Posts: 13
    kyfdx, I believe the final cap cost would be:

    2016 C-Max Energi + 302A + Glass Roof: $24,440
    2016 C-Max Energi no additional packages: $21,400

    Thanks!
  • gg014gg014 Member Posts: 13
    gg014 said:

    kyfdx, I believe the final cap cost would be:

    2016 C-Max Energi + 302A + Glass Roof: $24,440
    2016 C-Max Energi no additional packages: $21,400

    Thanks!

    Correction, for the Energi+302A+Roof, the cap cost quoted by the dealer is $24,116. Thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 237,109
    gg014 said:

    gg014 said:

    kyfdx, I believe the final cap cost would be:

    2016 C-Max Energi + 302A + Glass Roof: $24,440
    2016 C-Max Energi no additional packages: $21,400

    Thanks!

    Correction, for the Energi+302A+Roof, the cap cost quoted by the dealer is $24,116. Thanks!
    0.50% APR and 43% residual.

    With those numbers, I get $247/mo.+tax.

    Of course, I don't know what else might be added to the CAP cost (dealer fee, etc).
    I agree that VA tax should be around $35-$40 per month.

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  • gg014gg014 Member Posts: 13
    kyfdx said:

    gg014 said:

    gg014 said:

    kyfdx, I believe the final cap cost would be:

    2016 C-Max Energi + 302A + Glass Roof: $24,440
    2016 C-Max Energi no additional packages: $21,400

    Thanks!

    Correction, for the Energi+302A+Roof, the cap cost quoted by the dealer is $24,116. Thanks!
    0.50% APR and 43% residual.

    With those numbers, I get $247/mo.+tax.

    Of course, I don't know what else might be added to the CAP cost (dealer fee, etc).
    I agree that VA tax should be around $35-$40 per month.
    Thanks, how does the 0.5% APR get translated to money factor in Ford leases?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 237,109
    gg014 said:

    kyfdx said:

    gg014 said:

    gg014 said:

    kyfdx, I believe the final cap cost would be:

    2016 C-Max Energi + 302A + Glass Roof: $24,440
    2016 C-Max Energi no additional packages: $21,400

    Thanks!

    Correction, for the Energi+302A+Roof, the cap cost quoted by the dealer is $24,116. Thanks!
    0.50% APR and 43% residual.

    With those numbers, I get $247/mo.+tax.

    Of course, I don't know what else might be added to the CAP cost (dealer fee, etc).
    I agree that VA tax should be around $35-$40 per month.
    Thanks, how does the 0.5% APR get translated to money factor in Ford leases?
    Divide APRs by 2400, and you get an approximate money factor

    .00021, in this case.

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  • roadrageeroadragee Member Posts: 138
    Hi,

    Are June numbers same as last month?

    I have 43% Residual MF 0.0001 for 36/10.5k

    Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,282
    roadragee said:

    Hi,

    Are June numbers same as last month?

    I have 43% Residual MF 0.0001 for 36/10.5k

    Thanks!

    Those numbers are still correct.

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  • KeerockKeerock Member Posts: 25
    Hi,

    Would you have the numbers to 24/13.5 and 24/15 here in Connecticut? I am getting some good number from my dealer but the quote is based on a money factor of .0002

    Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,282
    Keerock said:

    Hi,

    Would you have the numbers to 24/13.5 and 24/15 here in Connecticut? I am getting some good number from my dealer but the quote is based on a money factor of .0002

    Thanks!

    C-Max SE or SEL or C-Max Energi?

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  • KeerockKeerock Member Posts: 25
    Oops. Sorry. C-Max Energi!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,282
    Keerock said:

    Hi,

    Would you have the numbers to 24/13.5 and 24/15 here in Connecticut? I am getting some good number from my dealer but the quote is based on a money factor of .0002

    Thanks!

    Keerock said:

    Oops. Sorry. C-Max Energi!

    50% / 49% and .50% (which translates to a MF of .00021).

    $10,257 lease cash.

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  • brucepsmithbrucepsmith Member Posts: 10
    2016 C-Max Hybrid SEL. 36/12K lease Minnesota. Money factor & residual please, any lease cash incentives also please.
    Thanks
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 237,109

    2016 C-Max Hybrid SEL. 36/12K lease Minnesota. Money factor & residual please, any lease cash incentives also please.
    Thanks

    0.50% APR and 48% residual. $4500 lease cash.

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  • roadrageeroadragee Member Posts: 138
    Can you please provide RV & MF for 2016 C-Max Energi - 36/10k in CA for July and on if available already?. Thanks
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 237,109
    roadragee said:

    Can you please provide RV & MF for 2016 C-Max Energi - 36/10k in CA for July and on if available already?. Thanks

    Sorry, but we don't have the new Ford program, yet.

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  • roadrageeroadragee Member Posts: 138
    kyfdx said:



    Sorry, but we don't have the new Ford program, yet.

    Thanks for checking. When it becomes available, please post residual for both 10.5k/yr and 12k/yr along with MF. Thanks!!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 237,109
    roadragee said:

    Can you please provide RV & MF for 2016 C-Max Energi - 36/10k in CA for July and on if available already?. Thanks

    0.50% APR and 39%/38% residual for 10K/12K, 36 months.

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  • roadrageeroadragee Member Posts: 138
    Ouch! Both MF and residuals are worse than before! 0.25% higher and 4% drop in residual. Small Increase in RCL cash doesn't really offset the worse MF and RV. 

    Thanks for the info. 
  • shk1975shk1975 Member Posts: 1
    I'm looking to lease a 2016 cmax. With the above residuals at 38% is it even worth leasing? Also on the MF, do you always multiply by 2400? What about with a 3 yr lease?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,282
    shk1975 said:

    I'm looking to lease a 2016 cmax. With the above residuals at 38% is it even worth leasing? Also on the MF, do you always multiply by 2400? What about with a 3 yr lease?

    There is a large lease incentive to offset the poor residual. Thought we don't know what it is with the new document format from Ford.

    Ford expresses their MF as an APR; divide by 2400 to get the decimal value to use in a calculator.

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  • n765321n765321 Member Posts: 6
    Southeast Michigan, Energi SEL with default option, residual for 15k/18k for 36/39 months.
    I would like to know incentives/residuals/MF. I was told 0.33 for residual for 15k 36 months.. even if there's huge incentive, residual is so poor. I just want to confirm this residual is correct...
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 237,109
    n765321 said:

    Southeast Michigan, Energi SEL with default option, residual for 15k/18k for 36/39 months.
    I would like to know incentives/residuals/MF. I was told 0.33 for residual for 15k 36 months.. even if there's huge incentive, residual is so poor. I just want to confirm this residual is correct...

    0.75% APR and 33% residual for 36/15
    $11,007 lease cash
    Subtract 2% for 18K/yr
    Subtract 2% for 39 months

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