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  • jbrotherjbrother Posts: 31
    I am considering buying a 95 pathfinder from a used car lot. They are asking 5900. It is a 4x4 se with auto. mileage is 165,000. Can anyone give me some suggestions on what to look for potential mechanical problems with this vehicle, considering age and mileage. Do these vehicles usually last a lot past this high mileage? What about the price? The salesman says that it is leaking a bit of oil and needs a new oil pan gasket, and also needs a couple new front end parts. Any advice??? Thank you very much!
  • geoffdgtigeoffdgti Posts: 83
    I've just kicked off shopping for a replacement SUV. I'm not quite sure if the Pathfinder meets my requirements or if I'm overlooking any brands. I'd like some opinions to save me from huge American hulks before I kill again...

    I currently drive a 1998 Mercury Mountaineer V8 AWD variant of the Ford Exploder. It goes off extended warranty in 12 months and there's no way I'd own it if I have to pay the constant stream of repair bills myself. I've also owned a 2 door 1992 Mazda Navajo variant of the Exploder and an '87 S-10 Blazer. I buy cars new and usually drive them until they need to get crushed into cubes. The Mountaineer is so unreliable that I commute in a VW GTI. A replacement SUV would likely only see about 15,000 miles per year.

    I have 5,000 pounds plus-or-minus of boat, fuel, and trailer to tow. Twin-axle braked trailer. I don't see hills when towing the boat but it often goes on 100+ mile trips.

    I see floorboard-deep mud in the spring but I haven't taken an SUV off-road in years. The Mountaineer has floorboards, a long wheelbase, and no low range. Who am I kiddin'?

    I'm 6'3" and have headroom and legroom issues in many cars. A telescoping and tilting steering wheel is an important feature.

    In the winter, I ski every weekend. I understand how to drive a heavy SUV in the snow. (Go down hills and corners like Grandma, use the transmission for speed control, and never touch the brakes.) I tend to keep half the split bench down so I can carry skis inside the truck. I require 6 feet on the diagonal for the skis.

    I drive 2 miles in skiboots from my parking spot to the ski resort. I have a size 12 foot.

    I'm a chronic speeder. The truck has to have reasonable manners at 80 mph.

    I'm thinking a Pathfinder LE would probably work for me if it can really tow 5,000 pounds. Are there any pitfalls I should be aware of?
  • normp1normp1 Posts: 25
    I live in the interior in a small city named Merritt. I assume that you have or are looking for a pathfinder yourself ? I plan on having a thorough look and a test drive tomorrow in Kamloops.
    I'll let you know my impressions. If you have one let me know all the pros and cons Thanks
  • I live next to you in Kamloops and own a 2001 LE. I love the vehicle and have had no problems whatsoever but last summer I towed a 3800 lb trailer to Sheridan Lake in the central Cariboo and must say that the Pathfinder struggles with the weight up some of the steep grades that we live within. You must use air springs and have good trailer brakes for stopping but that won't get you up the grades any faster. Overall I love my vehicle and would recommend it to anyone. A
    question for anyone, what is the definitive concerning AWD vs. 2WD? I usually leave in AWD through the winter months and 2WD in the spring and summer. Is there really extra wear on the vehicle due to leaving it in AWD? I was lead to believe that the system is unintrusive and does not come into play or cause any wear unless needed. Please let me know, sorry for the long post.
  • I just picked up my 02 SE 4x4 this past week. A couple of my concerns were similar to yours, but I found they were nothing to worry about.
    After several test drives, I pretty much settled on the PF. The ride was smoother than any other and the handling superior.
    I had read that the room for taller folks was something to be desired, especially with the sunroof. I'm 6'1 and my roommate is 6'4, and neither have difficulty with the headroom issue or the steering wheel. Plenty to spare.
    Behavior at 80 mph is respectful. That's the average speed in these parts on the beltline. Recently the winds have been way up and the truck hasn't been fazed.
    Skis should do fine. The rack above is always another place to think about. The SE rack is pretty tough. I'm not familiar with the LE rack, although its rating is 100 lbs.
    Good luck on your search. I don't think you'll be disappointed if you decide on a PF.

    -andy
  • toyotas1toyotas1 Posts: 134
    I have the inside scoop on the 2003 Pathfinder. It will be shown at the NY Auto Show next month, under the name Morano.
  • Hey Folks..

    Got the 02 SE. Nissan decided to change the rack on this one to something more akin to the XTerra style rather than the one that's found on the LE (and all models prior, regardless of trim). Does anyone know of a rack manufacturer (i.e. Thule, Yakima) who makes adapters for their gear that fit this setup? I have a touring kayak that would be no problem throwing up there, but the bike is a different story.

    Regards,
    -andy
  • meca2meca2 Posts: 284
    The rack system for the PF is designed and built
    by Yakima.
  • woodyr1woodyr1 Posts: 142
    I live in the Cariboo and purchased my 2001 XE Pathfinder in Kamloops at River City Nissan. My rig will be one year old in a few days. I purchased from Mr. Davidson, and feel that I got a good deal. Cool 3 Canadians in the same general area!

    Woody (Rick B)
  • I just purchased a 2002 LE, Chrome Silver, leather package, microfilter, body side moldings and mats. Very happy with the truck overall, except for the lousy gas mileage. I have noticed some people on the board using the term AWD. I am assuming they mean the AUTO mode and not true all wheel drive. To my understanding AUTO mode functions in 2WD until slip is detected, then it varies torque to the front and rear wheels, but the power is only routed to two wheels, one in front and one in the rear. Is this right or is it really AWD in Auto mode? I got the Weatheflectors from MacNeilI noticed the set for the rear windows has a peel off adhesive backing strip, but the instructions don't mention anything about how to install them useing this adhesive. Can anyone help with this?
  • toyotas1toyotas1 Posts: 134
    Will slot in UNDER the Path/Xterra and compete with the CR-V and Rav4......
  • cj724cj724 Posts: 13
    The new Murano. I don't think that this is the new 2003 Pathfinder. Checkout link


    http://www.nissandriven.com/vehicles/FutureVehicleDetails/1,9437,22792,00.html

  • dailykdailyk Posts: 3
    In Cleveland, Ohio there is a Nissan subsidized lease offer for the SE, details are:

    ($325 per mo/39 mo - $1975 at Signing - includes 1st payment .15 per mi over 12,000 mi(Req's Popular Pkg)

    My questions:
    1)Edmunds incentive listing shows the cap cost as $25,898, and an acqusition fee of $450. Would this fee be added to the cap cost and to my $325 payment?
    2) I'd like to add the sunroof pkg, invoice is $953 for this option. Can you give me an idea of how much this might add on per month? I've gotten fuzzy answers from dealers.
    3) Do the Nissan leases usually cover gap insurance or does that vary?
    4) When it's National deal like this, is there any hope of negotiating a lesser down payment?
    5) Is this such a great deal that I should just take it and run? Deal expires 3/4.

    Thanks much!
    K
  • pf01pf01 Posts: 35
    Last month, when I had my Pathfinder served in a Nissan dealer, the service manager mentioned that the Pathfinder would not be replaced next year, instead, Nissan would get an Altima-based SUV. I am not sure if this is true, because Infiniti will definitely produce the FX45, which is based on Altima(according to Nissannews.com), and it is supposed to be unique to Infiniti. Nissan's new factory in Mississippi(?) will be ready early next year, and by that time many things are possible, including a full-size replacement of the Pathfinder.
  • speedgalspeedgal Posts: 7
    Hey Folks,

    I have a '92 Pathfinder SE. It's a great car - over 250K miles and going strong. I'm a big fan of the PF. But...

    I'm having an issue with the dealer where I purchased the car. At the time I bought, I paid about $300 for additional rustproofing treatment. This treatment came with a lifetime warrantee against body rust-through, supposedly good for as long as I own the car. However, now that I have a rusted-through spot on the rocker panel, the dealer is refusing to honor the warrantee.

    The dealer claims that the warrantee is not valid because they haven't inspected the car every 12 months, as required by the fine print in the warrantee. But, the fine print also states that the dealer must notify me by mail whenever this inspection was due. I never received any such notification. It's not as if I would've blown off the inspection had I been notified - I work about 3 miles from the dealership.

    I feel this is fraud, and am planning on taking legal action. I've spoken with the sales manager at another Nissan dealer, and he thinks I've got a good case. I'd like to know if anybody else has experienced something similar with Nissan, and how they resolved it. Thanks.
  • normp1normp1 Posts: 25
    Thanks for the posts. I test drove a chilkoot edition pathfinder at Riverside Nissan in Kamloops today with a buddy. Very impressed overall with the vehcile as well as the salesman who was very helpful and low key. To answer you question in regards to the 2wd vs allmode, I asked the salesman myself if you could leave it in this mode all the time in the winter. He responded yes however in allmode (4wd) the vehicle starts in 4 wheel drive at all times then shifts back to 2wd if it isn't slippery. Hence your gas mileage will suffer a bit. I also have heard that the brakes are not great while towing. I have a 17ft. ski boat that weighs about 3000 lbs including the trailer. It doesn't have trailer brakes as it is just under the magical weight requiring them. It's a single axle fourwinns trailer and has a very light tongue weight. I'm hoping to get away with towing the boat with the Pathfinder without having to do any major additions. I have an R.V. which I usually tow with for camping so the Pathfinder would only be used to tow up to Shuswap several times in the summer. Give me your thoughts ? Also a question. I asked about the need for premium fuel and the salesman stated that it is recommended for optimum performance but that you won't damage the vehicle by using regular.
  • meca2meca2 Posts: 284
    When AWD is selected an oil pump is activated in the transfer case. Only when the rear axle speed sensors detect rear wheel slipage torque is applied to the front axle.
  • woodyr1woodyr1 Posts: 142
    Hi:

    You will feel that you have tamed the Coquihalla Hwy with that 240 hp engine. I have a Boler trailer, which weights about 1300 pounds loaded. My automatic version is rated to tow 5000 lbs., and my trailer does not have brakes. I have rarely noticed the trailers presence, and leave the air conditioner on, and cruise control in many instances. My 2001 is much more responsive than my 95 Pathfinder. I have never towed anything heavier than my Boler, but feel the torque and horsepower could handle a lot more than I have given it.

    I use premium gas, (91 octane), as that is recommended by the manufacturer. A salesman told me they always use mid-grade, but that is 89 octane. I heard that Kamloops has the cheapest gas prices in Canada at this moment. You will find many threads on fuel recommendations for the 01-02 Pathfinder by using the search function.

    Best of luck, you will find the Chilkoot a well-optioned package.

    Woody
  • gkatz1gkatz1 Posts: 296
    Looks like a crossover type vehicle (aka Matrix). Definitely not the new Pathfinder.
  • ppnffppnff Posts: 65
    The system on the QX4/Pathfinder is not a true all-wheel drive system. It really is a part-time four wheel drive system that is normally in rear wheel drive and switches to send power to the front wheel when slip is detected. A true all wheel drive system will generally split the power between the front and back, like the Audi Quattro system which splits it 50/50 front/rear.
  • toyotas1toyotas1 Posts: 134
    Remember, the Pathfinder is a unibody design! And it would be rather DUMB to have 3 $20-30k SUV in your lineup, yes? Not that Nissan hasn't made some REALLY bonehead moves......but this HAS to either replace the Pathfinder, or give Nissan a player against the CRV/Rav4. This WOULD be a smart move by Nissan, so they probably won't do it. I say it is a 'Finder replacement, since they use the words ROOMY and REFINED when referring to it.
  • pathstarpathstar Posts: 201
    My experience is as follows:

    Auto mode - I only use when there is a possibility of tire slippage - my mileage will suffer a bit (10 to 20%) and there will be some extra wear and tear when in Auto mode. There will also be disconcerting surges and thumps when I stop and put it in "park" or turn off the engine (as the system disengages).

    Towing a heavy trailer (greater than 1500 lbs) - I disable the fourth gear with the button on the side of the shifter. With a manual transmission, I would not use fifth gear on hilly terrain. I let the engine rev. - it's quite happy even at 4000 RPM.
  • xplorx4xplorx4 Posts: 621
    toyotas1-

    It may be true that the Pathfinder has a unibody design, but remember it also has a solid rear axle, part-time 4x4 with a low range transfer case, and can tow 5000 lbs. FYI- the Jeep Grand Cherokee is ALSO unibody, but they introduced the Liberty... and it seems to be selling...

    It would NOT be rather dumb for Nissan to have 3 SUVs in their lineup. Take a look at Toyota's lineup:
    1) Rav4
    2) 4Runner
    3) Highlander
    4) Land Cruiser

    In fact, Nissan would be dumb to replace the Pathfinder with a mini-ute! Instead it makes sense to add a smaller SUV to their lineup. For many buyers, the Xterra is still too large and more vehicle than they need. In my opinion, the Xterra fits a niche market, and cannot compare to the Ford Escape, Honda CR-V, Toyota Rav4, or any of the other 4-wheel independent suspension FWD-based SUVs. Nissan needs something to satisfy those buyers. If Nissan DOES replace the Pathfinder, it should be with something like the Patrol, which is currently only available overseas.
  • alwaysfordsalwaysfords Posts: 210
    You've inhertited toyotas1's capitalization. VERY annoying.
  • brian60brian60 Posts: 76
    Is there still going to be an XTRail mini-ute, or is that what the Murano is? By my count, that means that Nissan is going to have at least four SUVs in their lineup within the next 1-1.5 years (smallest to largest):

    1. Murano (XTrail?)
    2. XTerra
    3. Pathfinder (TrailBlazer size - next redesign)
    4. Full-sized model

    Cool.
  • serpico1serpico1 Posts: 30
    ok people, i want to join you in owning a PF..looking at PF LE AWD from montreal dealer..quoted 41,900..great price..which is like 27,800 us$..not bad at all..

    but here is where i need help..the dealer offered to deliver my PF to NYC (to a custom house for an extra $ 850 or so, i pay no PST or GSt tax..the 2.5 at the border is a wash..all i pay is my state tax of 8% in New york..

    has anyone done this before..should i be weary? what if an XE version shows up? what is the truck has dings in it when it arrives...should i go pick it up in montreal..only 6 hr drive? or should i be pampered and have it delivered? what would you do?

    any insights please...would be great..

    eric
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 40,194
    Heh, I'd pamper myself and enjoy Montreal and its restaurants for a few days on my savings :-)

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  • lofquistlofquist Posts: 281
    serpico1,
    Of the now 70 people who've gone to Canada to buy I know of only one who had it shipped and that was from Montreal also. From the note he sent me it ended up being less than perfect. It took three weeks to arrive and then he still had to go sixty miles to pick it up. Also the paperwork had problems and some "extra" broker charges showed up. But of course your situation might be different.

    My opinion (did you ask for it?).... Take a cheapo flight up to Toronto and you will have your new Path in one day. Lots of people from NYC have done this. If you want the name of the manager at the dealer we all have used, just drop me an email. I also have lots of info.

    Why not Montreal? Because Quebec won't refund the provincial sales taxes like Ontario will. Toronto is not that much further and it's all interstate too.

    -Jon
  • lycurguslycurgus Posts: 4
    I want to replace the facory fog light bulbs on my 01' Pathfinder with Xenon bulbs. Can anyone tell me a good brand and model number to buy? I am not even sure if the electrical system could handle the Xenon bulbs.
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