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Steve
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ok. I guess the sleazy, corrupt people really do it,...
Tarik
Drew, thanks for the detailed explanation for the bug deflector. I'm thinking of getting one soon, found a couple of chips on the hood not to mention all those bug remains.
I also thought that since the Yakima's are rounded they would be more aerodynamic than the thule but i guess not. I guess, i'll have to shell out some $$ for the hitch and the hitch mounted racks.
Thanks again guys.
CAUTION, this powerfull SUV in reverse can smash people. The poor little girl was not warned to the potential danger of this brute, therefore how could she control this monster, she was not prepared. We find MB liable for for X millions.
You think I am joking, I have seen it too many times. Remember McDonalds, hot coffee, burnt lap, three million, or Jack Daniels and the woman that drank all the way to labor, she claimed she did not know it was bad for her or her baby, JD was found liable for not warning her, now liquor has a warning, Do not drink if you are pregnant. Give me a break.
Thanks for comments.
I've been lurking on this board for awhile while trying to decide between a C320 or an ML series. I was pretty set on the C until I had my 3 kids with me at the dealer and realized the back seat was just too tight ( 2 are still in car seats). I did'nt think this was going to be a big problem as we have an Expedition as our main family car, the additional car for the weekends. So, I've decided on an ML.
I'm pretty set on waiting on a 2002 ML320, however I would guess that I could get a similar price on a 2001 430 when the 2002's arrive. What do you think? I might do some possible towing of 2 jet skis. How big of a power difference is there between the models? Are there any other items that make the 430 superior?
Thanks
keith
Guy went to Jail...he claim same stupid story as this female party person.
She was apparently refused entrance and was MAD or on something.
ML not to be blamed.
All this in case this info is of any use for you. The ML 430 will give better gas mileage than the expedition, I know from first hand observation since my son's fiancee had one.
From lurking here at Edmmunds it seem like the ML320 rides smoother than a 430 and gives better gas milieage, although for a powerfull V8 and heavy vehicle the Ml does quite well with the fuel.
Off the line, the ML320 and ML430 don't feel much different because the ML430's rear end ratio is tuned for fuel economy. However, as you build up speed and at highway speeds while passing, the ML430 will have more "legs" to stretch. You should test drive both to see which you prefer. In my experience, in typical around town driving, the power differences are not as extreme as you may think. The ML55 is a completely different story though ;-)
Remember that the ML430s are more rare than the ML320s, so you may not be able to find a '01 model if you wait too long, especially in the exterior colour/interior colour that you want. The deals are pretty much as good as they will get right now already.
What you will give up with the ML430 is some ride comfort because of the lower sidewall tires giving you less cushioning. There will be a slight improvement in handling though. Fuel economy differences between the two are about 1-3 mpg.
Hope this helps!
Also, the 2002 ML320 will have 17" wheels which means the same sidewall thickness as the ML430/ML500.
applehubby:
Some folks on the M-Class mailing list have had a few experiences where someone had slammed a car door into their side steps. This normally won't work with rear doors though. So, the answer is: yes, sometimes. You should get them to throw the steps in for free. You can also buy them at $400 from clairparts.com in Boston and get the service department to install them if you can't do it yourself. I'd consider the stainless steel ones for $600 (in the accessory catalog) though since the other side steps will rust faster.
That is why Mercedes builds the A frames of forged aluminun, to reduce the unsprung weigth.
Then she leaves the scence of the accident, the attorney leaves out this crimminal ACT.
Let her go to Jail, they say 25 years...she's a trouble.
Believe me, I live here, this may go someplace. Expect MB to be dragged into the civil suit for sure.
Just my opinion
Jamie
It's because of the stupid general public nowadays that I fear the lawyer may actually convince a screwed up NY jury that that spoiled brat was incompetent instead of being a rich spoiled brat who needs a swift kick where the sun don't shine (reference to 70s show, but we can't put those words in this forum)-:
Before this is all over MB is going to sit in the acussed chair.
Unfortunately those who sit on those jury rooms leave a lot to be desired as far as intelligence and knowledge concerns, it does not take a lot of verbatism and legalese to confuse those feeble minds, and presto, the doubt is in, the law says beyond reasonable doubt. Case closed.
The real injustice is that the very inocent is going to have to pay and the guilty will be absolved and probably collect too.
What a rotten world.
Maybe the next time we rear-end someone we should sue MB too for making such a "powerful" vehicle. These lawsuits have become a travesty. And no judge is brave enough to throw these lawsuits out?
http://www.freep.com/business/gmfire7_20000107.htm
One of the good thing about MB being run by engineers was that they didn't skimp on safety even in the early days. There were problems with the engineers running the company, but that's for another time.
Drew
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If that is the case anything can be rationalized and argued. Only the intelligent and educated can stay focus and separate the wheat from the chaff.
I thought the basic principle of justice was to punish the guilty, no more no less.
I think that they should sue the people for damage to the ML55 and the distraught to the lady.
Robert
The system was never intended to operate the way is operating today, if we go to the past most of this stuff would be called ABSURD.
Endless academic dicussions, theories, hypothesis, detract from the main goal which is to get to the point.
My view
luckliy (in an attempt to sway the conversation back on topic) on the 2002 Parkronic will be available as an option. to assist in situations such as this...
Robert
Lizzie Grubman is the type of person that decent, average folks hate. Snob personified. Thinks she is god's gift to the world. The "white trash" comment is a dead giveaway, make yourself feel better by putting down others.
If her lawyer somehow gets away with blaming the vehicle for this one, I'm turning in my Human Race club card.
WRT to Parktronic, it would have been worse! Why? Becuase the radar would have helped her zero in on more folks 8-P
I am sorry, for almost two years I have been talking about ML's from every angle, while I rant about this incident I will charge my batteries for some more ML talk.
Anyone with any tips to share about hood covers. I ordered an upper mask for my ML320 and now am considering the lower mask also. Is the lower mask a bother when washing ?
Thanks
Also are ML being dicounted because of 02 model by how much? and would it be worth waiting?
One more favor I have a 95 C280MB, VERY LOW miles what is the best way to sell it any websites?. If I sell it on my own I might get a little more than what dealers will pay...If not big differnce between ML 320 01 and 02 I might get the 01 ML 320 ....Any advice would be greatly appreciated. THANK YOU
therre will be auto air, minor styling cue updates. intergrated fog lamps, window curtain air bags(not sure if front only), 17in wheels tires std on ML320 now..there other enhancements as well..I have no idea on pricing...
http://www.mercedes.com/e/cars/m-class/data_ml270.htm
try that website for pics and info
Anyone know what the current incentives are for the ML's...