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Learned long ago to stay stock on everything wheel and tire related. Knowing that the TSI model I got and the TDI had 17" wheels on them, knew we could do the swap and no one at VW said it was not doable. They definitely will fix this issue!
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2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
Free air.
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Added to my wishlist.
So is replacing the tire the best option? I was really advised against this since the tread is good.
P.S: link to original post: http://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/comment/5088257#Comment_5088257
The Sandman
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
piece of the suspension was damaged leading to the cupping.
I would have moved it front or back and seen where it was the quietest, tried higher or lower air pressures, and driven it to see if it gradually smoothed out.
Or I would look to replacing the tires in pairs on the front or back axles to get rid of the damaged tire.
Since shreyasrajan has leaking air, possibly from the bead, slowly lowering the pressure, I'd want the tire
store to carefully check the rim for being out-of-round or corroded. I don't know that I'd replace the tire.
If the tires are 4-5 years old, the rubber may have aged and hardened making the slight cupping more noticeable. I had Michelins that were 6 years or so and thought I had a bad hub bearing. Shadetree neighbor
rode in car, jumped out and ran his hand over the tire and felt the uneven tread due to slight cupping. Hard tread plus cupping equalled noise. He used to manage a tire store at an early point in his automotive work life.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
And, yes, it has been known that cupping can affect vibration, after all, noise is a higher frequency vibration.
Lastly, it is pretty common for folks to use "cupping" to describe wear patterns that are caused by alignment. Technically "cupping" describes a type of wear caused by an out of balance tire or a bad shock, but hardly anyone uses it strictly to describe that condition alone.
the really strange part is when I did a test run with my spare, there was no noise!
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It is possible there is more than one tire that was making the noise.
It is also possible that the tire/wheel is vibrating slightly and causing something in the vehicle to vibrate - so changing the tire was not the total solution to the problem.
Well if the spare eliminated the noise, then there you go---you have a tire or balance problem, or, as you say, a wheel issue.
then there's the issue of under and over inflation, which has its own set of wear patterns.
Tricky to read, yes and sometimes the wear patterns are not so definite as to make a solid conclusion.
Heel and Toe Wear is when the wear on a tread element is low to high (leading edge to trailing edge) and is caused by applying torque to a tire for a long period of time - drive tires. It's a natural consequence of using a tire to propel the vehicle forward.
When a tread element (especially a lug) enters the footprint, it is deflected backwards, which wears the leading edge. As time goes on, this wear progresses along the tread element.
Too much toe in on the vehicle will aggravate the condition - as will under-inflation and insufficient tire rotation. Aggressive tread patterns are more prone to this condition.
The fix is to rotate the tires and live with the noise and vibration until the wear pattern changes - which may take a while.
The difference between Heel and Toe Wear, and Feather Edge Wear is the cause - and there is a slight difference in appearance. Unfortunately, usually there are multiple problems and distinguishing between the 2 types of wear is kind of a moot point.
On the other hand, a bad shock can cause cupping wear, because the shock is damping out the unrestrained oscillation tendency of the spring.
For some of the cars that suffer this wear choosing a tire that doesn't have lugs or sipping on the edges of the tread can help. We use a rectangular eraser to demonstrate what the tire lugs do while driving. Stand it up on end and then press down while leaning it slightly and you will see it deform just like the tire does. Now if you slide it you'll easily see that the wear is much faster on the loaded edge.
Some of them, you just can't convince, otherwise.
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If I'm leave for a trip, I often put tires up nearer 35 front and 33 rear. 225x60x16 tires.
For the '14 Malibu with 33 as recommended pressure on Goodyear LS2, I used 35 front
and 33 rear. Car is lighter in rear and didn't have much baggage on the last trip so it was
relatively light.
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2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2020 C43; 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i; 2018 330i xDrive
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2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
The tires are Michelin Destiny tires. The store said if there's no unusual wear showing, they keep the tires rotating the same direction.
What do the folks here say?
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
All-season tires, non-staggered, on FWD vehicles? I think you can do just about whatever you want, when it comes to rotation. (but, even then.. I only went front to back.. lol)
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I get 40k to 50k out of each set of UHP all season tires, so that rotation pattern works for me.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2020 C43; 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i; 2018 330i xDrive
On a FWD, the front tires wear about 2 1/2 times faster than the rears. On a RWD, the fronts wear the shoulders, while the rears wear the center.
Cross rotating is nice in that you can eliminate the side to side differences, but those differences are small compared to what happens front to rear.
My last two sets of tires on our last minivan and an Outback were Nokians WRG2s. Really liked them, but they are hard to find. And they may be overkill for our arid climate.
Continental TrueContacts have been recommended.
These 80 to 90,000 mile warranties (800 Tread Wear) kind of bug me. I want a quiet ride and don't want to ride around on hard tires when the van isn't likely to be driven more than another 30,000 miles, if that.
Got a Costco card but the closest store is an hour away and I'd rather just get something local. I'm not going to rotate them much anyway....
Dunno, should I look for another 500 AA tire instead of an 800 AB?
The 500 tread wear Primacy's are the first set of Michelins I've liked in forever. The reviews aren't great at TireRack - figures.