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-Moonroof whistle above 75mph, 2 different dealerships have tried to fix it 4 times: still whistles
-Center console creak: fixed twice: still creaks
-O2 sensor goes out: fixed; needed a new sensor
-Glove compartment creak: fixed
-passenger and driver front door creaking and clanking: fixed 3 times; still creaks on both sides
-Uneven tire wear due to the negative camber: result uneven tires
In terms of an investment my VW has performed very poorly, my case might be an isolated incident, but I am not taking any more chances with it. I have learned my lesson and I am now in the market for a Honda. Take my experience as what its worth if you are deciding to purchase a VW Jetta.
My 97 Toyota was full of problems at the very end of a 4 year lease. The list included:
-3 new sets of tires due to uneven wear
-2 batteries
-front struts wore out
-worn valve stem seals which caused the car to blow white smoke at all times (started at 46k miles)
-my mechanic said the engine was sludged
-at the last day of the lease car was towed away cause it wouldn't even start.
So you see even the mighty Japanese Toyota have their share of problems.
- Keith
LBnova
I have owned my Tulley VW (NH) 2000 Jetta for approx. 1 yr/39,000 highway miles. Here are the problems I have experienced...
* The car burns oil rapidly between oil changes and requires maintenance
* My drivers side window fell into the door the other deal and after the secretary told me there was nothing they could do today (mind you, it was raining and I had a 1 hr commute home) I had the manager “help”...I was charged $200.
* The sunroof is broken (its $85 just for VW to look at it)
* Now the check engine light is on (I'm told just to check this there is a $68 charge)
Please note that all of these problems are not due to misuse of the car...at one time I ran a car detailing business and I treat the car very, very well and have been disheartened by its problems.
VW service is near horrible and the workers are very unsypathethic to any problems. Since its not one problem that recurs over and over I don’t qualify for the lemon-law…a loophole if you ask me.
Feel free to ask me any questions.
We decided to do a road trip to Florida see my parents, by the time we got there we put 1600 miles on the car. The next morning the car would not start??! I saying to myself that this is impossible, I figured out that it had to be the fuel pump. The roadside assistance was great they pick up the car, the dealer called and told us the fuel pump died. They didn't have any in stock so we had to wait two days. The car was fixed but our faith in the car wasn't! On the way back, as we passed through Virginia one of the plastic shield under the mid section of the car came loose, so we brought it in for service in Virginia. There were no further problems until tonight 6/20/2001,10:00PM, My wife and I and a friend were in the car talking, the car was Idling, it dies suddenly??!!!#$^%
I try starting it again it wont start. I wait a little bit then it starts but barely, I repeatedly press on the accelerator pedal but the response is not the same. I have concluded that as wonderful as the Jetta or any Volkswagen might be If their starter and fuel pumps are made poorly then the car is no longer reliable. This car is not worth it. My 91 civic I drove hard I worked it over and all I got back was better gas mileage and reliability. I no longer trust this Jetta to do my long trips by myself I'm afraid it will let me down in a bad place. Some one please tell me if this would be covered under the lemon law??
Thank you
(BTW, I love my Jetta, and have had no problems.)
newcar31, do you go to all the boards and post negative crap about cars you never owned like you do with the Jetta? I know you're disappointed you're driving rice instead of a car with personality, but stick to the Mazda board. See, as much as it would make you feel better, the fact is that most VWs are great cars. Very few are lemons. Mazda makes lemons too! In fact, you'll have to look long and hard before you find a group of owners as passionate, loyal and fanatical as VW owners. Theres a reason for that. These cars are well engineered, stylish, and a blast to drive.
Anyone know anything about this replacement part and when it might be released?
Other than the gear issue, i've been very happy with the car. This problem did not start happening until I had the car about 9 months. I have less than 9000 miles on the car.
Previous vehicles: 87 Toyota Corolla, 93 Nissan
Hardbody and 98 Mazda B3000.
I've been back to the vw dealership for scheduled servicing... and grease spot on the interior sunroof panel, driver's door adjustment,loose floor vent cover and broken rear seat catch device.
All repaired to my satisfaction. Slamming the rear seat into its upright lock position probably did the catch device in. I keep the catch device lifted now until I have the seat positioned upright and then release the "catch".
After a year and a half I put my Jetta behind that unbeatable Nissan in reliability during a comparable period of time, well ahead of that Mazda and sharing the middle with the Toyota.
day 2: Turbo out 2days at shop warranty
month 3: bad wiring harness 2 days at shop warnty
month 4: Cd player bad 1 day at shop warranty
month 6: plastic rails break off of seat rails
have not addressed this issue
month 8: drivers side seat height adjuster begins
to fail. Have not addressed.
month 12: clogged buypass valve in exhaust
2 days in shop NOT under warranty
due to mileage $200
month 12: all four tires down to tread wear
indicators (30K miles) $500
Third brake light dimmer than normal. Replaced at 5K service.
That's it.
-Jim
http://www.jettaownersclub.org
-Window went halfway up and back down again with one-touch. Dealer told me to get it right in so they could replace the regulator before the window crashed down. They smoothed out some weatherstripping while it was in. Same day delivery under warranty. Me happy with dealer.
Occasional rattle in sunroof cover.
That's it.
I think Jettas ARE a lot more fun to drive than most Japanese cars, and personally, I would put up with a few warranty glitches in order to have the driving qualities of a German car. But I can understand totally if some people are not willing to make this type of trade-off.
I have been skimming some of the posts in here for a friend who is interested in buying a Jetta.
I am not too familiar with the Jetta but is 2000 when the new body style came out. The reason I am asking this is because I have noticed a trend in german cars. They tend to have a lot more bugs in their first year than Japanese cars.
Are most of these problems covered that people are having covered by the warranty? and how long is the warranty for
Please excuse my ignorance in this.....
-Jim
So, it just serves notice that not every single Jetta owner gets to know their service department on a first name basis due to warranty issues.
Thanks
-Jim
http://www.jettaownersclub.org
Try buying on the Net too. Keeps you out of that showroom atmosphere and in your own environment. With all the tools we now have available, there is no reason that you cannot buy any car at your price in less than 90 minutes.
The warranty for 2002 will be 4yr/50K miles b2b and 5yr/60K powertrain. No free maintenance.
People concerned about the small items should like the new warranty.
ALSO, U can get the factory warr. @ a lower cost as long as U get it before 6mos/6000miles are on the new car. I just rolled 6K last week with 4.5 months since delivery. They put 5501 miles on my paperwork to make the lower cost stick. 60 mos starts now.
Civic -
Pros:
1. Cheaper base price, under $18k
2. More reliable and cheaper to maintain
3. Better gas efficiency
Cons:
1. Boring appearance and styling
2. Less fun and powerful to drive
3. Consumer complaints about declining quality (based on personal research finding, no real data)
Jetta -
Pros:
1. Distinguish style
2. Relatively affordable price, around $20k
3. More powerful and fun to drive
Cons:
1. Heard owner complaints about various problems, though most are minor, still discouraging
2. VW dealerships have bad reputation for service
3. Requires premium gas, lower gaas milleage
But basically I think your side by side evaluations are pretty good. If you don't buy my comments about the automatic, then I'd advise you to buy the car you feel best in, because affection will get you over the tough spots, whereas if you don't like what you bought, you will be very hard on the car when it fails you.
http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/roadtests/firstdrive/44875/article.html
No real mechanical problems so far. Just two early issues, for which I plan to visit the dealer soon.
First, there is an annoying sound - sort of a combination creak and rattle - that seems to be emanating from the steering column area on rougher roads and upon acceleration. The sound started at about 100 miles, so that's disappointing from a quality standpoint.
Second, the dealer-installed VW CD changer (trunk mounted) sporadically malfunctions, with a "CD error" message. If I change to another disk, the problem goes away.
Overall, the car is a delight to drive. If I can get these two problems fixed, and I don't have a lot of other problems down the road, I'll be a happy camper.