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  • csaket_csaket_ Member Posts: 43
    Michaell said:

    csaket_ said:

    Is there a lease calculator that can get the same numbers?
    The ones online and on edmunds do not seem to get the same numbers.

    I built my own ...

    http://www.edmunds.com/car-leasing/calculate-your-own-lease-payment.html
    Using your calculator, I am getting $515.68 per month.


    Sticker Price of the car  $ 50,210.00
    Options -
    = MSRP  $ 50,210.00
    x residual value percentage   59.00%
    = Residual value  $ 29,623.90
    Sale Price  $ 47,339.00
    Incentives  $ 4,500.00
    Invoice price of car minus incentives  $ 42,839.00
    Adds after sales price  $ 245.00
    Net Capitalized Cost  $ 43,084.00
    Tax percentage   6.25%
    Taxes  $ 2,692.75
    Acquisition Fee  $ 700.00
    Doc Fee  $ 150.00
    Title & License & Registration Fee  $ 187.25
    Adjusted Cap Cost  $ 46,814.00
    - Residual  $ (29,623.90)
    = Depreciation over 39 months  $ 17,190.10
    Depreciation divided by term in months ÷ 39
    = Monthly depreciation payment  $ 440.77
    Adjusted capitalized cost  $ 46,814.00
    + Plus the residual  $ 29,623.90
    =  $ 76,437.90
    x Money Factor 0.00098
    = money factor (interest) payment portion  $ 74.91
    Monthly depreciation payment  $440.77
    + money factor payment portion  $ 74.91
    = bottom-line monthly lease payment  $ 515.68
  • csaket_csaket_ Member Posts: 43
    After I asked the dealer to explain, he sent this screenshot.
    Not able to tally the calculation I did with what he shows.
    I am rolling in all the fee and taxes into the monthly payment as I did in the above message.
    Dealer gets $530.67 and I am getting $515.68 :worried:


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  • csaket_csaket_ Member Posts: 43
    edited September 2016
    Q1. the above 3 calculations, is the first one a true zero? meaning no first payment then 38 equal payments of $530.67?

    Q2. Is a 14.2% discount off MSRP a good discount for the QX60 ?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,012
    csaket_ said:

    Michaell said:

    csaket_ said:

    Is there a lease calculator that can get the same numbers?
    The ones online and on edmunds do not seem to get the same numbers.

    I built my own ...

    http://www.edmunds.com/car-leasing/calculate-your-own-lease-payment.html
    Using your calculator, I am getting $515.68 per month.


    Sticker Price of the car  $ 50,210.00
    Options -
    = MSRP  $ 50,210.00
    x residual value percentage   59.00%
    = Residual value  $ 29,623.90
    Sale Price  $ 47,339.00
    Incentives  $ 4,500.00
    Invoice price of car minus incentives  $ 42,839.00
    Adds after sales price  $ 245.00
    Net Capitalized Cost  $ 43,084.00
    Tax percentage   6.25%
    Taxes  $ 2,692.75
    Acquisition Fee  $ 700.00
    Doc Fee  $ 150.00
    Title & License & Registration Fee  $ 187.25
    Adjusted Cap Cost  $ 46,814.00
    - Residual  $ (29,623.90)
    = Depreciation over 39 months  $ 17,190.10
    Depreciation divided by term in months ÷ 39
    = Monthly depreciation payment  $ 440.77
    Adjusted capitalized cost  $ 46,814.00
    + Plus the residual  $ 29,623.90
    =  $ 76,437.90
    x Money Factor 0.00098
    = money factor (interest) payment portion  $ 74.91
    Monthly depreciation payment  $440.77
    + money factor payment portion  $ 74.91
    = bottom-line monthly lease payment  $ 515.68
    I get the same payment with those numbers. The screen shot from the dealer is missing a lot of details, so I can't reconcile their payment.

    Generally, the first payment is due at signing; often, the payments are shown as (lease term - 1) * payment amount

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  • Rivers00001Rivers00001 Member Posts: 4
    Hello, could you please share the MF and RV for a 36/12k lease on an AWD in the South Floriday area?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,012

    Hello, could you please share the MF and RV for a 36/12k lease on an AWD in the South Floriday area?

    .00087 and 59%. Same terms for 39/15, which will result in a slightly lower payment.

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  • mustang24fanmustang24fan Member Posts: 51
    Michaell said:

    csaket_ said:

    Michaell said:

    csaket_ said:

    Is there a lease calculator that can get the same numbers?
    The ones online and on edmunds do not seem to get the same numbers.

    I built my own ...

    http://www.edmunds.com/car-leasing/calculate-your-own-lease-payment.html
    Using your calculator, I am getting $515.68 per month.


    Sticker Price of the car  $ 50,210.00
    Options -
    = MSRP  $ 50,210.00
    x residual value percentage   59.00%
    = Residual value  $ 29,623.90
    Sale Price  $ 47,339.00
    Incentives  $ 4,500.00
    Invoice price of car minus incentives  $ 42,839.00
    Adds after sales price  $ 245.00
    Net Capitalized Cost  $ 43,084.00
    Tax percentage   6.25%
    Taxes  $ 2,692.75
    Acquisition Fee  $ 700.00
    Doc Fee  $ 150.00
    Title & License & Registration Fee  $ 187.25
    Adjusted Cap Cost  $ 46,814.00
    - Residual  $ (29,623.90)
    = Depreciation over 39 months  $ 17,190.10
    Depreciation divided by term in months ÷ 39
    = Monthly depreciation payment  $ 440.77
    Adjusted capitalized cost  $ 46,814.00
    + Plus the residual  $ 29,623.90
    =  $ 76,437.90
    x Money Factor 0.00098
    = money factor (interest) payment portion  $ 74.91
    Monthly depreciation payment  $440.77
    + money factor payment portion  $ 74.91
    = bottom-line monthly lease payment  $ 515.68
    I get the same payment with those numbers. The screen shot from the dealer is missing a lot of details, so I can't reconcile their payment.

    Generally, the first payment is due at signing; often, the payments are shown as (lease term - 1) * payment amount
    Sorry, but I have a question, and this might be regional, but why are you calculating the tax on the sales price and role them into the adjusted cap cost? Isn't one of the big ideas about leasing that you only pay tax on your monthly payments and not the entire purchase cost of the car? At least that's what I have done before (CA).

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,012

    Michaell said:

    csaket_ said:

    Michaell said:

    csaket_ said:

    Is there a lease calculator that can get the same numbers?
    The ones online and on edmunds do not seem to get the same numbers.

    I built my own ...

    http://www.edmunds.com/car-leasing/calculate-your-own-lease-payment.html
    Using your calculator, I am getting $515.68 per month.


    Sticker Price of the car  $ 50,210.00
    Options -
    = MSRP  $ 50,210.00
    x residual value percentage   59.00%
    = Residual value  $ 29,623.90
    Sale Price  $ 47,339.00
    Incentives  $ 4,500.00
    Invoice price of car minus incentives  $ 42,839.00
    Adds after sales price  $ 245.00
    Net Capitalized Cost  $ 43,084.00
    Tax percentage   6.25%
    Taxes  $ 2,692.75
    Acquisition Fee  $ 700.00
    Doc Fee  $ 150.00
    Title & License & Registration Fee  $ 187.25
    Adjusted Cap Cost  $ 46,814.00
    - Residual  $ (29,623.90)
    = Depreciation over 39 months  $ 17,190.10
    Depreciation divided by term in months ÷ 39
    = Monthly depreciation payment  $ 440.77
    Adjusted capitalized cost  $ 46,814.00
    + Plus the residual  $ 29,623.90
    =  $ 76,437.90
    x Money Factor 0.00098
    = money factor (interest) payment portion  $ 74.91
    Monthly depreciation payment  $440.77
    + money factor payment portion  $ 74.91
    = bottom-line monthly lease payment  $ 515.68
    I get the same payment with those numbers. The screen shot from the dealer is missing a lot of details, so I can't reconcile their payment.

    Generally, the first payment is due at signing; often, the payments are shown as (lease term - 1) * payment amount
    Sorry, but I have a question, and this might be regional, but why are you calculating the tax on the sales price and role them into the adjusted cap cost? Isn't one of the big ideas about leasing that you only pay tax on your monthly payments and not the entire purchase cost of the car? At least that's what I have done before (CA).

    Different states tax leases differently. There are three different methods:

    1. Tax the entire selling price of the car (GA, TX, VA are three states that do this - ouch!)
    2. Tax the sum of the payments and collect the money up front (NY, NJ, OH are examples)
    3. Tax the monthly payment (CA and CO are two states that do it that way)

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  • Rivers00001Rivers00001 Member Posts: 4
    Michaell said:

    Hello, could you please share the MF and RV for a 36/12k lease on an AWD in the South Floriday area?

    .00087 and 59%. Same terms for 39/15, which will result in a slightly lower payment.
    Thank you. Would the RV and MF differ if I went 39/10?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 236,760

    Michaell said:

    Hello, could you please share the MF and RV for a 36/12k lease on an AWD in the South Floriday area?

    .00087 and 59%. Same terms for 39/15, which will result in a slightly lower payment.
    Thank you. Would the RV and MF differ if I went 39/10?
    .00087 MF and 57% residual for 39/15
    Add 2% for 39/12 or 3% for 39/10.

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  • csaket_csaket_ Member Posts: 43
    arob1 said:

    I just leased a QX60 AWD with Premium, Premium Plus and Driver Assistance PKG. MSRP $52010, Selling Price: $45500 (~13% off MSRP). 0 down, only first payment of $471 and 8 MSD due at signing.. I am in Dallas, Texas. Monthly payment could have been lowered if did not have the pay tax on the entire sale price.

    Got the same deal thanks to you.
    My car also had dealer adds of $3K but they did not charge for those.

    Thank you to the mods as well for the helpful feedback
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,012
    csaket_ said:

    arob1 said:

    I just leased a QX60 AWD with Premium, Premium Plus and Driver Assistance PKG. MSRP $52010, Selling Price: $45500 (~13% off MSRP). 0 down, only first payment of $471 and 8 MSD due at signing.. I am in Dallas, Texas. Monthly payment could have been lowered if did not have the pay tax on the entire sale price.

    Got the same deal thanks to you.
    My car also had dealer adds of $3K but they did not charge for those.

    Thank you to the mods as well for the helpful feedback
    Congrats!

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  • tkman00tkman00 Member Posts: 26
    Hi, Could I get the MF/RV on a AWD Premium and AWD Premium Plus at 36/10 in 11576?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,012
    tkman00 said:

    Hi, Could I get the MF/RV on a AWD Premium and AWD Premium Plus at 36/10 in 11576?

    .00087 and 60%

    BTW, same numbers for 39/10, which will give you a slightly smaller payment.

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  • tkman00tkman00 Member Posts: 26
    Thank you
  • chris12920chris12920 Member Posts: 3
    Can someone please look over this lease for me and let me know if this is a good or bad lease? Thanks in advance for your time and help :)
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,012

    Can someone please look over this lease for me and let me know if this is a good or bad lease? Thanks in advance for your time and help :)

    Not enough information -

    What is the MSRP?
    How much is due at signing?
    RWD or AWD?

    Though, the taxes in Texas are a bit of a killer ....

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  • csaket_csaket_ Member Posts: 43
    looks like you can go 2 K lower assuming 50,145 MSRP.

    Some employers have a VPP discount with Nissan/Infiniti which can get you another 1-1.5K.

    Can someone please look over this lease for me and let me know if this is a good or bad lease? Thanks in advance for your time and help :)

  • chris12920chris12920 Member Posts: 3
    Michaell,

    The MRSP is $50,174

    Down payment is $690

    RWD

    Yes, taxes on lease vehicles in Texas are a killer.

  • chris12920chris12920 Member Posts: 3
    Sorry the MRSP is $50,145
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 236,760

    Sorry the MRSP is $50,145

    They are really jacking up the money factor, or you have less than top tier credit.
    Using the base MF of .00098, the monthly rent portion should be $77.58.
    Their number is $151.20!! That's .00191 MF to get that number.

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  • daddymaddydaddymaddy Member Posts: 25
    What is the MF and Residual for 39/12K.
    How many MSD's are allowed? What is the MF after MSD's?
    im in Ohio and planning to shop around MI,IN,PA and KY
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 236,760

    What is the MF and Residual for 39/12K.
    How many MSD's are allowed? What is the MF after MSD's?
    im in Ohio and planning to shop around MI,IN,PA and KY

    AWD?

    .00087 MF and 59% residual
    8 MSDs would take you down to .00007

    It's been five years, but I leased at Infiniti of Cincinnati, and had a good experience

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  • daddymaddydaddymaddy Member Posts: 25
    I have been quoted $469 for $52240 MSRP with 8 MSD down. Selling price $46716 tax $1276 @ 7.5% and document fee $233 and acc fees $700 cap red $7.44 and first payment $500. 39/12K. Can i pull the trigger
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,012

    I have been quoted $469 for $52240 MSRP with 8 MSD down. Selling price $46716 tax $1276 @ 7.5% and document fee $233 and acc fees $700 cap red $7.44 and first payment $500. 39/12K. Can i pull the trigger

    FWD or AWD?

    Are you paying all the taxes and fees up front or adding them to the selling price?

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  • daddymaddydaddymaddy Member Posts: 25
    AWD and rolling taxes into the monthly payments.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,012

    AWD and rolling taxes into the monthly payments.

    39/12 AWD - .00087 and 59%

    If I use $48,925 as the cap cost, I get $534/mo as the payment.

    Confirm the cap cost with the dealer.

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  • daddymaddydaddymaddy Member Posts: 25
    Yes im doing msd's and thats bring the mf to .00007
  • daddymaddydaddymaddy Member Posts: 25
    Do we have October's MF and RV on 2016 QX60 AWD?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 236,760

    Do we have October's MF and RV on 2016 QX60 AWD?

    Some time next week

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  • daddymaddydaddymaddy Member Posts: 25
    So the September values are carried till the new numbers are released?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 236,760

    So the September values are carried till the new numbers are released?

    No... the new numbers are released immediately. But, we aren't car dealers, so it takes us a little while to get them. Just received them today.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 236,760

    Do we have October's MF and RV on 2016 QX60 AWD?

    .00061 MF and 55% residual for 39/15.

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  • daddymaddydaddymaddy Member Posts: 25
    Wow i see the residual gone down. Is it 57% for 39/12?
  • mustang24fanmustang24fan Member Posts: 51
    Can I get the numbers for this please:

    15,000 miles/year 39 months
    QX60 FWD Premium, premium plus, deluxe technology, and theater package
    QX60 AWD Premium, premium plus, deluxe technology, and theater package

    Thank you
  • mustang24fanmustang24fan Member Posts: 51
    Follow up question. Infinity web page list the 2017 Model already!? Is it available yet, and if so, what are the numbers on the lease?
    AWD and FWD 15/39?
    Thanks
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,012

    Wow i see the residual gone down. Is it 57% for 39/12?

    Yes, that is correct. Residuals tend to fall as the year goes on.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,012

    Can I get the numbers for this please:

    15,000 miles/year 39 months
    QX60 FWD Premium, premium plus, deluxe technology, and theater package
    QX60 AWD Premium, premium plus, deluxe technology, and theater package

    Thank you

    FWD - .00064 and 54%
    AWD - .00062 and 55%

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,012

    Follow up question. Infinity web page list the 2017 Model already!? Is it available yet, and if so, what are the numbers on the lease?
    AWD and FWD 15/39?
    Thanks

    2017 discussion is here:

    http://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/43191/infiniti/qx60/2017-infiniti-qx60-lease-questions/p1?new=1

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  • daddymaddydaddymaddy Member Posts: 25
    I just Signed a lease on monday 2016 QX 60 with premium, premium +, DAP, Theater and Wheels package.
    MSRP $55090. 8 MSD's of $600 and $600 (1st payment and Other few) = $5400 driveoff and monthly $499 includes tax for 39/12K.
    Hope i did good. Selling price $49544 and MF .00007 after MSD's. $233 total fees and $700 Accq fees and Ohio tax 7.5%.
    With the october vlaues it seems like with same discount the price jumps $30 more with lower MF and Adjusted residual.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,012

    I just Signed a lease on monday 2016 QX 60 with premium, premium +, DAP, Theater and Wheels package.
    MSRP $55090. 8 MSD's of $600 and $600 (1st payment and Other few) = $5400 driveoff and monthly $499 includes tax for 39/12K.
    Hope i did good. Selling price $49544 and MF .00007 after MSD's. $233 total fees and $700 Accq fees and Ohio tax 7.5%.
    With the october vlaues it seems like with same discount the price jumps $30 more with lower MF and Adjusted residual.

    Congrats - looks like a solid deal.

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  • schand820schand820 Member Posts: 86
    what is the MF and residual for a 2016 QX60 AWD, 39 /12k.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,012
    schand820 said:

    what is the MF and residual for a 2016 QX60 AWD, 39 /12k.

    .00062 and 57%

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  • ramapabbramapabb Member Posts: 8
    Is this a good deal in Bay Area, CA? With 6 MSD.. Or can I do better.

    QX60 Premium and Premium Plus
    MSRP$50,310
    Sales Price $44,510
    Residual 58% $29,179.80
    Money Factor .0001
    Total out of pocket includes taxes, registrations, first payment and fee's including MSD's $3971.94
    Monthly $411 plus tax

    QX60 AWD with all Packages
    MSRP $59,060
    Sales Price $52,260
    Residual 58% $34,254.8
    Money Factor .00001
    Total out of pocket includes taxes, registrations, first payment and fee's including MSD's $4,397.58
    Monthly $480 plus tax

    *Includes VPP discounts
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,012
    ramapabb said:

    Is this a good deal in Bay Area, CA? With 6 MSD.. Or can I do better.

    QX60 Premium and Premium Plus
    MSRP$50,310
    Sales Price $44,510
    Residual 58% $29,179.80
    Money Factor .0001
    Total out of pocket includes taxes, registrations, first payment and fee's including MSD's $3971.94
    Monthly $411 plus tax

    QX60 AWD with all Packages
    MSRP $59,060
    Sales Price $52,260
    Residual 58% $34,254.8
    Money Factor .00001
    Total out of pocket includes taxes, registrations, first payment and fee's including MSD's $4,397.58
    Monthly $480 plus tax

    *Includes VPP discounts

    What lease term is this for?

    Should I assume the sales price is the cap cost?

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,012
    Michaell said:

    ramapabb said:

    Is this a good deal in Bay Area, CA? With 6 MSD.. Or can I do better.

    QX60 Premium and Premium Plus
    MSRP$50,310
    Sales Price $44,510
    Residual 58% $29,179.80
    Money Factor .0001
    Total out of pocket includes taxes, registrations, first payment and fee's including MSD's $3971.94
    Monthly $411 plus tax

    QX60 AWD with all Packages
    MSRP $59,060
    Sales Price $52,260
    Residual 58% $34,254.8
    Money Factor .00001
    Total out of pocket includes taxes, registrations, first payment and fee's including MSD's $4,397.58
    Monthly $480 plus tax

    *Includes VPP discounts

    What lease term is this for?

    Should I assume the sales price is the cap cost?
    One last question ... is the MF .00001 or .00010?

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  • tsflballtsflball Member Posts: 2
    Can I get the numbers for 2016 QX60 Premium Plus Package, Premium Package, Driver Assistance Package in FL. 39/10 Also any incentives?? Thanks Again!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,012
    tsflball said:

    Can I get the numbers for 2016 QX60 Premium Plus Package, Premium Package, Driver Assistance Package in FL. 39/10 Also any incentives?? Thanks Again!

    .00064 and 57%

    No information on Infiniti incentives.

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  • mustang24fanmustang24fan Member Posts: 51
    edited October 2016
    Since inventory is selling out fast, I might have to look at some other options. Could I get MF and Residula for
    2016 AWD Hyprid with HEV package and FWD Hybrid with HEV package?
    15k/39 months please.
    Thanks
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,012

    Since inventory is selling out fast, I might have to look at some other options. Could I get MF and Residula for
    2016 AWD Hyprid with HEV package and FWD Hybrid with HEV package?
    15k/39 months please.
    Thanks

    FWD .00011 and 50%
    AWD .00034 and 52%

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