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Subaru Crew - Meet The Members II

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  • miksmimiksmi Silver Spring, MDPosts: 1,246
    buy what you really really want, anything less and you will never be happy with it.

    Truer words have not been spoken. Amen, brother Pat.

    ..Mike

    ..Mike

  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    I agree, you can profess to the non-believers all you want, but in the end if they are happy with their car, then so be it.

    -mike
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Great. Now I have to wait until 2005 to get a 3-rowed Subie! Thanks a lot! ;-)

    -juice
  • bluesubiebluesubie Posts: 3,497
    My wife's cousin did the same and kind of regrets it. He leased a 99 Civic and found out it's not it's all it's cracked up to be.

    One day he pulls up into our driveway on a Sunday and asks me to look at his car because the battery light is on. He popped the hood and I discovered a all of the belts were shredded. The pulley was warped and started to wobble and caused the belts to shred. He spent the night at our house because he didn't want a dead battery on the NJ Turnpike.
    He'll be looking at an Impreza this spring. :-)

    -Dennis
  • c_hunterc_hunter Posts: 4,487
    Maybe I read Pat's post differently, but what it said to me was not to cut corners or make substitutions for what you REALLY want. Throughout my years as a poor grad student, I was constantly cutting corners to save a buck or two. Half the time, I ended up regretting purchase decisions down the road. Nowadays, I have learned (the hard way) to carefully evaluate purchases and not be such a tightwad. If I can't buy exactly what I want, I don't buy it at all. Nothing worse than getting stuck with a second rate product. Usually, it's well worth the extra dough to get exactly what you want. On expensive purchases, why bother unless it's exactly what you want?

    Craig
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    It's true - we ended up replacing a lot of the cheap furniture we bought right after we got married because we were house poor and in a hurry to furnish the place. In the long run we ended up spending more money to buy 2 sets of furniture.

    -juice
  • bluesubiebluesubie Posts: 3,497
    I found that out with a 95 Dodge Neon!

    -Dennis
  • hondafriekhondafriek Ottawa CanadaPosts: 2,924
    You hit the nail right on the head that is exactly what I meant.

    Ilearned the hard way do not settle for less than you really want, as an example why settle for a base outback when what you really wanted was a limited, and so on and so forth.

    if you cannot afford what you want new then either wait until you can, or buy as close to new as your budget allows.

    I guarantee you will be much happier with a used version of what you really want than a new version of what you don,t.

    Cheers Pat.
  • Have not been around for a while but the bad news is that i,m back.
    there is no good news

    cheers

    gus
  • fibber2fibber2 Mid Hudson Valley, NYPosts: 3,732
    Case in point: Beth wanted me to get a digital camera for years since she saw her cousin with a very early model (240x320 resolution). I said no way. If it couldn't come close to our Canon SLR, I wouldn't use it. I waited until this Spring, and finally let her buy me the Olympus 3040 (3+megpix, f1.8 3x zoom lens, etc.) for my birthday. It was $700, but worth every penney. The output comes very close to 200 ISO film, maybe better than the SLR with 400 ISO. I am thrilled, and use it constantly. Filled 2 CD's with images in less than a year.

    BTW, I will not be able to make the chat tonight. AOL on our home desktop PC leaves me at the doorway to the chat room, but the screen is always blank. And my Thinkpad is still acting crazy since my experience of trying to put AOL 7.0 on it two weeks ago. I have not been able to get to Edmunds at all for days on it.

    Have fun,

    Steve
  • armac13armac13 Posts: 1,129
    nice to see you back. Stick around.

    Ross
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,675
    Welcome back!:)

    We've had to rely on Graham for the Oz Subie perspective. Where have you been hiding?

    Bob
  • subaru_teamsubaru_team Posts: 1,676
    I'm trying to join the chat, but for some reason the laptop I'm using keeps telling me I can't connnec to the server! I thought borrowing a PC would help. Agggghhh! I'm going to try and disable the auto log on to see if I can get in.

    Patti
  • miksmimiksmi Silver Spring, MDPosts: 1,246
    Ya, where ya been?

    ..Mike

    ..Mike

  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Nice to hear from you Gus. Some folks had asked about you.

    I'm glad to report Patti was persistent and was able to get the job done, and joined the chat. Sort of the way she is for us the rest of the time. :-)

    -juice
  • I agree with everything others have mentioned re buying what you want the first time, and not settling -- especially with cars where you take such a financial hit on their worth.

    In June when I had to buy my car, I was looking at the Bean and the H4 AWP. Now clearly, I loved the Bean (what's not to love) but I had been driving the H4 for 5,000 miles and found that it broke in very nicely. I plan to keep this car to the point of having to pay someone to take it, so resale value in 4-5 years what not a concern -- purely which car I really wanted. My H4 now has 18,000 miles on it (yes, 13,000 in 7 months!) and I don't regret my decision for one second... and that's my lead foot talking!!! (I am thinking though of putting leather in...)

    Now... why someone would consider a Civic vs. a Forester I find puzzling. If this were my customer I would ask him whether he was settling for the Civic because he hated the CRV, and if he really wanted a sedan or SUV type vehicle. The value of a 2.5RS is tremendous- and there is always the combination of utility and sportiness in the TS Wagon.

    There is no way he can be disappointed with a Subaru, and if he buys a 2.5RS and decides to sell it after two years because he doesn't like it (or whatever) I'm sure he'll be impressed with how many of us, I mean people, will be lining up to buy a late model 2.5RS!

    My $0.02 worth. (I love the challenge of closing shoppers on a Subaru vs another brand!)

    Pete.
  • hondafriekhondafriek Ottawa CanadaPosts: 2,924
    Could not get in the chat last night so I gave up trying.

    Always feel like I am missing something when I can,t get in.

    Cheers Pat.
  • locke2clocke2c Posts: 5,038
    I have something to say about the 'buying what you really want' notion.

    What I really wanted in 1999 was an Impreza Turbo. They didn't exist over here yet, so I did something that helped bring the turbo impreza, I bought a 2.5RS. When the 2000 Legacy arrived and was some 250+ pounds heavier than the 1999, I knew that the next generation Impreza would also gain weight. (it's a shortened Legacy chassis with slight changes to the rear suspension.)

    So I continued to modify my 2.5RS. I really don't like the new Impreza's looks, although I could certainly live with a WRX wagon. It's an outstanding value.

    From all this I've learned that I'm never modifying a new car like this again. I have to reverse most of my changes if I want to sell or trade the car, and I still loose money. If I wanted to really go wild with an Impreza, it would be much smarter and cheaper to start with something older.

    A new car should be reliable and covered under warranty. To me it's tolerable to spend more on a powertrain than you did on the car itself (say WRX engine into a '95 Impreza L) but I can't recommend reshaping a new car into something is isn't.

    -Colin
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,675
    and I agree 100%.

    Bob
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Have to agree (hence my 2 XT6s @ $1000 each) hmmm WRX engine+Tranny in XT6 body... yum yum...

    -mike
  • jimmyp1jimmyp1 Posts: 640
    And, if memory serves, someone is marketing (through a thin veil, IMHO) a Euro Spec WRX engine (280 h.p.) as a "dune buggy" engine. Claims to have as little as 30-50k on the odometer. Yummy, indeed! :)Go bid!!!

    Jim
  • kenskens Posts: 5,869
    So, Colin, am I hearing "STi"? ;-)

    Ken
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    I'd probably get it :(

    -mike
  • locke2clocke2c Posts: 5,038
    Ken,

    I wouldn't rule anything out, I just know that in 1999 the truly fast cars I wanted I couldn't afford. (C5, Boxster S) There were things considerably faster than a 2.5RS but I didn't want: Eclipse GSX, Camaro, Integra Type R, etc.

    But there was nothing like a WRX or 350Z. ;)

    -Colin
  • hondafriekhondafriek Ottawa CanadaPosts: 2,924
    I agree with you entirely, you have warranty issues when you modify a new car, now it can be argued that that car maker has to prove that the modifications you made did indeed cause a failure.

    However we all know that in the real world any car maker will give you endless grief with a modified car.

    Then there is the resale aspect somebody comes to view the car and sees it modified, first thought in their minds is OH OH this car has been thrashed within an inch of its life.

    I did not start to modify my 89 Accord until the warranty had expired, for the above mentioned reasons, I also did not have any trouble selling it as it went to my daughter, although to be honest I had a lineup of people wanting to buy this particular car.

    Cheers Pat.
  • locke2clocke2c Posts: 5,038
    and it's not at all that I can't or won't do the work myself, because I can and have.

    it's that I can't believe that I'm doing this work on a *new car*. when you have a 25 year old musclecar, you expect to buy new parts and fix things. if you have a project car that you're swapping a more powerful engine into, you expect to do a lot of work.

    but once you start modifying that new car it looses some qualities of a new car that are kind of nice to have.

    -Colin
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Sorry you missed the (very active) chat, Pat.

    So Colin, did I just get your blessing to spend more than $7800 in mods on my Miata? Could you explain that to my wife? ;-)

    I just saw "In the Bedroom", and guess who earns an Oscar for Best Supporting Actress? Sandy!

    Well, sort of. A 1998-2000 Acadia Green Metallic Forester L actually plays a major role, with an entire scene spent talking about the car specifically! Friends of the parents are having dinner with them, and the woman says she worked for Mary Kay cosmetics long enough to buy herself a "Jeep", which the husband calls an SUV. They go into a little chat about acronyms, and mention it has 4WD [AWD, but close enough]. In the next scene, both couples drive off in the Forester, an L model with alloys and a push bar.

    In that scene, Sissy Spacek is leaning against the window in angst for her recent loss, and my wife is thinking "poor woman". Meanwhile, I'm thinking, "hey, her window has an OK Subaru sticker too"!

    Hilarious. They really portrayed it positively, like she was proud to own it. And guess what? Two real adults were sitting in the back seat! :o)

    -juice
  • armac13armac13 Posts: 1,129
    "Two real adults were sitting in the back seat! :o)"

    Aren't special effects in movies great these days?

    Ross
  • lucien2lucien2 Posts: 2,984
    Happy Australia Day!!
  • lucien2lucien2 Posts: 2,984
    Great debate, I must say. Just as I was ready to fork over the cash for an exhaust, Colin has to come along and throw water on the idea! :-)

    On a related note. does anyone know if the '99 Legacy ej25 Mk I has the Phase II block or the notorious Mk I piston-skirt slap block? The GT has 40K on it, and yesterday I heard something funny for the first 10 seconds of idle.... :-o
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