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Subaru Crew - Meet The Members II



  • rangerron7rangerron7 Posts: 317
    "You veel beleev in das SUV, Herr Juice!"

    Ha Ha!
  • jeijei Posts: 143
    means? A rally team?

  • kenskens Posts: 5,869
    The Cayenne shows just how attractive the SUV market is to auto manufacturers. Even a sports car company like Porsche can't resist getting a piece of the action.

  • storytellerstoryteller Posts: 476
    I posted something on a Mazda site about Subarus having won "industry awards," such as the CU "Best Buy" award for Forester. Someone has challenged me for a listing. The Subaru site has a partial listing, and I keep coming up with repetitive information about WRX. Can you direct me to anything that would be more comprehensive?
  • hypovhypov Posts: 3,068
    Justy - "MotorWeek" TV-Driver's Choice Award, "Best Bargain Car"
    Legacy - Federation International de l'Automobile World Land Speed Endurance Record

    Legacy sets two world and 13 international endurance and speed records

    Legacy - Home Mechanix "Easy Maintenance Car of the Year"

    Subaru SVX - Popular Science "Best of What's New"

    Subaru SVX - Automotive Industries "Car of the Year: Annual Engineering Award"

    Subaru SVX - Automobile Magazine "1992 All Stars"

    Outback - Popular Science Magazine "Best of What's New"

    Impreza - J. D. Powers & Associates "Best Compact Car"

    Outback - MotorWeek TV "Driver's Choice Award"

    Forester - Consumers Digest Magazine "Best Buy"

    Forester - AAA 1998 Top Car Awards Outback - Motorweek TV "Driver's Choice Award"

    Forester - New England Motor Press Assn. "Best in Class"

    Legacy - Kiplinger's Magazine "Best New Car"

    Forester - Consumers Digest "Best Buy"

    Legacy top performer in IIHS crash tests

    Outback takes First Place, Seat of the Pants Class, 2000 Alcan Rally

    Outback - Northwest Automotive Press Assn. "Best in Class"

    Forester - Consumers Digest "Best Buy" third consecutive year

    The 2002 Impreza WRX voted “Most Fun to Drive” by Auto Week Magazine.

    Sport Compact Car Magazine names the Impreza WRX one of the Eight Great Rides of 2001.

    Subaru of America, Inc. receives the “Consumers Voice Award” from

  • locke2clocke2c Posts: 5,038

    you know what's odd?

    in 2000 a Subaru Impreza 2.5RS WON the Alcon 5000 outright! Paul Eklund of was one of the drivers.

    But since they beat the factory Outback H6 effort, of course the Outback gets the footnote in (subaru's own) history.

  • kenskens Posts: 5,869
    Don't to forget this one too:

    On October 30, 1996, the Forester won the renowned Hulman Trophy* for setting a new world record with an average speed of 180.082 km/h in the 24-hour challenge at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway.

  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,652
    Whether Porsche should be building an SUV, or not is not the point. The point is Porsche made a gutty call by deciding to do build an SUV, just as Chrysler did with the PT Cruiser, Prowler and Viper. Being "predictable" and "safe" is what Chevy does, not Subaru (or at least I hope not).

    As to whether the Porsche SUV will be a success; I wouldn't bet against it... Their product planners know what they're doing. And, judging by their teaser ads, I suspect it will be more than capable off-road. In fact, I'm sure Porsche will off-road race it, just to prove its capabilities.

  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Hmm, see 90% of the US off-roading isn't RACING, has nothing to do with racing, and racing one doesn't prove anything, at least for the US off-road market. Same reason that the Pajero (montero) wins Paris-Dakkar, they are made for those type of events where there are pseudo roads, here people do rock crawling and stuff like that. But we'll see when it comes out, I'm sure it will be a hit @ the Country Clubs and wedding banquets of the rich people.

  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,652
    Just looking over these new brochures I've noticed:

    • Outback H-6 has the same wood/leather steering wheel as ours, but with the MOMO logo in the center, like the WRX.

    • Outback H-6 has a thin chrome ring around the instruments. It looks real classy.

    • Outback H-6 has a different front bumper from ours.

    • Outback H-6 still has the old pop-out-of-the-dash cupholder.

    • Outback H-6 has blackwall tires. Why can't we get those here?

    • Outback H-6 has a self-leveling rear suspension.

    • Outback H-6 has 215/60x16 tires.

    • Outback H-6 has a full-size spare tire.

    • Legacy 2.5 GX has 205/50x16 tires (not 55 section).

    • Legacy 2.5 GX has wheels that look like the ones found on our Outback Sport. They look great!

    • Forester has headlight washers.

    • Forester turbo has a blacked out mesh grille, and it looks great!

    • Forester (not turbo) has a dual-range 5-speed tranny (we already knew that).

    • Forester turbo has chrome rims around the instruments, like the H-6 Outback.

    • Forester has two fold-down, seat-mounted, front armrests.

    • Forester has self-leveling rear suspension.

    • Forester, Impreza (except WRX), and Legacy have hill-holder clutches.

    • WRX has 17" tires
  • hypovhypov Posts: 3,068
    locke2c Mar 4, 2002 4:27pm

    Marketing decision I bet. But what's so bad with "1st place goes to the RS and Outback takes second"?

    I thought the H6 debut in 2001?
    Oh wait, we get MY2001 in 2000...[brain fart] :D

  • fibber2fibber2 Mid Hudson Valley, NYPosts: 3,729
    how do you guys manage to find the time to keep up this kind of dialog during the work day? I'm struggling to keep up!

    The arguments have been thought provoking and compelling. And just maybe I am softening my stand against the 'box' a bit, but not yet ready to give in. It is fundamentally a decent idea, but I cannot help but see the 'dark side' of potential abuse. One mile over the limit is breaking the law, and that could be the 'wiggle room' for your insurance company to invalidate your coverage.

    A couple of thoughts on some constitutional issues raised during the weekend. Forgive me if I don't have this exact, for it has been a long time since school. Where is a copy of that old parchment when you need it???

    Our forefathers were very insightful about the need for governmental expansion, and included something known as the 'elastic clause'. Championed by the Federalists, it allows the offices of government to expand to accommodate technological advances and other challenges. Without it, constitutional amendments would be needed to create departments like NTSB, NHTSC, EPA, DOT, etc. State constitutions have similar provisions. And hence, driving became a privilege granted by our government. Essentially an usurpation of power(?). After all, before 1905 (or so), you didn't need govt approval to pilot your horse & buggy, or that early motorized beast?

    But arguing the other side was Jefferson and the Republican-Democrats. In the name of non-intrusive govt, they inserted a clause saying (paraphrased) that any power not specifically granted to the govt remained the province of the populace. That provides the protection of day-to-day personal mobility. So while the govt regulates the equipment on your automobile and 'how' you drive, 'where' you go should remain personal and private. I would think then that using your car to track your whereabouts without a court order should be a protected right of privacy.

    But I am also willing to bet that I am a far better engineer than a constitutional lawyer!! Go ahead - throw some stones thru this argument... ;-)

  • tincup47tincup47 Posts: 1,508
    I don't think so, the gutty call is to avoid the "me too" mentality. Especially when VW is going to be selling a version of the same vehicle, the Tuareg. BMW and Mercedes already made sedans and station wagons, Mercedes has been making G-Wagens since 1924, along with trucks so it wasn't as large a stretch for them to make an SUV. Porsche has always been sports cars, same as Ferrari. I agree with paisan, this will not be an off road vehicle. The PT Cruiser, Viper, Prowler were concept car hits that filled new niches, or made bold statements about Chrysler styling and engineering. The Porsche SUV is an X5 copycat, and is at least 2 years too late to the market. I for one will not look at Porsche the same as I have done in the past, and I know plenty of others that feel the same.
  • tincup47tincup47 Posts: 1,508
    The 10th Amendment gave the power not granted to the federal Goverment to the State Governments, not the populace per se. That is why your State Govt. sets the rules by which you get the privelege to drive.
  • subaru_teamsubaru_team Posts: 1,676
    If you go to, check out the Baja microsite. There is a game there called the Baja Quest with some pretty decent prizes. It's pretty self explanatory, but I wanted to make sure you all check it out. I'd love to see someone for the Edmunds crew win!

  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Ok this morning I was watching the news, and saw a commercial for a Hondah Civic with 4 kids in it. They are listening to the radio munching on food etc, when the 4th kid gets in he says "Where are we going?" The other 3 kids turn silent and look at him like he is nutz and the music stops. Then one of the other kids turns to the others and says "Where are we going?!? Duh!" and the camera pans back and they are just sitting in the parked car.

    I think Subaru needs to counter that with 4 kids getting into the WRX with Auto-x Helmets and asking "where are we going?" with an answer of "the track or racing school" or something along those lines!

  • subaru_teamsubaru_team Posts: 1,676
    I can't figure out that commercial. It doesn't seem to make you want to check out how the car performs. I guess it's directed to folks who care about looks alone. Ahhhh - youth!

  • subaru_teamsubaru_team Posts: 1,676
    for the test today (boy/girl) are you going to share with us or do we have to wait until the big day comes? If you tell us now, we can all "help" with your name choices! I'm sure you would welcome the assistance ;~}

  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Boy R!cers!


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