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Mazda 626 Troubles

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  • overtonoverton Posts: 3
    Stephanie,

    In response to your valve lasher problem, it is typical. My V-6 ticked like crazy especially when very cold in the morning. My trusty mechanic told me to do the synthetic oil deal, and go with 5-W30 oil, and also cleaning. This helped a great deal, but did not cure the problem. But it is a much more inexpensive alternative. A car of that age you must just live with some things rather than spend a ton of money. You can make the call. Just curious how many miles are on your car? Mine started ticking around 50K and is still doing the same at 94,000. But I don't plan on keeping it forever.
  • ddfddf Posts: 1
    I am dealing with dumping my 94 626 which is sitting in a tranny shop right now. I have been told to expect about 2000.00 repair bill to rebuild the tranny. I have replaced my struts, my o2 sensor twice, and numerous other things to tiring to list. I do not believe I should put any more money into this car and with 60000 miles I am faced with dumping my 5 year old car! Anyone interrested in a class action suit here?
  • levi8levi8 Posts: 1
    I am so glad to have found this place and so glad to know I am not the only one with the mazda problems. I have had 3 mazdas now and I love them but they all have had their own little quirks. My most resent problem is Idling and loss of power. My engine light has been coming on and shuts off itself. I am 3 hours away from the mazda dealer and The mechanics I've been to all have a different story. I have not replaced the timming belt or any of the spark plugs or wires yet. the car is a 626 v6 with 113,000. IT s a 94. does anyone have any suggestions for me.
  • sokwesasokwesa Posts: 2
    One of my cylinders was misfiring so I changed my spark plugs and plug wires. The car is driving better, but it is idling low (between 500 750 RPMs). Does anyone have any idea of why this is? Could it be my fuel njection system?
  • jtuckjtuck Posts: 1
    Where should I start... I have 1996 Mazda 626 LX with about 70,000 miles on it. I've loved my car since the day I bought it but it's been tough. I'm tired of the huge repair bills and the arguments with my extended warranty company. I'm considering selling it and coming to terms with the huge mistake I made when I bought it. I should have bought a Honda like everyone suggested.

    I've been through the normal wear and tear maintenance that all car owners deal with but I've suffered through more than your simple oil change and brake work. Less than a year ago I heard a clicking noise from my engine and ended up spending $1000 having all the valve lifters replaced. Around that time I also noticed an engine light. I had the car checked out and was told it was an 'atmospheric change' that caused it to come on. The second time it happened the mechanic claimed it was some sort of sensor problem. I haven't seen the light since but the fear is still there. I've also been experiencing idle problems. My car runs rough and... to make a long story short... several repairs later and I'm stuck with bad transmission fluid (no one will change it without replacing the whole transmission), horrible shaking at stop lights, and bad rear struts. I've just been told that I owe another $710 for "normal wear and tear" maintenance and I'm sick about it. Anyone want a used 626?

    Do these problems seem normal - am I living in lala land thinking that car ownership should be less aggravating?
  • anu0anu0 Posts: 13
    If anyone knows of a class action lawsuit against Mazda for the automatic transmission failures in the 94 626 and later model years please let me know.

    I'm paying off a $2200 transmission replacment bill on my Master Card.
  • robpurobpu Posts: 1
    My family has owned a total of 5 Mazda's over the years and I currently have a 95' Mazda 626ES V-6 manual...I have never spent more money on maintaining a car since I got this one. I just want to reinforce the problems that occur with the Valve Cover Gaskets. Please have these looked at and changed. I've replaced my sparkplugs, wires, and gaskets 2 times in the last 15,000 miles..This is a definite problem with the V-6. I've also had to buy two new back calipers for my car, 02 sensors (pretty penny), (2) CV Joints because rubber boot wasn't sealed properly (more pretty pennies), and a Max Air Flow sensor (luckily I convinced Mazda to pay for this one, approx. $1000). Not to mention all the normal maintenance issues that come up. Anybody looking at getting a Mazda..please get an extended warranty up to 100,000 miles..I know I will next time.
  • lglaneylglaney Posts: 1
    I'm curious about those of you who think something can be done -- a suit or repurchase by Mazda -- about the transmission problems.

    I just got a quote today for $2,334.96 to replace the trans on my '98 626 LX (automatic, of course). The dealership says it burned out on the inside. It now has 66,000 miles (yes, I drive a lot -- and NEED my car!)

    Particularly frustrating is that at about 24,000, two of my plug wires were completely burned out. I got those replaced under warranty, but no one could figure out why it happened. Shortly thereafter, my blower motor went out -- no wipers, defrost, anything, in the middle of a snowstorm. In my opinion, none of this should have happened/be happening at the mileages I'm talking about. I bought another Mazda because my first -- a '91 Protege DX, 5 sp -- was SO reliable. It took a semi-truck to kill it at 153,000.

    Right now I'm looking for another car, and I don't think it can be a Mazda. I can't find a Protege manual transmission. This is the first AT I've had in over 20 years -- I got tired of popping my knee at 40 yo! -- and I don't think I'll have another one of those, either.

    Can anybody recommend a good, very reliable car, that's within the Protege price range? I can't afford to stay in the 626 class because this has me taking on more debt than I can handle right now. And why or how do folks think this can be put back on Mazda?

    Any ideas appreciated. Thanks
  • pat455pat455 Posts: 603
    Have you checked out edmunds.com homepage? You can access it from this page via the icon in the top left corner. You will find links to all kinds of buying advice and car reviews. Then you may want to check out our Smart Shopper conference and some of our other conferences (for example, Sedans) to find ongoing discussions of vehicles that catch your interest.

    If you have any specific maintenance or repair issues on your current vehicle or a new one, then come on back here and talk to us about it.

    Good luck!

    Pat
    Community Leader/Maintenance & Repair Conference
  • I'm thinking of buying 88-92 626 5spd....
    There is one I'm going to see this weekend. 1991 Mazda 626LX, 4DR, HB, 5spd. The car has 206K (km), but the engine has been replaced 2 months ago with "low km" engine as per owner. He could not explain why the original engine died... He claims that "new" engine has had only 40K on it and it came from salvaged car. He is asking $3995 CAN for it, but might let it go for $3.5K
    I would appreciate any advice on the above. I've read some horror stories about Mazda's AT at http://www.alvant.alva.ok.us/dan/fan.htm but that should not be relevant to this one should it?

    Thanks,

    Andrew.
  • windowphobe6windowphobe6 Posts: 765
    In the two years I've been watching 626 owner stories, I can't remember but one or two grumblings about the 5-speed - and those tended to be more about notchiness than fragility.
  • windowphobe6windowphobe6 Posts: 765
    If you peek at Consumer Reports' charts for the last fifteen years or so, you see a peak in the late Eighties, a slow descent through about '93, then a trench. In '97 or so, things start to improve, and nowadays CU reckons the 626 to be, once again, "better than average". I remain a big fan of the fourth-generation 626 ('93 through '97), but its exemplary road manners and sensible interior design (cupholders aside) don't impress quite so much when the car's in the shop. And I'll probably buy a new 626 when it's time to replace my '93 - if I don't get seduced into a Tribute first.
  • pat455pat455 Posts: 603
    Hi Susan,

    Have you been to our Sedans conference and taken a look at this topic:

    Mazda 626 - Part 2 (Topic #2993)?

    That would be a good place to find out more about what folks around here think of the current model of this vehicle.

    Don't lose sight of the fact that this is the Maintenance and Repair conference, so you are more likely to read about problems here than the lack of 'em!

    Good luck.

    Pat
    Community Leader/Maintenance & Repair Conference
  • aptisaptis Posts: 1
    I have the following concerns with this vehicle:
    1) Park the car for a few hours. Then start the car and move it a few feet and shut off the engine. Leave overnight. The next morning, when you start the car, there is a loud rattling noise in the engine (as if there is no oil in the engine) that lasts anywhere from 5 seconds to 30 seconds. The dealer tells me this is normal. What is your opinion?
    2) The brake rotors are warped. The car still has 100 miles left on the warranty. The dealer tells me that warped rotors are not covered under warranty. Is this correct?

    FYI: I already had the automatic transmission replaced under warranty last week.
  • windowphobe6windowphobe6 Posts: 765
    What you're hearing from the valvetrain is a couple dozen lash adjusters waiting to get their oil supply. This being a DOHC engine, they're located way high, and all the oil circulated away from them last night when you did that little move-it-five-feet trick. I wouldn't worry unless it gets way beyond 30 seconds; in the meantime, consider doing your oil changes with Mazda's OEM filter, which is designed to reduce this particular phenomenon.

    Rotors generally are a normal-wear item; I wouldn't expect them to be covered by the warranty.

    Now what happened to the tranny?
  • robaltimarobaltima Posts: 7
    I have a 99 lx V6 with 15,000 miles and have been reading alot about the value lash adjusters. Is there in preventive maint. to help stop the problem. (ie use the mazda oem oil filter, etc). I am pretty good at changing oil every 3,000 miles and general maintence.
  • windowphobe6windowphobe6 Posts: 765
    Keeping them bathed in nice clean oil is the best thing you can do for them - it wards off sludge deposits and other nasty stuff.
  • mcdcmcdc Posts: 6
    The 626/Probe automatic problems come from over heating, some internal parts are brass and they get torn apart when the transmision overheats. I just installed a Heavy duty transmission oil cooler on my girlfriends '96 626, the problem is, the stock cooler doesn't work as well as it should(it is located inside the radiator, thus "storing" heat from the radiator). In the Probe community that is 1 of the more popular things to do, people notice smoother shifts when doing that. Also have the transmission regulary serviced with new fluid put in, also have Synthetics put in it, that will reduce breakdown and heat. And finally I have heard from 3 sources that the 626 doesn't have a filter, so I am going to get a remote mount oil filter kit and Install it inline with the cooler. these 2 parts ($30 cooler, $50 oil kit) plus the fluid change $100 comes to about $280 anf should add life to the transmission and it's cheaper than $1500. Also there are some aftermarket high performance rebuild kits for the trans. My advice is don't go to the dealer, go to a transmission specialists like AMCCO(I hear they install heavy duty rebuild kits).

    As far as the Valve cover gaskets, they are not that difficult to replace, I did mine on my '95 Probe GT(same engine as the 626) in about 6 hours, but I also cleaned the intake and throttle body, and installed phenolic spacers http://home.san.rr.com/scmorgan/spacers.
  • jwalker3jwalker3 Posts: 8
    I am amazed at the number of people who are having transmission issues with the Mazda 626's. I feel compelled to tell my story. Last June my husband and I purchased a used 96 Mazda 626, it had about 47,000 miles on it. We were excited and really loved it until 7 days later the service engine soon light came on. We brought it in to get it checked out (and we live about 1 hr. 20 mins. from the dealership). They informed us that the cad. converter needed to be replaced. Needless to say we were shocked, thank God it was covered under the warranty. Anyway, after having that replaced, about 2 weeks later the overdrive light came on. Again we brought the car back for servicing, they couldn't find anything wrong and the light went off. About a week later we were out in our new car when the light went off again. My husband checked the trans. fluid and it didn't even register on the stick. We brought the car in again (at this time I was heavily researching the lemon law in our state) and they said one of the hoses was loose, causing the leak. We went home, planned our vacation to drive to Florida, and wouldn't you know it, just after crossing our state line the overdrive light came on again. Our trip was cancelled, and after 2 more trips back to the dealership where first they determined the computer needed to be replaced, didn't solve the issue, they decided the transmission needed to be replaced. Our car has been running great since but what an experience. I am starting to look around for a new car for myself, have been thinking of a Mazda because, we do love the car and believe alot of our running back and forth to the dealer had to do with some carelessness on the repair person. However, I must say after reading all the posting, I'm not so sure.
    I do have another comment, I noticed that several people made comments that the transmission was a Ford and somehow that may be part of the reason for the Mazda troubles. My current car is a 1992 Ford Tempo, it has 167,000 miles and I have had no transmission problems, knock on wood!
  • windowphobe6windowphobe6 Posts: 765
    The CD4E (used in the four-cylinder Probe/626/MX-6 since '94) does, in fact, have a filter of sorts, but it's not accessible by dropping the bottom pan, mostly because there is no bottom pan. There's a side cover over the valve bodies, and that's it. Needless to say, this discourages the traditional method of transmission service, since getting at the filter requires major disassembly.

    Mazda has been remiss, I think, in not recommending regular fluid changes for its automatics. In the manual for my '93 LX, while there are references to how to read the dipstick and such, there is no indication whatever that changing the fluid might be something one ought to do.

    And heat is definitely a Bad Thing for automatics generally, so installing an auxiliary cooler makes sense.
  • As far as I know, since Mazda installs the keyless entry system themselves, you need to get the remotes from the dealer, and the dealer also has to program the remotes for you. I have keyless entry on a 97 626 LX-V6, and my trunk has an emblem that says 'keyless entry' instead of having an actual keyhole. That's one place you can look.

    If you do have the keyless system, can you find out why you didn't get any remotes? And make sure that Mazda deletes the codes for the old remotes from your system - otherwise there's someone out there with a remote that works on your car!

    Hope this was helpful - Gregg
  • matriamatria Posts: 1
    I have a '94 Mazda LX4 with 133K miles. I had the transmission replaced last summer when it had 126k or so miles. The 'new' one went out at Christmas time and it was replaced by the dealership with no problem. I have had to put an O2 sensor on the car last month, but all in all I have been pleased with the Mazda. So much so, that I am considering a 2000 at this time. My question is- do the V6 have the same problem that my 4 had with the transmission? Should I be considering the V6 because it has not had the problems of the 4? Also, I am looking at the Millenia. I have been quoted great prices on all three models I have mentioned (ES4, ES6, and the Millenia). I am greatful there is a forum I can turn to for advise. I do not want to offend other females, but I honestly do not know much about cars. Thanks.
  • windowphobe6windowphobe6 Posts: 765
    626 (four-cylinder) - '87-'93 - Mazda G4A-EL
    626 (four-cylinder) - '94-up - Ford CD4E
    626 (V6) - all - Mazda G4A-EL
    Millenia (base) - Mazda G4A-EL
    Millenia S - Jatco JF403E (Nissan RE4F04A)

    The current (F) version of the G4A-EL appeared first in '93.

    The peak years for CD4E problems were '94 through '97. (Ford redesigned the pump plate and gasket in late 1996, and the coast/forward clutch assembly in early 1998, addressing two major problem areas.)
  • kappskapps Posts: 2
    Mazda 626 LX

    Has anyone changed from 14" wheels to 15" wheels?

    The 15" alloy wheels are available and the 14"
    alloys are not.

    gary
  • pvu1pvu1 Posts: 2
    I have a 1996 madza 626 LX. My transmission has already gone out in it. I have only 85K miles on it. I have talked to several different previous Madza 626 owners and there is a history of transmission problems with there product. I believe they make transmissions for probes and there is a history problem there also.
  • pvu1pvu1 Posts: 2
    My advice to you is to steer clear of Madza until they provide a better product. There is an obvious history of transmission troubles.
  • robaltimarobaltima Posts: 7
    I have a 1999 LX V6. I have put 16,000 miles on and so far so good. From my understanding, there is a problem with the tranny on the 4 cycl. It is made by ford and not very reliable on the 93-98 models. The V6 tranny and engine is made by mazda and I have not seen too many people having trouble with it. I have the auto and am happy with it. Of course the 5 speed for either engine is good.
  • steinb1steinb1 Posts: 1
    My neighbor has a 1998 Mazda 626 with 50k miles for sale for about $9k and I have a 1991 Toyota Camry that has 105k miles that I bought used in 1995 for $10k. It has been a great, dependable car with only repairs due to wear & tear -- and not much of that.

    I thought I'd do some browsing to see what owners have to say about the Mazda, and it sounds like the transmissions haven't been very dependable.

    My son has a Ford that has lived up to its initials Fix Or Repair Daily and if the Mazda has a Ford transmission, I'd avoid it like the plague.

    I appreciate greatly the candor and honesty of those who have made entries on this message board.

    I think I'll stick to Toyotas.
  • robaltimarobaltima Posts: 7
    I just got off the phone with our local Mazda Dealer. I have a 99 LX V6 and was asking about tranny oil change. The service department said they recommended not changing the oil - - ever. I asked them about the problems they have had with the 4 cyc. and she said there was a problem with the 94-97 4 cyc tranny. However, she said they have rarely had a problem with the 6 cyc tranny and that it was "gold" and I am quoting. I have a decent amount of respect for this dealership but, has anyone else heard this. I know the owners man. does not talk about an tranny oil change.
  • crissy26crissy26 Posts: 2
    I have a 97 Mazda 626 LX. I just bought an extra keyless entry remote off ebay for cheap and need to know how to reprogram it. Does anyone know how this is done? It's different on different cars. Do I turn the ignition key X amount of times in x amt of seconds? Any help would be great!
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